Does vista business makes sense?

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PSiegmann

Hi newsgroup.

I thought about buying vista business (update), since it's much
cheaper than ultimate.

But, I am a home user. The reason why I don't want home premium: I
develop in asp.net, and I need IIS.

So, I have a few questions about the business version:

Media Center is not included, right?
Is the games explorer included?
Is the appearance the same as vista premium & ultimate?
Is the 64 bit disk included with the upgrade version, or have I to
order it?

Can I upgrade from business to ultimate with anytime upgrade?

Is there some reason to go with vista ultimate, even if you don't need
Media Center but you need IIS? (Besides the Vista Ultimate extras,
like dreamscene. I think I can survive without it)
 
R

Rock

Hi newsgroup.

I thought about buying vista business (update), since it's much
cheaper than ultimate.

But, I am a home user. The reason why I don't want home premium: I
develop in asp.net, and I need IIS.

So, I have a few questions about the business version:

Media Center is not included, right?
Correct

Is the games explorer included?
Yes

Is the appearance the same as vista premium & ultimate?
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Yes the UI is the same
Is the 64 bit disk included with the upgrade version, or have I to
order it?
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Yes the 64bit disk comes in all retail full and upgrade packages. Only one
version can be installed at the same time. It uses the same product key.
Can I upgrade from business to ultimate with anytime upgrade?
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Yes though it costs more to go to Business and then the anytime upgrade to
Ultimate then directly to Ultimate.
Is there some reason to go with vista ultimate, even if you don't need
Media Center but you need IIS? (Besides the Vista Ultimate extras,
like dreamscene. I think I can survive without it)
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Don't know, probably not.
 
K

Keith Patrick

FYI, even ASP.Net is screwed up under Vista. I have to use file-based web
sites under VS2005 because there's an interesting bug where neither the
Windows Features UI nor the regiis command line function will install it
(has something to do with updating XP).


Don't install Vista if you just want the eye candy. Seriously, I was
formerly a very loyal MS person (and their fundamentals, like .Net and Vista
security, are very good), but Vista belongs in the hall of shame with WinME
and Bob. The usability problems with it are bad and widespread enough that
you will be cursing MS many times a week.
 
P

PSiegmann

Thanks.

Now, another question:

What about OEM:

If I buy 32 bit business OEM, can I install with the key that comes
with it the 64 bit version? (Assume, that I never activate the 32 bit
version).
 
P

PSiegmann

FYI, even ASP.Net is screwed up under Vista. I have to use file-based web
sites under VS2005 because there's an interesting bug where neither the
Windows Features UI nor the regiis command line function will install it
(has something to do with updating XP).
Click to expand...


I plan to make clean-install. It's possible with a trick even with the
update versions.
 
B

Bruce Chambers

Hi newsgroup.

I thought about buying vista business (update), since it's much
cheaper than ultimate.

But, I am a home user. The reason why I don't want home premium: I
develop in asp.net, and I need IIS.

So, I have a few questions about the business version:

Media Center is not included, right?
Correct.

Is the games explorer included?
Click to expand...

Yes, but it's not installed by default.
Is the appearance the same as vista premium & ultimate?
Yes.

Is the 64 bit disk included with the upgrade version, or have I to
order it?

Unknown.


Can I upgrade from business to ultimate with anytime upgrade?

Yes.


Is there some reason to go with vista ultimate, even if you don't need
Media Center but you need IIS? (Besides the Vista Ultimate extras,
like dreamscene. I think I can survive without it)
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Not that I know of; I'm quite happy using Vista Business.


--

Bruce Chambers

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They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. -Bertrand Russell
 
R

Rock

Thanks.

Now, another question:

What about OEM:

If I buy 32 bit business OEM, can I install with the key that comes
with it the 64 bit version? (Assume, that I never activate the 32 bit
version).
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I misspoke the first time. Vista Ultimate, full and upgrade, comes with
both DVDs. For the other Vista versions retail full and upgrade comes with
32bit DVD and a coupon to send for the 64bit DVD for a shipping charge. OEM
only comes in the one flavor you buy, 32bit or 64bit. There is no coupon or
free way to get the DVD for the other version.
 
P

PSiegmann

I misspoke the first time. Vista Ultimate, full and upgrade, comes with
both DVDs. For the other Vista versions retail full and upgrade comes with
32bit DVD and a coupon to send for the 64bit DVD for a shipping charge. OEM
only comes in the one flavor you buy, 32bit or 64bit. There is no coupon or
free way to get the DVD for the other version.
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What happens if I have business 32 bit and want to any-time-upgrade to
ultimate 64?
 
X

XS11E

Rock said:
I misspoke the first time. Vista Ultimate, full and upgrade,
comes with both DVDs. For the other Vista versions retail full
and upgrade comes with 32bit DVD and a coupon to send for the
64bit DVD for a shipping charge. OEM only comes in the one flavor
you buy, 32bit or 64bit. There is no coupon or free way to get
the DVD for the other version.
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Seems to me I recall a post here mentioning that the OEM could be
contacted about changing 32 bit to 64 bit and that some PC
manufacturers would do that?

If one has the OEM version of Vista 32 and wants Vista 64, I can't see
any harm in asking the OEM.
 
S

Shane Nokes

WinME was a stable OS.

I installed it on tons of customer machines & had very few issues.

Then again most of my customers were people with that rare commodity called
common sense.

They kept their system up to date & had proper virus scanning software & did
not engage in risky practices with their PC's.

BOB on the other hand was never an OS.

It was an application designed to provide a low functionality shell for
children that parents could control.

It's failure was a commercial failure, not a programming one.


Why do people always bring up ME & BOB when neither are relevant to the
conversation at hand. If you think Vista has issues then post them, don't
spout off with nonsense.
 
P

PSiegmann

IIS is included with Home Premium, you just need to install IIS.

Installing IIS 7.0 on Windows Vista Home Premiumhttp://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsserver/en/library/86026b03-18b0-...
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Oh, great. So, is there even a point in using business or ultimate,
when you're a developer?
 
R

Rock

"XS11E" wrote
Seems to me I recall a post here mentioning that the OEM could be
contacted about changing 32 bit to 64 bit and that some PC
manufacturers would do that?

If one has the OEM version of Vista 32 and wants Vista 64, I can't see
any harm in asking the OEM.
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Sure one can always ask, but the OP is not looking to by a computer with
Vista preinstalled by the manufacturer, he wants to buy a version of Vista
for the current system, either OEM or Retail.
 
A

Adam Albright

Do you need VISTA's Fax & Scan -- that's only in Business and Ultimate.
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One other minor point, the only reason I got the Business version,
with it you can do an install in place, you can't with Home Premium.
 
X

XS11E

Rock said:
"XS11E" wrote

Sure one can always ask, but the OP is not looking to by a
computer with Vista preinstalled by the manufacturer, he wants to
buy a version of Vista for the current system, either OEM or
Retail.
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Than asking won't do much good. I should have gone back farther to the
OP!
 
G

Guest

Well, if you need to be able to join a domain, or experiment with the effects
of policies on the software you're writing...
 

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