Disk defrag for XP

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Daniel Kaplan

Two part question:

Curious, can the Disk Defrager that comes with XP Home run inthe Normal
startupmode? I remember with 98 that wasn't such a good thing. Especially
if the screensaver kicked. So was hoping this was a newer and better
version.

If the above is true, is it possible to set it run on a schedule?
Automatically?

Thanks ahead,

p.s. if you see this in 2000 newsgroup, not a double posting, I have the
same question for 2000
 
Hello Daniel,

The Disk Defragmeter in Windows XP is much better than the ones you might have experienced on
Windows 9X systems. No, it does not restart automatically everytime your screensaver kicks in and it
does a pretty good job at defragmenting the hard disk.

You can also set scheduled tasks to defrag your disk on a regular basis.

How to Automate Disk Defragmenter Using Task Scheduler Tool in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;555098

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kenny said:
the best defrager for XP is perfectdisk 7 by roxco (make sure you have the
latest update)
the XP defrag is limited.
Click to expand...

Perhaps so. But, there is never a real need/requirement to buy, or
install a third party defragger for XP.
 
you are incorrect. MS acknowlages disk fragmentation as a big problem.

The built in one is insuficient.
 
Hello Daniel,

Thank you for using newsgroup!

First, I would like to thanks for all input. I agree with Anando's good
suggestions. You may follow his suggestions to achieve your goal.

For additional related information, please refer to the following articles
in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:
308569: HOW TO: Schedule Tasks in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;308569

314848: How to Defragment Your Disk Drive Volumes in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;314848

283080: Description of the New Command Line Defrag.exe Included with
Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;283080

Thanks & Regards,

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| Two part question:
|
| Curious, can the Disk Defrager that comes with XP Home run inthe Normal
| startupmode? I remember with 98 that wasn't such a good thing.
Especially
| if the screensaver kicked. So was hoping this was a newer and better
| version.
|
| If the above is true, is it possible to set it run on a schedule?
| Automatically?
|
| Thanks ahead,
|
| p.s. if you see this in 2000 newsgroup, not a double posting, I have the
| same question for 2000
|
|
|
|
 
Daniel said:
Two part question:

Curious, can the Disk Defrager that comes with XP Home run inthe
Normal
startupmode? I remember with 98 that wasn't such a good thing.
Especially
if the screensaver kicked. So was hoping this was a newer and better
version.

If the above is true, is it possible to set it run on a schedule?
Automatically?

Thanks ahead,

p.s. if you see this in 2000 newsgroup, not a double posting, I have
the
same question for 2000
Click to expand...

Its best to run the Disk defragmenter that comes with windows in safe
mode to be on the safer side:) to avoid anything at all interrupting
with its job. Also the built in does not defrag the MFT and paging
file, for that you will need third party tools which are also pretty
faster and some of then can be scheduled to run even while the system
is functioning.
check out this link
http://tinyurl.com/9jjg2

the XP defragger (which is actually from the makers of Diskeeper) can
be scheduled to run
http://tinyurl.com/4k6r8
 
Hi Kenchi,

Thanks for your great suggestions!

Thanks & Regards,

Ken Zhao

Microsoft Online Partner Support
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| Subject: Re: Disk defrag for XP
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Daniel said:
Two part question:
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| >
| > Curious, can the Disk Defrager that comes with XP Home run inthe
Normal
Click to expand...
| > startupmode? I remember with 98 that wasn't such a good thing.
Especially
Click to expand...
| > if the screensaver kicked. So was hoping this was a newer and better
| > version.
| >
| > If the above is true, is it possible to set it run on a schedule?
| > Automatically?
| >
| > Thanks ahead,
| >
| > p.s. if you see this in 2000 newsgroup, not a double posting, I have
the
Click to expand...
| > same question for 2000
|
| Its best to run the Disk defragmenter that comes with windows in safe
mode to be on the safer side:) to avoid anything at all interrupting
with its job. Also the built in does not defrag the MFT and paging
file, for that you will need third party tools which are also pretty
faster and some of then can be scheduled to run even while the system
is functioning.
| check out this link
| http://tinyurl.com/9jjg2
|
| the XP defragger (which is actually from the makers of Diskeeper) can
be scheduled to run
| http://tinyurl.com/4k6r8
 
Hi Kenchi,

Thanks for your great suggestions!

Thanks & Regards,

Ken Zhao

Microsoft Online Partner Support
Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security

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| Subject: Re: Disk defrag for XP
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Daniel said:
Two part question:
Click to expand...
| >
| > Curious, can the Disk Defrager that comes with XP Home run inthe
Normal
Click to expand...
| > startupmode? I remember with 98 that wasn't such a good thing.
Especially
Click to expand...
| > if the screensaver kicked. So was hoping this was a newer and better
| > version.
| >
| > If the above is true, is it possible to set it run on a schedule?
| > Automatically?
| >
| > Thanks ahead,
| >
| > p.s. if you see this in 2000 newsgroup, not a double posting, I have
the
Click to expand...
| > same question for 2000
|
| Its best to run the Disk defragmenter that comes with windows in safe
mode to be on the safer side:) to avoid anything at all interrupting
with its job. Also the built in does not defrag the MFT and paging
file, for that you will need third party tools which are also pretty
faster and some of then can be scheduled to run even while the system
is functioning.
| check out this link
| http://tinyurl.com/9jjg2
|
| the XP defragger (which is actually from the makers of Diskeeper) can
be scheduled to run
| http://tinyurl.com/4k6r8
 
Hi Daniel,

The Disk Defragmenter tool is based on the full retail version of Diskeeper
by Executive Software International, Inc. The version that is included with
Microsoft Windows 2000 and later provides limited functionality in
maintaining disk performance by defragmenting volumes that use the FAT, the
FAT32, or the NTFS file system. I do not think it means the tool is no good
even though there are some limitations of Disk Defragmenter tool in Windows
XP. For related information, you may refer to:

227463: Disk Defragmenter Limitations in Windows 2000, Windows XP, and
Windows Server 2003
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;227463

For additional information about the limitations of Disk Defragmenter and
improvements in Windows XP, visit the following Microsoft Web site:
<http://msdn.microsoft.com/msdnmag/issues/01/12/xpkernel/default.aspx>

Hope that help!

Thanks & Regards,

Ken Zhao

Microsoft Online Partner Support
Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security

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| Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
| References: <[email protected]>
<[email protected]> <[email protected]>
| Subject: Re: Disk defrag for XP
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| | >
| > Thanks for your great suggestions!
| >
|
| well geez! if kenchi's suggestions are right, that would mean that the
| built in defrager is no good.
|
|
|
 
Ken said:
Hi Daniel,

The Disk Defragmenter tool is based on the full retail version of Diskeeper
by Executive Software International, Inc. The version that is included with
Microsoft Windows 2000 and later provides limited functionality in
maintaining disk performance by defragmenting volumes that use the FAT, the
FAT32, or the NTFS file system. I do not think it means the tool is no good
even though there are some limitations of Disk Defragmenter tool in Windows
XP. For related information, you may refer to:

227463: Disk Defragmenter Limitations in Windows 2000, Windows XP, and
Windows Server 2003
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;227463

For additional information about the limitations of Disk Defragmenter and
improvements in Windows XP, visit the following Microsoft Web site:
<http://msdn.microsoft.com/msdnmag/issues/01/12/xpkernel/default.aspx>

Hope that help!

Thanks & Regards,

Ken Zhao

Microsoft Online Partner Support
Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security

=====================================================
When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so
that others may learn and benefit from your issue.
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| | >
| > Thanks for your great suggestions!
| >
|
| well geez! if kenchi's suggestions are right, that would mean that the
| built in defrager is no good.
|
|
|
Click to expand...
 
I have xp formatted fat32 defrag32.exe (not the virus) runs when the system
is idle. it is not a "scheduled task" it just runs. How do I turn the silly
thing off? I have gone so far as renaming it and it just keeps coming back.
It makes me crazy!

Thanks.
Marti Millington
 
martisiq said:
Great, now that I know WHY it does it, can anyone tell me how to turn
if OFF!!!!
Click to expand...

What do you have in your Scheduled Tasks? If you have some sort of "PC
Tune-up", there's your culprit. I have 6 Windows XP boxen and none of
them run a defrag unless I tell them to.

Malke
 
It is apparently NOT a defrag but an auto optimization which Microsoft
decided we all need and so put it in XP. It runs EVERYTIME my system is idle
and it is making me NUTS! I have NOTHING in my scheduled tasks and I use NO
tune-up of any kind. I want my system to do what I want, WHEN I want, and not
when XP THINKs it needs to be done.

AGAIN, I plead - HOW DO I TURN IT OFF - OR CAN I ????

martisiq
 

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