Doesn't anyone at Microsoft monitor these groups?

[Dale Fye]

I've recently noticed a huge increase in the number of SPAM messages being
posted to the Access newsgroups. Doesn't anyone from Microsoft monitor and
police the groups?

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[Tom Lake]

I've recently noticed a huge increase in the number of SPAM messages being
posted to the Access newsgroups. Doesn't anyone from Microsoft monitor and
police the groups?

No, they don't. These are unmoderated groups.

Tom Lake

 

[Klatuu]

MS does have someone that should be monitoring spam, but I heard that the
filters are down today and not being watched as they should.

 

[Dale Fye]

Chris,

I prefer to use Outlook Express, but at work I have to use the Web based
interface. The URL for the FormsCoding group using IE is:

https://www.microsoft.com/office/co...osoft.public.access.formscoding&lang=en&cr=US

Do some of the other sites (AccessMonster for instance) filter these out?

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[Tony Toews [MVP]]

but I heard that the filters are down today

News to me. If so the filters have been down for a week.

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[Tony Toews [MVP]]

I've recently noticed a huge increase in the number of SPAM messages being
posted to the Access newsgroups. Doesn't anyone from Microsoft monitor and
police the groups?

Looks like a bunch of them have been removed in the last few hours.

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[Tony Toews [MVP]]

Chris
Microsoft MVP

Who are you? Have you setup your MVP profile yet?

Tony
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[David W. Fenton]

I've recently noticed a huge increase in the number of SPAM
messages being posted to the Access newsgroups. Doesn't anyone
from Microsoft monitor and police the groups?

How, exactly, could someone from Microsoft prevent spam from
appearing on news servers that aren't under Microsoft's control? I,
for one, don't read Usenet through MS's server, so whatever MS does
on its own server has no effect on the groups as they are stored on
my news server.

 

[Dale Fye]

David,

I assumed that since I am on the microsoft.public.access.formscoding news
server, that it is run by Microsoft. I guess I could be wrong, it has
happened before.

Dale

 

[Tony Toews [MVP]]

I assumed that since I am on the microsoft.public.access.formscoding news
server, that it is run by Microsoft. I guess I could be wrong, it has
happened before.

Actually microsoft.public.access.formscoding is the news group name
which is on lots of newsgroup aka NNTP servers. You are posting on
the news.microsoft.com (or msnews.microsoft.com) server.

Judging by his posting headers David is posting from a server run by
newsdawg.com or newsguy.com.

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[David W. Fenton]

Hi, I'm Chris. My profile isn't public.

Chris
Microsoft MVP

Then you're probably not really an MVP, right?

 

[Tony Toews [MVP]]

I'm really an MVP.

Trouble is we don't really know that.

That said I haven't noticed you being a jerk in the newsgroups and the
postings of yours that I have noticed have been decent so it's not
that likely you're masquerading.

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[Tony Toews [MVP]]

Thanks for the tepid vote of confidence.

<shrug> There are folks who have pretended to be such in the past.
Thus we're a bit skeptical.

Come on over and join us in the private area.

That said, MVP's haven't cornered the market. Many non-MVP's post great
answers and aren't jerks either.

Absolutely.

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[David W. Fenton]

Trouble is we don't really know that.

That said I haven't noticed you being a jerk in the newsgroups and
the postings of yours that I have noticed have been decent so it's
not that likely you're masquerading.

I've never known an MVP to hide his or her identity in the
newsgroups. What purpose is served by that? It certainly raises
questions, especially given the number of kooks we've had around
these parts who have issues with the concept of the MVP.

 

[David W. Fenton]

That said, MVP's haven't cornered the market. Many non-MVP's post
great answers and aren't jerks either.

And some non-MVP's (like me) are jerks.

Anywhoo, as long as you don't post an identity, I simply can't
believe that you're really an MVP. There's no purpose in being an
MVP and hiding your identity. The only reason I can think of for
hiding identity is that you aren't really an MVP.

Convince us that you're not.

I won't plonk you for a couple of days to give you an opportunity to
come clean.

 

[Stuart McCall]

I've never known an MVP to hide his or her identity in the
newsgroups. What purpose is served by that? It certainly raises
questions, especially given the number of kooks we've had around
these parts who have issues with the concept of the MVP.

Speaking as a common jerk:

I can't guess what purpose would be served either, but Chris O'C is likely
to be genuine, for no better reason than aaron_kempf (speaking of kooks)
doesn't like him at all. There were quite a few posts earlier this year,
like:

"Warning!

this Chris guy is not credible.
He does not know the basics of MS Access.

-Aaron"

which is quite obviously untrue, judging by the quality of Chris' posts.

 

[David W. Fenton]

I can't guess what purpose would be served either, but Chris O'C
is likely to be genuine, for no better reason than aaron_kempf
(speaking of kooks) doesn't like him at all. There were quite a
few posts earlier this year, like:

"Warning!

this Chris guy is not credible.
He does not know the basics of MS Access.

-Aaron"

which is quite obviously untrue, judging by the quality of Chris'
posts.

Um, Aaron says that about anybody who dares to point out his
numerous errors.

 

[David W. Fenton]

You can plonk me right now because I'm not going to jeopardize my
job to satisfy someone's curiosity. I don't want anyone from my
company discovering my name right next to names of known employees
of our competition on a site of authority like microsoft.com.

Eh? You're not posting on microsoft.com. You're posting on Usenet.

I can help people online while hiding in plain sight from my
company in these groups. Even if someone spotted my posts, they'd
never wonder "Is that **our** Chris?!" since I don't work with MS
Office.

If you don't work with MS Office, how can you be an MVP? Or are you
not an Access MVP?

I could claim to be an MVP, too, except that everyone knows who I am
and that I'm not an MVP. You are hiding your identity. I suggest you
drop the MVP. Without an actual identity, it does nothing to
increase your credibility -- your posts do just fine in that regard.

 

[David W. Fenton]

It's not about posting on microsoft.com. You're asking me to make
my MVP profile on microsoft.com public, which I'm not going to do.

No, I'm not. I'm asking for you to post with your real name.

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Besides, Microsoft doesn't make it a requirement, but they do
request that we use the MVP designation in public. It helps with
public awareness.

If you're anonymous, it has no value at all, in my opinion -- anyone
could claim it.

 

[John W. Vinson]

It's not about posting on microsoft.com. You're asking me to make
my MVP profile on microsoft.com public, which I'm not going to do.

No, I'm not. I'm asking for you to post with your real name.

[]

Besides, Microsoft doesn't make it a requirement, but they do
request that we use the MVP designation in public. It helps with
public awareness.

If you're anonymous, it has no value at all, in my opinion -- anyone
could claim it.

David, give the guy a break. I have no way to ascertain who he is, but his
assertion that there are MVP's who do not reveal their real identity is
absolutely true; and I find his reasons for posting under a pseudonym quite
reasonable. Given that he's giving accurate, MVP-quality replies - which seems
to be the case - I'd be inclined to accept his peculiar situation.