Doesn't anyone at Microsoft monitor these groups?

[David W. Fenton]

It's not about posting on microsoft.com. You're asking me to
make my MVP profile on microsoft.com public, which I'm not going
to do.

No, I'm not. I'm asking for you to post with your real name.

[]

Besides, Microsoft doesn't make it a requirement, but they do
request that we use the MVP designation in public. It helps
with public awareness.

If you're anonymous, it has no value at all, in my opinion --
anyone could claim it.

David, give the guy a break. I have no way to ascertain who he is,
but his assertion that there are MVP's who do not reveal their
real identity is absolutely true; and I find his reasons for
posting under a pseudonym quite reasonable. Given that he's giving
accurate, MVP-quality replies - which seems to be the case - I'd
be inclined to accept his peculiar situation.

I think he should not post with MVP in his sig if he's not willing
to verify his identity.

Quality posts are not limited to real MVPs (or people claiming to be
MVPs), and his posts will stand are fall based on their content,
regardless of what he's claiming in his signature. But having MVP in
the sig implies things to some people (wrongly, in my opinion).

There is one way for him to verify that he is an MVP. If he were to
participate in the MVP newsgroups, then other non-anonymous MVPs
could verify that he's legit.

Absent that, he must be completely bogus.

 

[Douglas J. Steele]

There is one way for him to verify that he is an MVP. If he were to
participate in the MVP newsgroups, then other non-anonymous MVPs
could verify that he's legit.

We've been trying, but Microsoft has implemented very stringent privacy
rules. They will not release any information about an MVP, even to other
MVPs, unless the MVP has made his/her information public.

 

[Tony Toews [MVP]]

We've been trying, but Microsoft has implemented very stringent privacy
rules. They will not release any information about an MVP, even to other
MVPs, unless the MVP has made his/her information public.

Those are two separate issues.

Tony
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[Tony Toews [MVP]]

Absent that, he must be completely bogus.

I find Chris's reasons to be quite understandable so I don't see his
claim as being bogus.

Tony
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[Tony Toews [MVP]]

David, give the guy a break. I have no way to ascertain who he is, but his
assertion that there are MVP's who do not reveal their real identity is
absolutely true; and I find his reasons for posting under a pseudonym quite
reasonable. Given that he's giving accurate, MVP-quality replies - which seems
to be the case - I'd be inclined to accept his peculiar situation.

Likewise.

Tony
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[David W. Fenton]

Those are two separate issues.

Yes. If he's an MVP he can participate in the MVP newsgroups, no? If
he shows up posting the same there as here, then he's legit.

 

[David W. Fenton]

I find Chris's reasons to be quite understandable so I don't see
his claim as being bogus.

Sorry, but I don't see them as legit.

 

[Tony Toews [MVP]]

But you can see for yourself whether I'm legit. Only MVPs can sign in and
post with a blue Microsoft MVP icon next to their names on the Microsoft site.
Check
http://www.microsoft.com/office/com...c.access.formscoding&lang=en&cr=US&sloc=en-us


Scroll down a little more than half way to my post with my name Chris O'C,
dated 4/27/2008 10:05 PM EST. Notice the blue MVP icon? There's your proof.

That works for me. As I can't stand web interfaces I hadn't thought
of that approach.

Tony
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[David W. Fenton]

There are several ways to verify if I'm really an MVP. Please
don't ask MVPs to get into trouble and possibly lose their MVP
status by reporting what they see in the private MVP groups. If
you want to see who posts in the private MVP groups, you need to
become an MVP yourself and sign Microsoft's NDA.

Microsoft has rejected me each time I've been nominated, for
whatever reasons (perhaps because I'm publicly committed to using
non-Microsoft products because I believe in a varied software
ecosystem).

But you can see for yourself whether I'm legit. Only MVPs can
sign in and post with a blue Microsoft MVP icon next to their
names on the Microsoft site. Check
http://www.microsoft.com/office/community/en-us/default.mspx?pg=2&p
=1&tid=7ceedab0-bed0-41c6-87a3-22a064148008&dg=microsoft.public.acc
ess.formscoding&lang=en&cr=US&sloc=en-us

I get "service unavailable" for the URL.

 

[Tony Toews [MVP]]

Microsoft has rejected me each time I've been nominated, for
whatever reasons (perhaps because I'm publicly committed to using
non-Microsoft products because I believe in a varied software
ecosystem).

No, as far as I know those are not the reasons at all. I also didn't
know that you have publicly committed to using non MS products. I'm
sure you're not the only one.

Tony
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[David W. Fenton]

No, as far as I know those are not the reasons at all. I also
didn't know that you have publicly committed to using non MS
products. I'm sure you're not the only one.

I'm also a huge fan of MS Office as a development platform, and have
been for years. I've been a huge advocate of that in forums where
there's great hostility to MS products. I just won't use MS products
on the web, since in that area, they're not best-of-breed.