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Guest
does anyone know of a good site that shows how to dismantel a hard drive and
remount the platters in another drive
thank you
remount the platters in another drive
thank you
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NoConsequence
1. Why ask here? What does this have to do with the OS?
2. Can it be done? Sure. Do you have the clean room environment to
do it? Doubtful.
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Malke
NoConsequence said:
You've been asked before to stop net-nannying in this group. It isn't
wanted. You seem to have a need to give snide, mean answers.
To the OP - "No Consequence" is quite correct in that a clean-room
environment would be necessary to remove hard drive platters. This is
one of the reasons why professional data recovery companies get the big
bucks. This is not something an end user can do.
You may be thinking of replacing the logic board rather than the
platters. You need an exact match on the second hard drive and even then
it will take quite a bit of skill. If the data that you are apparently
trying to retrieve is important, contact a professional data recovery
company like Drive Savers - http://www.drivesavers.com.
Malke
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Noozer
Jack said:
1) Not possible
2) Wrong place to ask.
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NoConsequence
Aren't you trying to net-nanny by telling me to go away? How is you
telling me to stop any different than me telling them to stop?
Hypocrit.
As for my answers, grow thicker skin. Frankly, I grow tired of OT
after OT post clogging up the group. They don't go away, and usually
the only way to get them to stop is a sharp slap to the face.
M
Michael W. Ryder
NoConsequence said:
They just get replaced by others so your Nazi tactics are wasted and all
you do is add to the "noise" in this group. As I stated before, if you
don't like a thread ignore it, it is really very easy if you learn how
to use a newsreader.
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NoConsequence
it's easy to ignore a post from a specific person by filtering it.
It's harder when they posts keep coming from different posters, with
different headers, etc.
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Michael W. Ryder
NoConsequence said:
You know, it takes me a couple of seconds to scan all of the new threads
in this newsgroup, or most others, to see if there is anything that
interests me. If I don't see anything I mark all the messages as read
and continue to the next group. I don't waste my time posting nasty
messages about posts being "off topic". And because of this others
don't have to waste their time reading through them to see if there is
anything of value.
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JohnO
Aren't you trying to net-nanny by telling me to go away? How is you
It's spelled hypocrite. And it's different because you are making the
initial OT accusation. Then you start a "no I'm not, you are" argument. (ok
so we're dealing with a blockhead...)
This group's topics have been consistent for at least few years, and if MS
had a problem with the content they would handle it directly, no? Unless you
can provide Microsoft's group description that explains what's on- and
off-topic, you probably should save your valuable time (ha!) and just ignore
posts that, in your solitary opinion, are off-topic. This group is generally
genial and rambles every so often. It's a good place. It doesn't need an
anonymous poster chasing help-seekers away. And I don't believe MS is
conserving newsgroup server space this week.
So, can you prove your topic position? Your opinion is meaningless, give us
facts.
-John O
It's spelled hypocrite. And it's different because you are making the
initial OT accusation. Then you start a "no I'm not, you are" argument. (ok
so we're dealing with a blockhead...)
This group's topics have been consistent for at least few years, and if MS
had a problem with the content they would handle it directly, no? Unless you
can provide Microsoft's group description that explains what's on- and
off-topic, you probably should save your valuable time (ha!) and just ignore
posts that, in your solitary opinion, are off-topic. This group is generally
genial and rambles every so often. It's a good place. It doesn't need an
anonymous poster chasing help-seekers away. And I don't believe MS is
conserving newsgroup server space this week.
So, can you prove your topic position? Your opinion is meaningless, give us
facts.
-John O
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paulmd
<damn Google Groups, I can't see original post, only replies, which
have degenerated into a shouting match>
To answer the OP's question: no, there aren't many sites that show you
how to do this, and as hard drives vary, their use is limited. From my
own experience, I've dismantled a few drives with the sole intent of
harvesting the nice magnets. It's not that hard to remove the cover,
but there are usually screws hidden under the label, and there's also
a seal that needs to be broken. it can be pried up with a flatblade
screwdriver. After that, it gets harder, and it's super easy to
scratch or smudge the platters. I don't care, since I just want the
magnets. there's a swing arm that can be pulled clear of the platters,
in theory anyway. I'd estimate a high chance of damaging the platters
in the process. If you don't actually care about the data, and have
some old drives to burn, knock yourself out. It'll probably take a few
practice runs to get it right.
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Raymond J. Johnson Jr.
JohnO said:
Right now there are six posts (including this one) in this thread that
wouldn't be here if Malke had minded his (or her) own business.
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JohnO
Right now there are six posts (including this one) in this thread that
I really don't intend to add to this...but what do you believe should be the
appropriate response when "No C" chases people away for bogus reasons?
John O
I really don't intend to add to this...but what do you believe should be the
appropriate response when "No C" chases people away for bogus reasons?
John O
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Raymond J. Johnson Jr.
No response at all? Now there are 8 unnecessary posts.JohnO said:
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JohnO
No response at all? Now there are 8 unnecessary posts.
You paying by the post, or something? Who cares how many posts are in this
thread?
Once the number hits 200, then we're talking unnecessary. <jk>
A group like this one is visited by a lot of first-timers, by definition
people who need help with their computers. There are a lot of smart people
answering questions here, the message volume is healthy but not out of
control, and the mood is generally genial. It's a good place to stick around
and learn from others while sharing specialized knowledge.
I've been involved in MS newsgroups for almost ten years, and IME allowing a
goof like "No C" to go unchallenged prevents lurkers from making that first
post, makes OPs feel unwelcome for no good reason, changes the mood of the
group, and unnecessarily reduces the number of questions asked and problems
solved. If that's what you're after...then ignore it. As a result of this
thread it's obvious to me that there's no point in asking it to back up its
claims, so that will end here. A simple comment to the OP will suffice. No
flame wars, no endless discussions, no distractions.
It's spring break here...I wonder if that explains the inactivity by "No C."
-John O
You paying by the post, or something? Who cares how many posts are in this
thread?
Once the number hits 200, then we're talking unnecessary. <jk>A group like this one is visited by a lot of first-timers, by definition
people who need help with their computers. There are a lot of smart people
answering questions here, the message volume is healthy but not out of
control, and the mood is generally genial. It's a good place to stick around
and learn from others while sharing specialized knowledge.
I've been involved in MS newsgroups for almost ten years, and IME allowing a
goof like "No C" to go unchallenged prevents lurkers from making that first
post, makes OPs feel unwelcome for no good reason, changes the mood of the
group, and unnecessarily reduces the number of questions asked and problems
solved. If that's what you're after...then ignore it. As a result of this
thread it's obvious to me that there's no point in asking it to back up its
claims, so that will end here. A simple comment to the OP will suffice. No
flame wars, no endless discussions, no distractions.
It's spring break here...I wonder if that explains the inactivity by "No C."
-John O
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FeMaster
NoConsequence said:
Not to add to the crap, but perhaps you didn't notice the last word in the
groups name; or maybe just forgot which group you were in...?
Did the OP even know a clean room was required for such an "operation"?
Probably not. Your post would have been more effective had you indicated to
the OP that it was a requirement, instead of your worthless sarcasm.
Just for the record, I have taken apart a newer SATA HD, put it back
together, and have had no ill effects from doing so. While it wasn't apart
for long (maybe 10-minutes at most,) nor did I remove anything (platters),
it was put back together and put back into service as a secondary drive.
STORY: This was only done because I was under the impression that the HD was
bad as it wouldn't spin up completely. It later turned out that the power
supply had gone bad and wasn't providing adequate power to spin up the unit.
In any case, this HD has been operating this way for over 6-months now with
no issues. There are filters inside of any modern HD (maybe even older
units) that will filter the air inside the unit. The motion of the spinning
platters causes the air inside to circulate through these filters, thus
aiding in removing any particulates or dust that may make their way into the
units during production. Even "clean rooms" aren't perfectly clean, it's
utterly impossible...
Unfortunately, images of HD's insides generally don't have the filters
present in the pictures, but here are a couple of examples or the filters:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/byronza/Hitachi/Hitachi_500_09.jpg
Upper left corner
http://www2.grynx.com/wp/projects/Things that you can do with 20 hard drives/IMG_4978.JPG
Upper left corner again.
http://www.hardware.info/images/news/hitachideskstare7k500.jpg
And again, left corner...
More information about the workings of and the inside of a HD can be found
here:
http://www.pcdoctor-guide.com/wordpress/?p=595
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NoConsequence
Yea, it says hardware. However, before that, it says windowsxp. Put
that together and you have a group about XP and it's interaction with
hardware.
Now explain to me how taking apart a hard drive relates to that? You
can't because it has absolutely NOTHING to do with XP; thus it is out
of place in THIS group.
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FeMaster
NoConsequence said:
Well, if he has XP installed on the HD he's trying to salvage, I'd say that
would be good enough to qualify. Or, even if he plans to use the salvaged
data on a computer with XP, that would qualify too. I'd say it has NEARLY
EVERYTHING to do with the group...
Happy policing...
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JohnO
That's one interpretation.
Does the owner of this group have one, as well?
I mean, it would be a stretch to imagine that the owner of the group leaves
its definition --as well as the policing of its content-- to some anonymous
poster...ya think?
-John O
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NoConsequence
MS runs the server, yes. They do nothing to monitor the content -
that's up to the users.
I'm just trying to be some order to the chaos........