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GMAN
I have 4GB thumbdrive that has XP pro on it!!!
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GMAN
Most real Bios's allow you configure wheteher your thumbdrive at boot issnip
Ok, perhaps you will now post exactly how to reconfigure the OS to allow
WINXP to boot from a USB drive. Not withstanding two licences, I believe
the OS is owned by MS and you do not have the right to make modifications to
it without the permission of MS. I agree not many observe the legal
niceties so don't let that stop you.
handled by the bios as a floppy emulation or a Hard drive emulation. Set it to
be able to boot from USB device in the bios, set it to HD emulation, boot with
XP install cd, tell it which drive to install the OS on when prompted and
viola!!!! A 4 GB XP pro install on a USB stick!
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Timothy Daniels
GMAN said:Every motherboard i have bought to build my systems with
in the last 5 years or so have had boot from USB.
The OP's "USB device" is a hard drive. Have you ever
been able to boot WinXP with a USB hard drive controller?
Plus, if his system is new enough to have an eSATA port,
it most certainly has a boot by USB option in his bios .
One doesn't need a motherboard with an eSATA port
to do eSATA. There are back panel adapters to convert
from SATA to eSATA, and there are PCI and PCIe
controller cards to enable eSATA.
*TimDaniels*
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Timothy Daniels
GMAN said:What he meant was that for the bios to grab hold of external
devices like mice and keyboards and USB devices prior to
the OS booting, it needs the bios support for USB devices
enables so that it can use them without Windows driver
support. So yet they are considered legacy by the bios.
And can these USB mouse and keyboard controllers
boot a USB hard drive?
*TimDaniels*
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Plato
GMAN said:Every motherboard i have bought to build my systems with in the last 5 years
or so have had boot from USB.
Plus, if his system is new enough to have an eSATA port, it most certainly has
a boot by USB option in his bios .
NOT guaranteed to really work tho.
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iScorpious
hey JohnJohn- im also newb (like original Questioner)_& REALLY appreciate ur
comments on this thread. ive been reading MS/tech pages/etc.. on dual booting
and hav found what u stated -partial answers/help that either doesnt work (or
reqs an A++ cert to follow_) & lots on dual bootg Linux external Usb w/Win
internal HD.
HERES MY Q, please. does this apply when tryg to setup dual boot w/ diff.
Win OSes?(ie: Win2k internal & Vista on an external Usb_HD)
my BIOS does give multiple boot options (including "bootable add-in
card"-whatevr that is_)
Your "take" was refreshing, so ur reply wud b greatly appreciated
Thx
comments on this thread. ive been reading MS/tech pages/etc.. on dual booting
and hav found what u stated -partial answers/help that either doesnt work (or
reqs an A++ cert to follow_) & lots on dual bootg Linux external Usb w/Win
internal HD.
HERES MY Q, please. does this apply when tryg to setup dual boot w/ diff.
Win OSes?(ie: Win2k internal & Vista on an external Usb_HD)
my BIOS does give multiple boot options (including "bootable add-in
card"-whatevr that is_)
Your "take" was refreshing, so ur reply wud b greatly appreciated
Thx
J
John John
As far as I know you will also find it difficult to install and boot
Vista on an external USB drive, you can ask the folks in the
vista.general or the vista.installation_setup groups and see what they
have to say about it. It doesn't matter that you are trying to do it
with a dual/multi-boot setup or a single installation, booting Windows
on a USB drive is not supported, there are problems with the USB stack
initialization when you try to boot to the drive and there are problems
with USB bus rediscovery/reinitialization if you hotplug a USB device
while you are using Windows, Windows will probably crash if you hotplug
a USB device. You can read here:
http://blogs.msdn.com/oldnewthing/archive/2004/04/15/113811.aspx Other
than that you will have to scour the net and see what you can find, as I
said earlier, some claim to have done it, you will have to try their
recipe and see where takes you.
Most of the reports that I have read all mention that the end product is
buggy. This is a project for tinkerers, don't rely on this for your
stable working Windows installation. Installing Windows on an external
USB drive is not just a matter of changing the boot order in the BIOS
then sticking your Windows CD/DVD in the drive and telling it to install
to the USB drive! It takes modifications to the way Windows initializes
the USB stack. Some talk about that here:
http://channel9.msdn.com/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=174858 Finally, there is
a lot of mention about booting Windows on USB sticks, that is not the
same as installing and booting a full Windows installation on an
external USB drive, what people refer to when talking about Windows on
USB sticks is usually a PE version of Windows.
John
Vista on an external USB drive, you can ask the folks in the
vista.general or the vista.installation_setup groups and see what they
have to say about it. It doesn't matter that you are trying to do it
with a dual/multi-boot setup or a single installation, booting Windows
on a USB drive is not supported, there are problems with the USB stack
initialization when you try to boot to the drive and there are problems
with USB bus rediscovery/reinitialization if you hotplug a USB device
while you are using Windows, Windows will probably crash if you hotplug
a USB device. You can read here:
http://blogs.msdn.com/oldnewthing/archive/2004/04/15/113811.aspx Other
than that you will have to scour the net and see what you can find, as I
said earlier, some claim to have done it, you will have to try their
recipe and see where takes you.
Most of the reports that I have read all mention that the end product is
buggy. This is a project for tinkerers, don't rely on this for your
stable working Windows installation. Installing Windows on an external
USB drive is not just a matter of changing the boot order in the BIOS
then sticking your Windows CD/DVD in the drive and telling it to install
to the USB drive! It takes modifications to the way Windows initializes
the USB stack. Some talk about that here:
http://channel9.msdn.com/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=174858 Finally, there is
a lot of mention about booting Windows on USB sticks, that is not the
same as installing and booting a full Windows installation on an
external USB drive, what people refer to when talking about Windows on
USB sticks is usually a PE version of Windows.
John
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peter
I managed to get Vista booted on an external drive...
I first bought an external SATA drive case...with an external SATA connector
that connected to the regular SATA connector on the mobo at one end and fit
into an empty PCI slot.I then installed a SATA HD in the Case and connected
it to the external connector.The mobo actually read it as just another SATA
drive and by disconnecting internal HD I installed Vista on this external
drive.By choosing which HD to boot from I could chose this external drive or
the internal XP drive.My BIOS gave me the option to push F?( its been awhile
and cant remember which F) when booting and that would bring up a screen
where it showed all HD that were connected ..I would then chose which HD to
boot from.
This HD case was able to connect by means of either SATA or USB...it would
never boot off the USB.
maybe not what you had in mind...but it worked
peter
I first bought an external SATA drive case...with an external SATA connector
that connected to the regular SATA connector on the mobo at one end and fit
into an empty PCI slot.I then installed a SATA HD in the Case and connected
it to the external connector.The mobo actually read it as just another SATA
drive and by disconnecting internal HD I installed Vista on this external
drive.By choosing which HD to boot from I could chose this external drive or
the internal XP drive.My BIOS gave me the option to push F?( its been awhile
and cant remember which F) when booting and that would bring up a screen
where it showed all HD that were connected ..I would then chose which HD to
boot from.
This HD case was able to connect by means of either SATA or USB...it would
never boot off the USB.
maybe not what you had in mind...but it worked
peter
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Colin Barnhorst
Yes, the eSata port found on the back of newer mobos or a Sata pass through
bracket will allow you to boot off of an external hard drive connected by a
sata cable. I ran two of them on my test box all through Vista beta testing
and they proved very handy. There really is no need to try to use a usb
enclosure when Sata drives and enclosures are now very inexpensive.
bracket will allow you to boot off of an external hard drive connected by a
sata cable. I ran two of them on my test box all through Vista beta testing
and they proved very handy. There really is no need to try to use a usb
enclosure when Sata drives and enclosures are now very inexpensive.
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