DRW Access

[billyd380]

Hi Everyone,

I have a question about front page permissions. I have a forum an
results page for my employees to enter data on and then see th
results. I used the DRW and have a Windows 2003 server. They can ente
there data and it will enter into the database just fine but everyon
but me can't see the results page. It comes up with a username an
password box but only my username and password will open it. Th
network admin password even has to be entered, which is me but
different username. In front page under Tools the Server selection i
greyed out so I can't set the user permissions there. Is there a way t
fix this or get by it. I beleive all of my other permissions are se
right, but if some one would like to list all the ones I need to le
everyone see this results page that would be great.

Thanks for any suggestions I just hope its something I did and don'
remember

Bil


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billyd38

 

[nolehace]

Is the URL to this site a machine name or an FQDN?

Is the site set to anonymous or to require authentication?

If the Server selection is greyed out, you probably do not have ful
Administrative rights to the site.

Are you able to logon to the server with Terminal Server as th
Administrator or at the console itself?

Are the employees prompted for UID and PW for normal web pages or i
the rest of the site anonymous access?

Do they have accounts on this server or in an Active Directory?
looking to clarify your situation.

What database are you using?

Dir


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nolehac

 

[billyd380]

The URL is the IP of our server.

It is set to anonymous.

I am the Admin that's why I am confused on how I don't have rights.

I can log on to the console as the admin.

The only time the employees are asked for a UID and PW is when they ar
trying to access this one page or anything that was created by the DRW.

Everyone has an account with server through Active Directory.

The database is a simple MS Access Database.

Thanks for responding and I hope this hleps


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billyd38

 

[nolehace]

Sorry for more questions . . .

The URL is the IP of our server.

This may seem a little off topic, but do you only have one site on thi
server or do you have other sites using host headers or the machine nam
in combination with a port?

It is set to anonymous.

In both FrontPage and the IIS MMC?

I am the Admin that's why I am confused on how I don't have rights.
I can log on to the console as the admin.

Do you set all your web site permissions using FrontPage or do yo
sometimes make changes to specific folders using Windows Explorer?

The only time the employees are asked for a UID and PW is
when they are trying to access this one page or anything
that was created by the DRW.
Everyone has an account with server through Active Directory.
The database is a simple MS Access Database.

Is the dialog box asking for the uid and pw the standard NTLM dialog?
If so, then it's a server file or folder permission issue. If it is
web page or a custome dialog, then it's an Access database permission
issue.

Have you tried repairing the FrontPage Server Extensions


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nolehac

 

[billyd380]

I don't care about questions as long as they help.

..do you have other sites using host headers or the machine name i

combination with a port?

I only have the one site. I don't know if I mentioned this but it i
an Intranet if it makes a difference.

In both FrontPage and the IIS MMC?

I know it is set to anonymous in IIS, I don't remember doing anythin
in Front Page. How would I check that?

Do you set all your web site permissions using FrontPage or do yo

sometimes make changes to specific folders using Windows Explorer?

I set all permissions through Windows Explorer.

Is the dialog box asking for the uid and pw the standard NTLM dialog?

I have attatched what comes up when trying to access the page.

Have you tried repairing the FrontPage Server Extensions?

I have reinstalled and checked for errors on the FPSE

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[nolehace]

I don't care about questions as long as they help.

..do you have other sites using host headers or the machine name i

combination with a port?

I only have the one site. I don't know if I mentioned this but it i
an Intranet if it makes a difference.

In both FrontPage and the IIS MMC?

I know it is set to anonymous in IIS, I don't remember
doing anything in Front Page. How would I check that?

Since the Server menu item is disabled you can't check it until we ge
that fixed.

I set all permissions through Windows Explorer.

Once you have applied FrontPage Server Extensions to a web site, unles
you completely understand what FrontPage does with permissions, only us
FrontPage to set or change permissions on a site. CACLS is the onl
exception that I make when applying a permission that has nothing to d
with the web site as it will not touch other security settings . .
unless you tell it to.

dialog?

I have attatched what comes up when trying to access the page.

All I get is text in this forum. If you can post it on a web page o
an Internet web site you can send the URL.

I have reinstalled and checked for errors on the FPSE.

On this server, try creating another site, say on port 801
(YourMachineName:8011 will be the site), apply FP server extensions an
then see if you can see the Server menu item on that empty site when yo
open the site with FrontPage.

That should be pretty fast, just having to make a new folder unde
inetpub, then use the IIS MMC to create the site and apply FP Serve
extensions. Set the site to anonymous and Integrated Authentication i
the MMC. Then open it in FrontPage and see if you can see the Serve
tab.

If that works you should be able to then apply permissions usin
FrontPage. Create a Browse ony group in AD and add all your users an
apply that group to the site - only using FrontPage.

I would not attempt to make any changes using Windows Explorer withou
doing some serious homework.

Then publish your old site into your new site and try checkin
permissions and access again


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nolehac

 

[billyd380]

Well I got everything done and when I went to edit the new site
created the server option is still grayed out


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billyd38

 

[nolehace]

Well I got everything done and when I went to edit the new
site I created the server option is still grayed out.

Did you create the folder under c:\inetpub\ ?

If so, check the permissions on that folder.

Is the local Administrators group on that folder? And, of course, ar
you are in the local Administrators group?

What other groups are listed in the permissions for the folder?

Is the folder you created still inheriting permissions from its parent


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nolehac

 

[nolehace]

I know it is set to anonymous in IIS, I don't remember doing anythin
in Front Page. How would I check that?

You won't be able to see this until you can see the Server menu item


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nolehac

 

[billyd380]

Yes it it is created under c:\inetpub\ and it is inheriting permissions
Here are all the permissions listed.

Administrators
IIS_WPG
IUSR
Systems
Users

I even added just my name to the list eventhough it is in th
Administrator group


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billyd38

 

[nolehace]

Yes it it is created under c:\inetpub\ and it is inheriting permissions
Here are all the permissions listed.

Administrators
IIS_WPG
IUSR
Systems
Users

I even added just my name to the list eventhough it is in the
Administrator group.

Once you've created a FrontPage site, only use FrontPage to manage th
site permissions and IIS MMC for global site settings.

Once you've made changes with Explorer, you may as well create a ne
site or perhaps fixing the extensions with the IIS MMC may correc
permissions.

It's OK if /inetpub inherits, but not the folder you created underneat
it.

When you first create a new folder under /inetpub, by default, the ne
folder will inhererit from /inetpub.

But, the act of creating the site using IIS MMC and pointing the sit
to the new /inetpug/yourfolder and applying FrontPage server extension
to the site turns off inheriting from /inetpub as FrontPage should tak
over handling permissions.

Were you referring to /inetpub permissions and inheritance or th
folder you made underneath it


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nolehac

 

[billyd380]

I was refering to the folder I created with in Inetpub. How do us
FrontPage to manage site permissions if the Server is grayed out?

*Yes it it is created under c:\inetpub\ and it is inheritin
permissions. Here are all the permissions listed.

Administrators
IIS_WPG
IUSR
Systems
Users


Once you've created a FrontPage site, only use FrontPage to manag
the site permissions and IIS MMC for global site settings.

Once you've made changes with Explorer, you may as well create a ne
site or perhaps fixing the extensions with the IIS MMC may correc
permissions.

It's OK if /inetpub inherits, but not the folder you create
underneath it.

When you first create a new folder under /inetpub, by default, th
new folder will inhererit from /inetpub.

But, the act of creating the site using IIS MMC and pointing the sit
to the new /inetpug/yourfolder and applying FrontPage serve
extensions to the site turns off inheriting from /inetpub a
FrontPage should take over handling permissions.

Were you referring to /inetpub permissions and inheritance or th
folder you made underneath it?

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billyd38

 

[Stefan B Rusynko]

Are you opening the local site as a server based site (http://localhost), not a disc based web ?
Did you install and configure the FP SE for the root web under IIS?
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|
| I was refering to the folder I created with in Inetpub. How do use
| FrontPage to manage site permissions if the Server is grayed out?
|
|
|
| nolehace wrote:
| > *Yes it it is created under c:\inetpub\ and it is inheriting
| > permissions. Here are all the permissions listed.
| >
| > Administrators
| > IIS_WPG
| > IUSR
| > Systems
| > Users
| >
| > > I even added just my name to the list eventhough it is in the
| > > Administrator group.
| >
| > Once you've created a FrontPage site, only use FrontPage to manage
| > the site permissions and IIS MMC for global site settings.
| >
| > Once you've made changes with Explorer, you may as well create a new
| > site or perhaps fixing the extensions with the IIS MMC may correct
| > permissions.
| >
| > It's OK if /inetpub inherits, but not the folder you created
| > underneath it.
| >
| > When you first create a new folder under /inetpub, by default, the
| > new folder will inhererit from /inetpub.
| >
| > But, the act of creating the site using IIS MMC and pointing the site
| > to the new /inetpug/yourfolder and applying FrontPage server
| > extensions to the site turns off inheriting from /inetpub as
| > FrontPage should take over handling permissions.
| >
| > Were you referring to /inetpub permissions and inheritance or the
| > folder you made underneath it? *
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[nolehace]

I was refering to the folder I created with in Inetpub. How do use
FrontPage to manage site permissions if the Server is grayed out?

It may be that the IIS MMC is not breaking the inheritance between th
/inetpub folder and the folder you created. I have experienced thi
before and we "resolved" it by rebooting the server.

But, even before reboot, I was able to create a new folder and turn of
inheritance manually and then create the site and apply FP Serve
Extensions successfully.

The only permissions on the folder were the Administrators group an
SYSTEM each with full control


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nolehac

 

[Thomas A. Rowe]

You should not have to create folders directly in inetpub.

If you are having problem with running ASP or using FP database components, then make sure the
database is within the web or subweb that you are trying to access it from, and then under the MMC
IIS, Home Directory tab for the web or subweb, make sure that you have configured the Application
settings.

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[billyd380]

OK, I rebooted the server and created the new folder in Inetpub an
created a new site, but I still can't set front page permissions.
Thanks for all your help I hope you still have some stuff I can try.

Bil


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billyd38