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Guest
I know WinXP uses NTFS 3.1, but does Vista use a newer, better version? If
so, what are the benefits of that versus WinXP NTFS 3.1?
so, what are the benefits of that versus WinXP NTFS 3.1?
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Bill Frisbee
As far as I know it's still NTFS 3.1.
However running diskpart does show the ability to detect bitlocker...
Bill F.
However running diskpart does show the ability to detect bitlocker...
Bill F.
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Chad Harris
Yes --Transactional NTFS and for good info on this check out
http://blogs.msdn.com/because_we_can/search.aspx?q=ntfs&p=1
http://blogs.msdn.com/because_we_can/archive/2005/04/25/411874.aspx
http://blogs.msdn.com/because_we_can/archive/2005/04/21/410628.aspx
Webcast on Vista NTFS
MSDN Webcast: The Revolutionary Windows Vista Transactional NTFS (TxF)
Infrastructure (Level 200) Event ID: 1032294095
http://g.msn.com/9SE/1?http://mseve...19e913064ac9e4a&POS=1&CM=WPU&CE=1&CS=AWP&SR=1
Enjoy.
CH
http://blogs.msdn.com/because_we_can/search.aspx?q=ntfs&p=1
http://blogs.msdn.com/because_we_can/archive/2005/04/25/411874.aspx
http://blogs.msdn.com/because_we_can/archive/2005/04/21/410628.aspx
Webcast on Vista NTFS
MSDN Webcast: The Revolutionary Windows Vista Transactional NTFS (TxF)
Infrastructure (Level 200) Event ID: 1032294095
http://g.msn.com/9SE/1?http://mseve...19e913064ac9e4a&POS=1&CM=WPU&CE=1&CS=AWP&SR=1
Enjoy.
CH
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Guest
In order for me to use TxF on my current HD, do I need a full reformat with
the Final-Release Vista Boot-Disk to achieve this or is this something that
gets automatically implemented transparently on current WinXP-formatted
drives?
the Final-Release Vista Boot-Disk to achieve this or is this something that
gets automatically implemented transparently on current WinXP-formatted
drives?
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Chad Harris
Larry this is something that gets automatically implemented as part of
Vista--you need only install Vista. It's essentially their version of NTFS
in Vista.
An excellent set of high quality resources that frequently has new entries
on the Vista file system, numerous server issues and Vista issues, and Vista
Beta team chat reproductions is Jill Zoeller's blog. Jill has taken the
time to participate on this group, as has Darrel Gorter, two of the very few
people at MSFT Redmond Vista who do this.
See Jill Zoeller's Team Blog and her links to other blogs at
http://blogs.technet.com/filecab/default.aspx.
Take a look at the tags Jill has listed on the right of her web page. If
you're interested in some of those topics they provide a lot of valuable
information.
CH
Vista--you need only install Vista. It's essentially their version of NTFS
in Vista.
An excellent set of high quality resources that frequently has new entries
on the Vista file system, numerous server issues and Vista issues, and Vista
Beta team chat reproductions is Jill Zoeller's blog. Jill has taken the
time to participate on this group, as has Darrel Gorter, two of the very few
people at MSFT Redmond Vista who do this.
See Jill Zoeller's Team Blog and her links to other blogs at
http://blogs.technet.com/filecab/default.aspx.
Take a look at the tags Jill has listed on the right of her web page. If
you're interested in some of those topics they provide a lot of valuable
information.
CH
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Donald L McDaniel
The answer is "Yes, it does."
By the way, the version of NTFS in XP is 5.1, not 3.1
If I'm not mistaken, the version of NTFS found in Vista RTM will be
"6.something-or-other".
Donald
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By the way, the version of NTFS in XP is 5.1, not 3.1
If I'm not mistaken, the version of NTFS found in Vista RTM will be
"6.something-or-other".
Donald
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Jeff
lol
thats cuz xp was considered nt5-and vista most probably will be considered
nt6.
thats cuz xp was considered nt5-and vista most probably will be considered
nt6.
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Guest
So all-in-all to get from WinXP's NTFS 5.x to Vista's NTFS 6.x - does this
require a full reformat? Or is 6.x simply the TxF we were posting earlier
that turns any WinXP NTFS 5.1 to Vista's NTFS 6.x automatically?
require a full reformat? Or is 6.x simply the TxF we were posting earlier
that turns any WinXP NTFS 5.1 to Vista's NTFS 6.x automatically?
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SESSION_EVENT
Donald:
Use the built-in FSUTIL utility and you will find that indeed, the version
of NTFS in Windows XP/2003 is 3.1
E.g. at the Commadnd Prompt type:
fsutil fsinfo ntfsinfo c:
hit Enter
and look at the version number .. it's 3.1
It's called version 5.1 in the press after XP's NT version which is 5.1.
Windows Server 2003 uses the same version (that is: 3.1 / 5.1) of NTFS as XP
does.
Use the built-in FSUTIL utility and you will find that indeed, the version
of NTFS in Windows XP/2003 is 3.1
E.g. at the Commadnd Prompt type:
fsutil fsinfo ntfsinfo c:
hit Enter
and look at the version number .. it's 3.1
It's called version 5.1 in the press after XP's NT version which is 5.1.
Windows Server 2003 uses the same version (that is: 3.1 / 5.1) of NTFS as XP
does.
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John Barnes
The version of NTFS found in RC1 x64 version of Vista is 3.1. If you know
how to use fsutil go check
how to use fsutil go check
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John Barnes
Don't forget to run as administrator for Vista
SESSION_EVENT said:Donald:
Use the built-in FSUTIL utility and you will find that indeed, the version
of NTFS in Windows XP/2003 is 3.1
E.g. at the Commadnd Prompt type:
fsutil fsinfo ntfsinfo c:
hit Enter
and look at the version number .. it's 3.1
It's called version 5.1 in the press after XP's NT version which is 5.1.
Windows Server 2003 uses the same version (that is: 3.1 / 5.1) of NTFS as
XP
does.
S
SESSION_EVENT
Sorry - 'should have said:
Right-click on the Command Prompt link and select "Run as Administrator".
Right-click on the Command Prompt link and select "Run as Administrator".
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Richard Urban
The version of NTFS in Vista 5744 is : 6.0.5744.16384
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Regards,
Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
Posted using Vista RC2 5744
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)
Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
--
Regards,
Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
Posted using Vista RC2 5744
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)
Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
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Alexander Suhovey
-----Original Message-----
Larry,
New Vista's file system features like TxF and symlinks are designed to
have minimal impact on on-disk structures. As others already pointed
out, Vista uses same version of NTFS as most recent previous versions of
Windows. You don't need to perform re-format or any other
data-destructive procedures to be able to use these new features.
For more information refer to following TechNet chat transcript:
https://blogs.technet.com/filecab/articles/457811.aspx
From: larry23 [mailto:[email protected]]
Posted At: Monday, October 23, 2006 5:59 AM
Posted To: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
Conversation: Does Vista use a new version of NTFS?
Subject: Re: Does Vista use a new version of NTFS?
So all-in-all to get from WinXP's NTFS 5.x to Vista's NTFS 6.x - does this
require a full reformat? Or is 6.x simply the TxF we were posting earlier
that turns any WinXP NTFS 5.1 to Vista's NTFS 6.x automatically?
Larry,
New Vista's file system features like TxF and symlinks are designed to
have minimal impact on on-disk structures. As others already pointed
out, Vista uses same version of NTFS as most recent previous versions of
Windows. You don't need to perform re-format or any other
data-destructive procedures to be able to use these new features.
For more information refer to following TechNet chat transcript:
https://blogs.technet.com/filecab/articles/457811.aspx
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Donald L McDaniel
Donald:
Use the built-in FSUTIL utility and you will find that indeed, the version
of NTFS in Windows XP/2003 is 3.1
E.g. at the Commadnd Prompt type:
fsutil fsinfo ntfsinfo c:
hit Enter
and look at the version number .. it's 3.1
It's called version 5.1 in the press after XP's NT version which is 5.1.
Windows Server 2003 uses the same version (that is: 3.1 / 5.1) of NTFS as XP
does.
I apologize in sack-cloth and ashes. fsutil does indeed return an NTFS
version of 3.1 for Windows XP w/SP2.
Since I currently do not have Vista installed, I don't know what would be
returned in Vista.
I guess I and others tend to confuse the file-system with the Operating
System.
Probably, Vista will be "Microsoft Windows 6.something", just as XP is
"Microsoft Windows 5.1.2600"
Of course, I could also be wrong about that.
Donald
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Donald L McDaniel
The version of NTFS in Vista 5744 is : 6.0.5744.16384
Actually, Richard, that is the version of Microsoft Windows Vista is, just
as Windows XP is "Microsoft Windows XP 5.1.2600".
The version of NTFS in a command prompt on my copy of "Microsoft Windows XP
5.1.2600" is apparently "3.1" ("three decimal one").
At least that is what "fsutil fsinfo ntfsinfo C:" returns to me, right
below the line which reads "NTFS volume xxxxxxxxxxxx", and is labeled
"Version" (which I assume refers to the version of NTFS residing on
"NTFS volume xxxxxxxxxxxx").
If it refers to something else, please properly educate us? After all, you
are a "Microsoft MVP shell user", and should know what it refers to better
than most.
Perhaps, though, it returns something different to you?
Donald
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Richard Urban
Right clicking on the NTFS.sys file and going to the properties/version tab
shows this information:
6.0.5744.16384
Of course, it may just be a place holder till RTM and may change.
--
Regards,
Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)
Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
shows this information:
6.0.5744.16384
Of course, it may just be a place holder till RTM and may change.
--
Regards,
Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)
Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
R
Richard Urban
You are right. It is, in fact, version 3.1 as of this time. Had a brain fart
and was using file version.
My bad!
--
Regards,
Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)
Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
and was using file version.
My bad!
--
Regards,
Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)
Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
S
Steve de Mena
Donald said:The answer is "Yes, it does."
By the way, the version of NTFS in XP is 5.1, not 3.1
If I'm not mistaken, the version of NTFS found in Vista RTM will be
"6.something-or-other".
Donald
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NTFS is the same in Vista as it was in XP, and 3.1
is the actual version number.
Steve
S
Steve de Mena
larry23 said:So all-in-all to get from WinXP's NTFS 5.x to Vista's NTFS 6.x - does this
require a full reformat? Or is 6.x simply the TxF we were posting earlier
that turns any WinXP NTFS 5.1 to Vista's NTFS 6.x automatically?
No change in NTFS, nothing to upgrade.
Steve
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