Does Live.com HAVE to keep a duplicate of my folders?

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BudV

Running OL2007 under Vista Home Premium SP2.

I'm sure I've seen an option to (not) leave my email on the server, but now
that I'm looking for it, it's nowhere to be found. It's my understanding
that leaving stuff "out there" makes synchronization necessary, and it also
clogs up sending/receiving (stop me when I go wrong here). We don't need to
access our mail folders from other computers, so having said that, I think I
could streamline our operation here by "moving" rather than "copying" stuff
from the remote folders, especially since there is a lack of discipline here
regarding moving mail to local folders, despite the advantage of
categorization.

Am I making any sense? Is this a good or a bad idea? I'd appreciate your
opinions.
 
D

Diane Poremsky [MVP]

If you are using the connector to sync the live folders, it creates a copy
of the folders on your local drive. This allows you to view your mail from
anyway, even several different computers. There is no option to delete from
the server when you use the connector.

If you want to delete it from the server you need to switch to POP3.
Incoming server name: pop3.live.com
Outgoing server: smtp.live.com

While setting up the account, click on the More Settings button and on
Outgoing Mail Servers tab, select the My server requires authentication box.
Most people will need to use the default option of Use same settings as my
incoming server.

Click the Advanced tab, and under Server Port Numbers, enter the following
information:
· In the Incoming mail (POP3) box, type 995.
· In the Outgoing mail (SMTP) box, type 587.
· Under both Outgoing mail (SMTP) and Incoming mail (POP3), select the
'requires secure connection (SSL)' check box. In Outlook 2007, choose Auto;
use SSL for Outlook 2003
· Under Delivery, select the Leave a copy of messages on server check box if
you want to see your messages when you use Hotmail in a web browser, your
mobile phone, or other e-mail programs. By default, Outlook will delete the
messages from the Hotmail server when they are downloaded to your computer.




--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]

Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com/

Outlook Tips by email:
mailto:[email protected]

EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange:
mailto:[email protected]

Do you sync your mailbox with a smartphone or pda?
http://forums.slipstick.com/showthread.php?t=39473
 
B

BudV

Diane, I think you may have just made our day (meaning my daughter, Holly,
and me).

Everything you said here is very familiar, but with your permission, I would
like to give you some of our recent history, and then I'll ask you if my
understanding is correct. If you answer "yes", you just may hear shouts of
glee from the general direction of Minnesota.

We were ATT customers, and had five mail accounts with them, call them K1,
K2, R1, R2, and T. I took advantage of the OL feature which specifies a
destination folder for each account. I set up local folders for K, R, and T
and used the feature to combine the K's into K, the R's into R, and T went
to T. It was neat and clean, and Holly only needed the three folders in
favorites to do her basic stuff. The folder names were in all caps, and
stood out.
(I should mention at this point that Holly is intelligent and reasonably
computer-literate,
but very emotional, which overrides all other characteristics.)

We recently switched to a Qwest bundle, and during the install, we found
that they
were setting us up with three MAPI-type accounts, and the destination-folder
feature
mentioned above wasn't available and I couldn't use rules to help me out.
This means
that she had to work with messier, similar-looking ("Inbox in (e-mail address removed)")
names
in *lower-case* yet! Since she has a tendency to leave too much stuff in
her inboxes,
it meant extremely long send/receive times. I set up a local "archive"
folder next to
each inbox and asked her to dump the new stuff from the inbox into the
archive. No way!
Too many boxes messing up the favorites pane, too much work, yadda-yadda.

Now it looks as though all I have to is re-setup the mail accounts as
POP3-type the
old fashioned way (I don't think I can use Outlook Connector), set up the
destination folder
feature and corresponding folders with pretty all-caps names, and she'll
have her ATT
environment back. I assume that I don't have to do anything at the server
end -- all
I'm doing is going through a different server to access the same data.

Do I have a handle on everything?


Diane Poremsky said:
If you are using the connector to sync the live folders, it creates a copy
of the folders on your local drive. This allows you to view your mail
from anyway, even several different computers. There is no option to
delete from the server when you use the connector.

If you want to delete it from the server you need to switch to POP3.
Incoming server name: pop3.live.com
Outgoing server: smtp.live.com

While setting up the account, click on the More Settings button and on
Outgoing Mail Servers tab, select the My server requires authentication
box. Most people will need to use the default option of Use same settings
as my incoming server.

Click the Advanced tab, and under Server Port Numbers, enter the following
information:
· In the Incoming mail (POP3) box, type 995.
· In the Outgoing mail (SMTP) box, type 587.
· Under both Outgoing mail (SMTP) and Incoming mail (POP3), select the
'requires secure connection (SSL)' check box. In Outlook 2007, choose
Auto; use SSL for Outlook 2003
· Under Delivery, select the Leave a copy of messages on server check box
if you want to see your messages when you use Hotmail in a web browser,
your mobile phone, or other e-mail programs. By default, Outlook will
delete the messages from the Hotmail server when they are downloaded to
your computer.




--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]

Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com/

Outlook Tips by email:
mailto:[email protected]

EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange:
mailto:[email protected]

Do you sync your mailbox with a smartphone or pda?
http://forums.slipstick.com/showthread.php?t=39473



BudV said:
Running OL2007 under Vista Home Premium SP2.

I'm sure I've seen an option to (not) leave my email on the server, but
now that I'm looking for it, it's nowhere to be found. It's my
understanding that leaving stuff "out there" makes synchronization
necessary, and it also clogs up sending/receiving (stop me when I go
wrong here). We don't need to access our mail folders from other
computers, so having said that, I think I could streamline our operation
here by "moving" rather than "copying" stuff from the remote folders,
especially since there is a lack of discipline here regarding moving mail
to local folders, despite the advantage of categorization.

Am I making any sense? Is this a good or a bad idea? I'd appreciate
your opinions.
 
B

BudV

I couldn't wait, and ran without waiting for an answer.

YOU DID IT! And it was so easy. Holly is all smiles. Thank you so-o-o-o
much!

BudV said:
Diane, I think you may have just made our day (meaning my daughter, Holly,
and me).

Everything you said here is very familiar, but with your permission, I
would
like to give you some of our recent history, and then I'll ask you if my
understanding is correct. If you answer "yes", you just may hear shouts
of
glee from the general direction of Minnesota.

We were ATT customers, and had five mail accounts with them, call them K1,
K2, R1, R2, and T. I took advantage of the OL feature which specifies a
destination folder for each account. I set up local folders for K, R, and
T
and used the feature to combine the K's into K, the R's into R, and T went
to T. It was neat and clean, and Holly only needed the three folders in
favorites to do her basic stuff. The folder names were in all caps, and
stood out.
(I should mention at this point that Holly is intelligent and reasonably
computer-literate,
but very emotional, which overrides all other characteristics.)

We recently switched to a Qwest bundle, and during the install, we found
that they
were setting us up with three MAPI-type accounts, and the
destination-folder feature
mentioned above wasn't available and I couldn't use rules to help me out.
This means
that she had to work with messier, similar-looking ("Inbox in
(e-mail address removed)") names
in *lower-case* yet! Since she has a tendency to leave too much stuff in
her inboxes,
it meant extremely long send/receive times. I set up a local "archive"
folder next to
each inbox and asked her to dump the new stuff from the inbox into the
archive. No way!
Too many boxes messing up the favorites pane, too much work, yadda-yadda.

Now it looks as though all I have to is re-setup the mail accounts as
POP3-type the
old fashioned way (I don't think I can use Outlook Connector), set up the
destination folder
feature and corresponding folders with pretty all-caps names, and she'll
have her ATT
environment back. I assume that I don't have to do anything at the server
end -- all
I'm doing is going through a different server to access the same data.

Do I have a handle on everything?


Diane Poremsky said:
If you are using the connector to sync the live folders, it creates a
copy
of the folders on your local drive. This allows you to view your mail
from anyway, even several different computers. There is no option to
delete from the server when you use the connector.

If you want to delete it from the server you need to switch to POP3.
Incoming server name: pop3.live.com
Outgoing server: smtp.live.com

While setting up the account, click on the More Settings button and on
Outgoing Mail Servers tab, select the My server requires authentication
box. Most people will need to use the default option of Use same settings
as my incoming server.

Click the Advanced tab, and under Server Port Numbers, enter the
following
information:
· In the Incoming mail (POP3) box, type 995.
· In the Outgoing mail (SMTP) box, type 587.
· Under both Outgoing mail (SMTP) and Incoming mail (POP3), select the
'requires secure connection (SSL)' check box. In Outlook 2007, choose
Auto; use SSL for Outlook 2003
· Under Delivery, select the Leave a copy of messages on server check box
if you want to see your messages when you use Hotmail in a web browser,
your mobile phone, or other e-mail programs. By default, Outlook will
delete the messages from the Hotmail server when they are downloaded to
your computer.




--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]

Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com/

Outlook Tips by email:
mailto:[email protected]

EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange:
mailto:[email protected]

Do you sync your mailbox with a smartphone or pda?
http://forums.slipstick.com/showthread.php?t=39473



BudV said:
Running OL2007 under Vista Home Premium SP2.

I'm sure I've seen an option to (not) leave my email on the server, but
now that I'm looking for it, it's nowhere to be found. It's my
understanding that leaving stuff "out there" makes synchronization
necessary, and it also clogs up sending/receiving (stop me when I go
wrong here). We don't need to access our mail folders from other
computers, so having said that, I think I could streamline our operation
here by "moving" rather than "copying" stuff from the remote folders,
especially since there is a lack of discipline here regarding moving
mail
to local folders, despite the advantage of categorization.

Am I making any sense? Is this a good or a bad idea? I'd appreciate
your opinions.
 

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