downgrade vista to xp HELP !!!

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Tillpott

Hi

would someone please give me step by step instructions on how to downgrade a
new HP desktop from vista to xp?

I am blonde but capable ... lol ... and I can follow instructions . . . lol

thanks in advance
 
P

Pegasus \(MVP\)

Tillpott said:
Hi

would someone please give me step by step instructions on how to downgrade
a
new HP desktop from vista to xp?

I am blonde but capable ... lol ... and I can follow instructions . . .
lol

thanks in advance

It can't be done - you need to perform a full installation of WinXP.
 
F

farid

I would suggest you continue useing Vista. It's a bit slow in loading but
otherwise there are no problems.
Get all the updates given by Microsoft and you will start liking the Vista.
Cheers,
Farid
 
D

DL

First thing to do is to visit HP support site & check that winxp drivers are
avilable for your specific system
 
R

Rock

Tillpott said:
Hi

would someone please give me step by step instructions on how to downgrade
a
new HP desktop from vista to xp?

I am blonde but capable ... lol ... and I can follow instructions . . .
lol

thanks in advance

There is no mechanism to "downgrade" from Vista to XP. You need to install
XP from an installation disk using it's own key. Before you purchase a
retail copy of XP you'll need to go to the computer manufacturer's tech
support website and see if there are XP drivers available for your computer.
Many manufacturer's of new computers are not providing XP drivers. If they
are not available then XP won't run on your system. If XP drivers are
available download them and burn them to a CD. Backup the data you need to
save, then see this link for information on how to install XP.

http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html
 
T

Tillpott

Not for me to choose I am doing it for a friend. But personally I do prefer
XP and I would not change.
 
T

Tillpott

Purchasing a retial copy of Xp is not the problem ~ have already done that.

Just need someone to step by step me thru it ~
 
T

Tillpott

Thanks Rock,

Have requested the computers details from my friend ~ it is only about 4
mths old ~ but he is having a lot of issues with Vista and is only just
learning the computer @ 60yrs ~ and is not very computer literate and want it
changed to be like his sons, something he is familiar with.

Buying a retail XP CD is not an issue ~ he's ok with that.

I do relaize it will be the drivers I have to look for on HP when I get the
make anmd model.

What I would like is a HOW TO on changing the os. I need simple istructions
that I can follow. I have read about SATA and BIOS and have no Idea how to
find them let alone change them or turn them off.

So what ever is required ~ I need instructions to follow.

Can you point me to anywhere that will assist me ?

He does not have much on his computer and what he has I can back up on my
external hard drive.

Thanks for your help
 
R

Rock

Tillpott said:
Thanks Rock,

Have requested the computers details from my friend ~ it is only about 4
mths old ~ but he is having a lot of issues with Vista and is only just
learning the computer @ 60yrs ~ and is not very computer literate and want
it
changed to be like his sons, something he is familiar with.

Buying a retail XP CD is not an issue ~ he's ok with that.

I do relaize it will be the drivers I have to look for on HP when I get
the
make anmd model.

What I would like is a HOW TO on changing the os. I need simple
istructions
that I can follow. I have read about SATA and BIOS and have no Idea how
to
find them let alone change them or turn them off.

So what ever is required ~ I need instructions to follow.

Can you point me to anywhere that will assist me ?

He does not have much on his computer and what he has I can back up on my
external hard drive.

Thanks for your help


I gave you a link for how to clean install XP.
 
S

Script

Tillpott said:
Hi

would someone please give me step by step instructions on how to downgrade a
new HP desktop from vista to xp?

You are, most likely, "putting the cart before the horse".
When you get the HP make/model, go to the HP site.
After entering the above, choosing XP as the OS, and going to "Downloads" to
get the drivers you will need - you'll probably see no XP drivers.
Therefore, no XP install, at all. (And no tech support from HP, if you try
it.)
 
R

Robert Moir

So what ever is required ~ I need instructions to follow.

Can you point me to anywhere that will assist me ?

Michael Steven's guide, that rock pointed you at earlier, is actually pretty
good. You might find similar guides around but I'm not sure you'll find
better. Also, lots of people here know that guide so if you step through
that and post here if you get stuck you should be sure that people here will
understand the guide you are using and what it is trying to do.
 
S

Script

Tillpott said:
Thanks Rock,

Have requested the computers details from my friend ~ it is only about 4
mths old ~ but he is having a lot of issues with Vista and is only just
learning the computer @ 60yrs ~ and is not very computer literate and want it
changed to be like his sons, something he is familiar with.
If you find you cannot install XP, perhaps this link will help your friend:

http://www.thegline.com/windows/windows_vista/xp_users_guide_to/
 
H

HeyBub

Tillpott said:
Not for me to choose I am doing it for a friend. But personally I do
prefer XP and I would not change.

What you're attempting has been proven to be a very effective way of losing
a friend.

Anyway, if you've purchased a retail copy of XP, the instructions should
come with the software. Give it a try.

Warning:
Additional preliminary steps are needed if your putative "friend" has
anything that needs saving before the installation.
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

Hi

would someone please give me step by step instructions on how to downgrade a
new HP desktop from vista to xp?


Two points:

1. Downgrades are never supported, and you can *not* do what you want.
The only way to go from Vista to XP is to install XP cleanly, from
scratch, losing everything on the drive.

2. Before you do this, make sure that any needed XP drivers are
available for the particular computer. You are less likely to run into
a problem with this on a desktop than on a laptop, but check to be
sure.
 
N

none@none

Two points:

1. Downgrades are never supported, and you can *not* do what you want.
The only way to go from Vista to XP is to install XP cleanly, from
scratch, losing everything on the drive.

2. Before you do this, make sure that any needed XP drivers are
available for the particular computer. You are less likely to run into
a problem with this on a desktop than on a laptop, but check to be
sure.

Not A Good Idea As Microsoft Plans 2 Discontinue Support 4 Windows XP
Home Users (4 All Versions Of Windows XP) On April 14th, 2009, Just FYI.
Your Better Option Is 2 Migrate Over 2 Linux, Just FYI.
 
B

Bruce Chambers

Tillpott said:
Hi

would someone please give me step by step instructions on how to downgrade a
new HP desktop from vista to xp?

I am blonde but capable ... lol ... and I can follow instructions . . . lol

thanks in advance


It's your computer, so the choice is, ultimately, yours. (Although
it would have been a lot simpler to have just purchased the computer
with WinXP installed, to start with.)

However, there could be a couple possible adverse repercussions of
which you should be aware. First and foremost, if the specific computer
model in question was designed specifically for Vista, there may well be
no WinXP-specific device drivers available to make the computer's
diverse components work properly. Consult the computer's manufacturer
about the availability of device drivers. Secondly, removing an
OEM-installed operating system and replacing it with another will almost
invariably void any and all support agreements and, sometimes, even the
warranty. You would, at the very least, have to re-install Vista before
getting any support from the manufacturer. Again, consult the
computer's manufacturer for specifics. Thirdly, there may be the
additional cost involved in purchasing a WinXP license for this new
computer.

After backing up any data you wish to transfer to the new OS
installation, simply boot from the WinXP installation CD. You'll be
offered the opportunity to delete, create, and format partitions as part
of the installation process. (You may need to re-arrange the order of
boot devices in the PC's BIOS to boot from the CD.)

HOW TO Install Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;316941

http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html

http://www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/clean_install.htm

Then, assuming you were successful in obtaining WinXP-specific
device drivers so that the computer can be made to work with WinXP, the
backed up data can be restored and applications (those that are
WinXP-compatible, that is) re-installed.


--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:


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They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot
 
D

Daave

none@none said:
Not A Good Idea As Microsoft Plans 2 Discontinue Support 4 Windows XP
Home Users (4 All Versions Of Windows XP) On April 14th, 2009, Just
FYI.

Hogwash.

Extended support (security updates) will be available through 2014.
Combined with Usenet, that should be just fine.
 
T

Tillpott

Hey Bruce Thanks for the info

I have contacted HP and they are more than happy to supply me with the
relevent drivers needed after the downgrade to XP.

They recommended making a full set of recovery CD's before I change anything
which makes a whole lot of sense.

Would you mind explaining what you mean by (You may need to re-arrange the
order of boot devices in the PC's BIOS to boot from the CD.) as I have never
installed an OS before from scratch and would appreciate the guidance.

I have noted the other links and will study those also.

Thank you everyone most have been very helpful


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C

Colin Barnhorst

Enter the BIOS and check the Boot tab to see what device is on the top of
the boot order list. It may be something like PXE (network installations
use this) or the hdd. Select the top device and use the "+" key to cycle
through the devices until it shows the cd drive. Then press F10 to exit
saving changes. Otherwise when you boot the system it checks the hard drive
before the cd, boots from the hard drive because an OS is alredy installed
on it, and you never get it to boot from the cd.

Tillpott said:
Hey Bruce Thanks for the info

I have contacted HP and they are more than happy to supply me with the
relevent drivers needed after the downgrade to XP.

They recommended making a full set of recovery CD's before I change
anything
which makes a whole lot of sense.

Would you mind explaining what you mean by (You may need to re-arrange the
order of boot devices in the PC's BIOS to boot from the CD.) as I have
never
installed an OS before from scratch and would appreciate the guidance.

I have noted the other links and will study those also.

Thank you everyone most have been very helpful


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