Dual boot Vista Vista

[zampoo]

In some applications (sonar6 +plugins) my notebook seems to run out of
processing power. I have a Packard Bell with 2GB and T5500 processor and
Vista Home premium. I do not have an installation disk. My question is; if I
make a new partition on my harddisk can I install Vista again on that
partition with a repair disk and if I run it with minimal services would it
help?
Or can I define Vista services per useraccount?
Would a 64 bit version of Vista enhance my processing power?

 

[fridau]

you need 2 licenses.. or in other words to buy vista twice to do that..
since as always you are allowed to use windows only ONCE on your machine.

If you ask ANY professional Musician that is using sonar he will tell you
that Vista is a HORRIBLE
platform. It has so many problems with the new sound layer that its has
driven them nuts...

They are avoiding vista like the plauge and for good reason. Its a monster.

I suggest you dual boot with XP, but to install XP after vista you need to
do some tricks...

I will repeat this. if you want to do serious work, DITCH VISTA

 

[AlexB]

Do not listen to this crook. He urges people to ditch Vista because he runs
a virus making business. He wants people to stick to their XPs so he can
continue to poach people's computers.

Vista has expanded capabilities as far as the sound control goes, plus you
can use any utilities in an old XP mode if you so desire but that will be
stupid.

 

[AlexB]

It is a bunch of interesting questions.

What you can do is to try to close some of the routine services that start
at startup. There is a concept of vLite, that is Vista with some services
turned off. MS does not recommend to do it but they actually mean that when
those services are turned off they cannot guarantee if the upgrades would do
normal job. Thus you can bypass that by restarting those services manually
when you do your upgrades.

Yes, I think you can define user services per user account.

Your design to have another partition seems cumbersome and not workable.
First MS will balk at your using this disk again with the same product key.
Secondly I do not know how large is you HDD. You may limit yourselves
significantly with partitioning. Running two OS is not easy on one computer.

I have a few machines with two or three OS I installed while trying to
choose what the best setup was but I regularly use only one OS and when I go
to the second one it is always a lot of trouble. I sometimes have to wait
until all upgrades are downloaded and installed with the machine restarted
because I did it last time months ago. Forget it. It is not practical.

 

[jxzkzwdlq]

Do not listen to this crook.
I think you must be a troll! He is 100% correct, you cannot install Vista
twice on the same PC without 2 licenses. Its always been that way with all
versions of windows.

Also what he said about Sonar is correct, as well as lots of other music
programs.
If you go to forums with musicians you will see what they say, XP is better
still especially with midi, many Yamaha cards and other hardware do not work
with vista.. and these
hardware are not cheap

 

[jxzkzwdlq]

you cannot install Vista twice on the same PC without 2 licenses. Its always
been that way with all
versions of windows. This applies also to virtual machines with some
exceptions made.
Only two retail version of Windows Vista are licensed for use as a guest OS
in a VM: Windows Vista Business and Ultimate

With Windows, unless you have a volume license pack, you're only allowed to
have one installation on a single computer. Multiple installations using the
same product key without a volume license is considered piracy and is
usually prevented. (When you register, your computer's hardware is logged so
it's only licensed for that machine and cannot be registered on any other.)

Here's a excerpt from the Windows XP EULA:
"1. GRANT OF LICENSE.
Microsoft grants you the following rights provided that you comply with all
terms and conditions of this EULA:
1.1 Installation and use. You may install, use, access, display and run one
copy of the Software on a single computer, such as a workstation, terminal
or other device ("Workstation Computer"). The Software may not be used by
more than two (2) processors at any one time on any single Workstation
Computer.

1.2 Mandatory Activation. The license rights granted under this EULA are
limited to the first thirty (30) days after you first install the Software
unless you supply information required to activate your licensed copy in the
manner described during the setup sequence of the Software. You can activate
the Software through the use of the Internet or telephone; toll charges may
apply. You may also need to reactivate the Software if you modify your
computer hardware or alter the Software. There are technological measures in
this Software that are designed to prevent unlicensed use of the Software.
Microsoft will use those measures to confirm you have a legally licensed
copy of the Software. If you are not using a licensed copy of the Software,
you are not allowed to install the Software or future Software updates.
Microsoft will not collect any personally identifiable information from your
Workstation Computer during this process."

 

[AlexB]

That's precisely what I said in my next post, you are a troll.

I reacted to his statement that the OP should ditch Vista. It is a campaign
against Vista.

All the problems with Vista sound can be resolved easily by people who
understand what they are doing. Apparently you don't.

He has a CPU performance problem. It saturates to 100% and gives him
nonlinear harmonics. He does not have the range or throughput. It can easily
be corrected even with better hardware.

You are an idiot.

 

[AlexB]

With Windows, unless you have a volume license pack, you're only allowed to

have one installation on a single computer. Multiple installations using
the same product key without a volume license is considered piracy and is
usually prevented.

You are an idiot.

I have an MSDN Pro subscription that allows me to download and install any
OS (Vista of any hue, XP, WinSer2003, WinSer2008, etc, etc, etc, any
DevStudios, SPs, SDKs, etc. etc etc.) on multiple computers as long as it is
for my private office or home and not for sale.

You understand it IDIOT, multiple times. I installed Vista Ultimate at least
15 times since August 15 partly because of bad installs and crashes (my own
ignorance) but I ended up with about 6 Vistas on 3 machine. Now I have one
more Vista with OEM.

Again, you, cretin, I can do multiple INSTALLS, LEGALLY.

Oh, sh*it, he pasted an XP EULA!!!!!!! Cretinism has no bounds. Another
MICHAEL is born.

You are a scummy crook and an idiot.

Have you, idiot ever heard of MSDN Professional Subscription?

 

[Nick Sherrmen]

Hello, the OP most likely does not have an MSDN Pro subscription that is a
unique case, not a normal user

If the OP is a normal user not an MSDN subscrinber or a have a volume
liscence the same restrictions apply to XP and to Vista, only one install
per PC. It was the same with win2000, 98, 95...

 

[MICHAEL]

You are an idiot.

I have an MSDN Pro subscription that allows me to download and install any OS (Vista of any
hue, XP, WinSer2003, WinSer2008, etc, etc, etc, any DevStudios, SPs, SDKs, etc. etc etc.) on
multiple computers as long as it is for my private office or home and not for sale.

You understand it IDIOT, multiple times. I installed Vista Ultimate at least 15 times since
August 15 partly because of bad installs and crashes (my own ignorance) but I ended up with
about 6 Vistas on 3 machine. Now I have one more Vista with OEM.

Again, you, cretin, I can do multiple INSTALLS, LEGALLY.

You are the idiot and the *crook*.

You are only allowed to use your MSDN subscription software
for testing and development. *Not* every day or normal usage.
*Not* for your secretary or any other employees, friends or family-
only *you* can use it. And *only* for testing purposes. You are *not*
supposed to use the software your personal every day use.
You are the crook. You have violated your agreement.

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/subscriptions/aa948864.aspx
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Project Professional and Visio Professional are included in MSDN Premium subscriptions for
development, testing, and demonstration purposes, however they may not be used for such
business use.

In addition, one copy of Office Professional 2003 can be used for general business use,
unrelated to development and testing. Again, only persons with an MSDN Premium Subscription
license can use these Microsoft Office products in this manner.

msdn.microsoft.com/subscriptions/downloads/EULA.pdf
<quote>
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-Michael

 

[key.boarder]

You are an idiot.

I have an MSDN Pro subscription that allows me to download and install any
OS (Vista of any hue, XP, WinSer2003, WinSer2008, etc, etc, etc, any
DevStudios, SPs, SDKs, etc. etc etc.) on multiple computers as long as it
is for my private office or home and not for sale.

You understand it IDIOT, multiple times. I installed Vista Ultimate at
least 15 times since August 15 partly because of bad installs and crashes
(my own ignorance) but I ended up with about 6 Vistas on 3 machine. Now I
have one more Vista with OEM.

Again, you, cretin, I can do multiple INSTALLS, LEGALLY.

Oh, sh*it, he pasted an XP EULA!!!!!!! Cretinism has no bounds. Another
MICHAEL is born.

You are a scummy crook and an idiot.

Have you, idiot ever heard of MSDN Professional Subscription?

Wow! You are really into the cretin word. New dictionary??? Finally find a
word you have personal experience with? Stamped on your immigration papers?
You had to install Vista 15 times because of your own ignorance. At least
you admit that. I have had to install it once per machine. Hmm. Who is the
cretin? Oh yeah, it is on your papers.

 

[Doug]

Nick shermen, Michael and Key.boarder explained to you that you are not only
wrong, you are incompetent and you are a crook too.

Let me add to that and tell you, you are a total idiot

With Windows, unless you have a volume license pack, you're only allowed
to have one installation on a single computer. Multiple installations
using the same product key without a volume license is considered piracy
and is usually prevented.

You are an idiot.

I have an MSDN Pro subscription that allows me to download and install any
OS (Vista of any hue, XP, WinSer2003, WinSer2008, etc, etc, etc, any
DevStudios, SPs, SDKs, etc. etc etc.) on multiple computers as long as it
is for my private office or home and not for sale.

You understand it IDIOT, multiple times. I installed Vista Ultimate at
least 15 times since August 15 partly because of bad installs and crashes
(my own ignorance) but I ended up with about 6 Vistas on 3 machine. Now I
have one more Vista with OEM.

Again, you, cretin, I can do multiple INSTALLS, LEGALLY.

Oh, sh*it, he pasted an XP EULA!!!!!!! Cretinism has no bounds. Another
MICHAEL is born.

You are a scummy crook and an idiot.

Have you, idiot ever heard of MSDN Professional Subscription?

 

[AlexB]

Forget it idiot.

MS is aware of ALL my installations, ALL. They have a database. I have a
user profile with them. When I go there I get an access to the product keys.
There are many hundreds of products in there but I use only certain types;
VStudio and OS. I have one machine with WinSer2003 which I am very seldom
use but I am planning to install WinSer2008 and use it on a regular basis.

Every time I install something on my machine ALL this information goes to
MS. They won't allow me to activate the OS without my entering the product
key. Also my ID goes there with my email address. You IDIOT may scream as
much as you want but it does not negate the fact that you are an idiot.

What they don't want me to use they don't allow me to use. Years ago I
downloaded SQL Server beta for one year. I did not realize that it was a
full version with Integration and Analysis Services, etc. After one year
expired I woke up to the fact that I needed a different database than VFP9
dbf xBase. I tried to run SQL Server and it was no more. I got a popup that
my license had expired and I had to pay. But that was an exception. I did
not need the full blow SQL Server anyway. I am just fine with SQL Express
with Advanced Features. It is free for download.

You must understand how idiotic you are because you challenge people with
direct experience and going around posting nonsense all the time.

Aside from SQL Server full version which I did not need I have never run
into any limits. they send me DVDs and there is no strings attached. if I
messed up a download, I do it again and again.

I do everything legally. Read my lips.

 

[MICHAEL]

Whether or not you are using your MSDN copy
of Vista for personal use or testing is based on
the honor system.

You have no honor.

Carry on your maniacal blather, douche.


-Michael

 

[AlexB]

That's my HONOR my dear crook. I do not peddle questionable software. I do
not give people advice in BAD faith.

 

[MICHAEL]

I see the group's comic relief has showed up.
Rest assured, goober- we are laughing at
you, and not with you.

Doesn't matter if your "advice" is in "bad faith"
or not, it's just *bad*, and I see you are still stupid
this morning. Have you looked into getting your
malfunctions fixed? You really need to. Quick fast
and in a hurry. I think you're broke.


-Michael