Disappearing Downloads

[rwolcott]

Everything I try to download disappears into limbo somewhere. It doesn't
matter if I save it to a folder or tell it to "Run". When I search for the
files they can't be found. I am the only administrator on this system.
rwolcott1
Dell XPS 400
Pentium D duel core 2.8G

 

[rwolcott]

I forgot: I'm running RC1 build 5600 but this started in build 5384

 

[Richard Urban]

There is a hidden folder in your Temporary Internet Files named
"Virtualized).

Look for it in there please.

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Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

 

[Jane C]

Show hidden files and folders, and unhide protected operating system files.

 

[Gary MCSE]

There is no Temporary Internet Files Folder...Thorough Search found no
resuklts.

Gary MCSE

 

[Chris Moore]

Is this Protected mode of IE 7 causing this behaviour? Surely there has to
be a better way to be able to handle downloads. I get access denied type
errors everytime I try to put something in C:\Downloads, etc and it always
ends up in the virtualized folder which is hardly accessible.

Is there something to switch this off other than turning off Protected mode?
Can you specify a folder for your downloads or something that Windows/IE
will use as a trusted repository?

Thanks

Chris

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[Jane C]

Internet Options > Advanced tab > security section, uncheck 'check for
signatures on downloaded programs'. That should stop your downloads being
sandboxed They will then go to where you want them to go. I have mine
all point to the downloads folder under my username.

 

[Richard Urban]

There is no Temporary Internet Files Folder...Thorough Search found no
resuklts.

Gary MCSE

An MCSE doesn't know about hidden system files and folders???

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Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
Posted via Vista RC2, 5744

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Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

 

[Clark]

Jane, I am sorry, but I don't believe what you say is completely accurate.
Why, because I just downloaded Firefox using IE and it went to my download
folder. I do not have the changes you suggest in force. The only file that
I have downloaded that went to the Virtualized folder was the Vista .iso
file when using the Akamai download manager. The last time I used it, the
destination folder was kept open so the file could be found and moved.

It also should be noted that the way the path is displayed, there is not
always room for the entire path. So when you see "C\You\Download", it may
be "C:\Users\You\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\Temporary Internet
Files\Virtualized\C\You\Downloads" and most folks won't notice the
difference.

I certainly can't say that a file without a signature will not be sandboxed,
but I haven't seen one. If you know of a file that would be downloaded the
way you suggest, please advise so I can try it.

Clark

 

[Richard Urban]

Jane, I am sorry, but I don't believe what you say is completely accurate.
Why, because I just downloaded Firefox using IE and it went to my download
folder. I do not have the changes you suggest in force. The only file
that I have downloaded that went to the Virtualized folder was the Vista
.iso file when using the Akamai download manager. The last time I used
it, the destination folder was kept open so the file could be found and
moved.

It also should be noted that the way the path is displayed, there is not
always room for the entire path. So when you see "C\You\Download", it may
be "C:\Users\You\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\Temporary Internet
Files\Virtualized\C\You\Downloads" and most folks won't notice the
difference.

I certainly can't say that a file without a signature will not be
sandboxed, but I haven't seen one. If you know of a file that would be
downloaded the way you suggest, please advise so I can try it.

Clark

Well, seeing as how this is a condition set up through Internet Explorer 7,
I can understand why Firefox downloads to any folder you choose.

Some may call it an advantage. I would call it an aberration of the security
that Microsoft is trying to build into the operating system.



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Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
Posted via Vista RC2, 5744

(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

 

[Richard Urban]

Oops! Upon re-reading your post I retrace my previous comments. It seems you
downloaded Firefox and it went to the folder of your choice.

Did you download Firefox under Vista or Windows XP, using IE7?

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Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

 

[Clark]

Something I just noticed when I downloaded the nVidia driver. The file went
to the correct location, but I saw a box pop up after the download was
completed that I think said something about folders with strange names. It
was so quick I could not read what was being stated. Maybe what you say is
right, in that the file is being sandboxed, but then automatically moved to
the correct folder after some type of check is done. The folder names were
not "Virtualized" but some random type name. The Akamai download manager
uses a specific folder name and does not move the file automatically, but
did leave a window open if you allowed it to.

Clark

 

[Jeff]

Umm,
Yo Clark,
Let me start by saying;
Jane is completely accurate in what she said.
IE7 will sandbox downloads; and specifically check said download for a
valid digital signature
If it finds;while checking;that the digital signature isn't valid--POOF--
gone daddy gone.
Here's the best part; and you might remember this;( Richard for
sure;better remember this. LOL
Back awhile ago; when Office '07 came out; I found out the hard way.
IE7 let me download(supposedly) Office '07. All 440+ mb of it.
except for the last 2 or 3 mbs;can't remember.
Anyway IE7 took forever;it said it was verifying the download;
then--POOF-gone
Office 2007 gone. Gone faster than normal deleting 440mb. POOF-vaporized.
Seems it didn't have a digisig, and IE7 vistatized it!!--LOL
Too funny;and embarrassing to MSFT;their own program;no digital signature.
Trust me; it was IE7 sandboxing;was funny with office "07;once.
After twice; it got annoying.

Jeff

 

[Richard Urban]

Umm,
Yo Clark,
Let me start by saying;
Jane is completely accurate in what she said.
IE7 will sandbox downloads; and specifically check said download for a
valid digital signature
If it finds;while checking;that the digital signature isn't valid--POOF--
gone daddy gone.
Here's the best part; and you might remember this;( Richard for
sure;better remember this. LOL
Back awhile ago; when Office '07 came out; I found out the hard way.
IE7 let me download(supposedly) Office '07. All 440+ mb of it.
except for the last 2 or 3 mbs;can't remember.
Anyway IE7 took forever;it said it was verifying the download;
then--POOF-gone
Office 2007 gone. Gone faster than normal deleting 440mb. POOF-vaporized.
Seems it didn't have a digisig, and IE7 vistatized it!!--LOL
Too funny;and embarrassing to MSFT;their own program;no digital signature.
Trust me; it was IE7 sandboxing;was funny with office "07;once.
After twice; it got annoying.

Jeff

If the file doesn't verify, because of corruption, signature, being
incomplete or being tampered with (yes, I know you got it from Microsoft),
why would you want to save it?

This action is also going to go a long way in helping us keep our computers
clean of "crap". I know of more than a few people who have had their
computers taken over by the contents of a "modified" file.


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Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
Posted via Vista RC2, 5744

(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

 

[Jeff]

Richard;
I didn't save it.
I was referring to what IE7 does.
And;it was because of Office '07 not having a digisig.
They since;have corrected that; I assume; remember;even though it may seem
long ago; it about 2/3 months only.
And I agree; it's helpful.
Just was 'splaining ; that's all.

Jeff

 

[Richard Urban]

Richard;
I didn't save it.
I was referring to what IE7 does.
And;it was because of Office '07 not having a digisig.
They since;have corrected that; I assume; remember;even though it may seem
long ago; it about 2/3 months only.
And I agree; it's helpful.
Just was 'splaining ; that's all.

Jeff

Oh! OK then.


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Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
Posted via Vista RC2, 5744

(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

 

[rwolcott]

Thank you all. I've tried the suggestions to no avail. All I am trying to do
is get some Vista drivers for my video card. Perhaps a solution will become
available in the near future.

 

[Jeff]

RW,
What drivers?
And; real quick; at the download;if it gives the opportunity to save/run;
save.

Jeff

 

[Jeff]

Ooops,
Didn't read the bottom of your post.
Sorry!

Jeff

 

[Pier Rodelon]

Is this then simply dodging a "safeguard" that IE7 is trying to build in?
If so, is this a good idea? Or is there a better way?