Digital Video Camera Not Detected

P

Pat O

I have install a 1394 FireWire Adapter which my computer
recognizes and indicates that it is working. However
when I plug my Panasonic Digital Video Camera into the
system, the camera is not recognized.

Help
 
C

Cari \(MS MVP\)

Is the camcorder:-

Turned on?
In VCR Mode?
Powered by A/C and NOT its internal battery?
 
G

Guest

Vista Home Premium on my HP laptop will not recognize the firewire connection
to Sony Digital Video cameras. Have tried a MS workaround editing the
registry on KB but this does not work either. Yes the camera is turned on
correctly etc. as it hooks up straight away to a desktop running XP.
Any clues to making this work?
 
G

Guest

Yes Cari as far as I can determine from Device manager. I have uninstalled
firewire port and on reboot it is reinstalled. I don't have any other devices
to try on it.
 
C

Cari \(MS-MVP\)

Ask a friend who also has a digital camcorder if you can borrow his/hers for
half an hour or so and see if that one works on your notebook.
 
G

Guest

I am not sure if I have the same problem, but the symptoms are similar. I
have Windows Vista 64 Ultimate and purchased the Pinnacle 1394 card since it
was listed as compatible on the HCL. I did this because the 2 other 1394
cards I had exhibited the behavior described below - 1394 Host Controller
device recognized, drivers installed, but no devices are recognized when
attached. I have tried (3) firewire cards, (2) motherboards, (2) operating
systems (Windows XP SP2 and Vista 64 Ultimate), (5) cables, (2) ipods, and a
sony DV camcorder and none of the permutations work. Based on all the
research I have performed to date, the closest I can come to an answer is
that windows XP SP2 and higher seem to have more strictly implemented the
1394 specification. I am certain at one time I did have one 1394 device
working on windows XP, so I am betting it was pre-SP2.

I am at my wits end and very frustrated since I have invested a great deal
of time and money building this system according to the Vista HCL and would
therefore expect it to 'just work'.

Sorry to vent, but I am anxious to find a solution.

mark
 
T

tmoran

I am not sure if I have the same problem, but the symptoms are similar. I
have Windows Vista 64 Ultimate and purchased the Pinnacle 1394 card since it
was listed as compatible on the HCL. I did this because the 2 other 1394
cards I had exhibited the behavior described below - 1394 Host Controller
device recognized, drivers installed, but no devices are recognized when
attached. I have tried (3) firewire cards, (2) motherboards, (2) operating
systems (Windows XP SP2 and Vista 64 Ultimate), (5) cables, (2) ipods, and a
sony DV camcorder and none of the permutations work. Based on all the
research I have performed to date, the closest I can come to an answer is
that windows XP SP2 and higher seem to have more strictly implemented the
1394 specification. I am certain at one time I did have one 1394 device
working on windows XP, so I am betting it was pre-SP2.

I am at my wits end and very frustrated since I have invested a great deal
of time and money building this system according to the Vista HCL and would
therefore expect it to 'just work'.

Sorry to vent, but I am anxious to find a solution.

mark






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After spending much of last Sunday trying to get Windows Movie Maker
on Vista to recognize the Sony TVR900 attached via firewire, I had WMM
running and was updating the anti-virus software when all of a sudden
a window popped up saying the camcorder was there. I then download
and edited a short tape. On Monday and Tuesday it worked. Today I
tried again and it again fails to recognize the camcorder's presence.
This is a 4 month old machine, the firewire has always worked (with an
external hard drive), the wire is plugged in solidly, the camcorder is
running on AC, I've tried turning the camcorder off and on while in
WMM, or turning it on then starting the computer and going into WMM.
I did the MS registry tweak about enumerating direwire devices. Does
it just not work on Thursdays? Will it work next Sunday night? What
is wrong?
 
G

Guest

I bought a Canon XHA1 camera and when it is plugged into the Firewire on the
computer, I get the ding-dong sound, and it appears in the device manager
fine.
However it does not show up in "My Computer" and none of my Video Editing
programs can "capture" it. Using XP PRO SP2. The camera is working and
powereds from AC and I tried more than one 1394 cable, but nothing shows up
except in device manager. Any suggestions? Thanks
 
K

karen100

I have been having the same problem with my Sony TRV70. Device Not Found
when using Firewire. USB works fine, but not the 1394 Firewire connection.
I stumbled across this suggestion yesterday, haven't tried it yet, but will
do so soon. It appears to be an issue with SP2 on WinXP. There is a
download hotfix file. The solution makes sense to me, I don't know why it is
not posted in more places, so many people seem to be having this same
problem. If anyone else has tried this fix, please let the rest of us know!

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/885222

When I first discovered the problem in October, I tried starting my computer
with my camcorder attached and it caused me to lose a lot of important ntldr
files and other problems. Since I have already had to start over from
scratch after that mess, I am willing to try this fix... I figure I have
nothing to lose at this point.
 
K

karen100

Disregard my previous post (shown below). I downloaded the Microsoft hotfix
and I still cannot use my Firewire to connect my Sony camcorder.
 
L

Les

I have been fighting a similar problem for the past 2 years - Sony DCR-PC1
not recognized when connected to Firewire port.

I went down the route that had worked for some of downgrading drivers to
pre-XP SP2 version, with no effect.

In my case, my camera worked when connected to a Firewire port on a laptop
in the office, but not on either of my 2 home PCs. I tried 3 different
Firewire cards with different chipsets, 3 different cables - no luck.

Recently I tried again, having replaced one of my home PCs. Once again
camera not recognized when connect to Firewire port. I bought yet another
laptop home from the office - everything works fine.

Finally, I thought about the differences between the laptops and my home PCs
- the actual Firewire port. Each of the laptop Firewire ports have been
4-pin, while all of the various cards/cables used at home have been 6-pin -
connected to the camera by various 4-pin to 6-pin cables.

So, I hunted down a $5 Fireire PCI card that has both a 6-pin and an 4-pin
connected. Lo and behold, my camera works when connected to the 4-pin.

I thought that a 6-pin to 4-pin connection was identical except the the
6-pin carries power. Therefore the signal integrity should have been there
for the 4-pin connection.Anyway, this is not a MS issue, but has been
dicussed in this newgroup many times. I hope my experience helps someone
else.

Les
 
K

karen100

Les said:
Finally, I thought about the differences between the laptops and my home PCs
- the actual Firewire port. Each of the laptop Firewire ports have been
4-pin, while all of the various cards/cables used at home have been 6-pin -
connected to the camera by various 4-pin to 6-pin cables.

So, I hunted down a $5 Fireire PCI card that has both a 6-pin and an 4-pin
connected. Lo and behold, my camera works when connected to the 4-pin.

I thought that a 6-pin to 4-pin connection was identical except the the
6-pin carries power. Therefore the signal integrity should have been there
for the 4-pin connection.Anyway, this is not a MS issue, but has been
dicussed in this newgroup many times. I hope my experience helps someone
else.

Les, that explanation makes sense to me. I will try and find a similar pci
card.

I have also read that the Sony camcorder won't work with a firewire port
that is bridged. I am not sure if that is the correct term, but I think it
is meant to refer to a firewire port on the front of the computer that has
the long wires running inside to the pci card that is actually in the back of
the computer. That is how mine is currently set up. So, I will try your way
in a while, once I can locate that kind of pci card.

For clarification, is the small port on the camera 4 pin? So, the new pci
port will match the camera port? Thank you for posting.
 
S

sten.siren

Les, that explanation makes sense to me.  I will try and find a similar pci
card.

I have also read that the Sony camcorder won't work with a firewire port
that is bridged.  I am not sure if that is the correct term, but I thinkit
is meant to refer to a firewire port on the front of the computer that has
the long wires running inside to the pci card that is actually in the backof
the computer.  That is how mine is currently set up.  So, I will try your way
in a while, once I can locate that kind of pci card.

For clarification, is the small port on the camera 4 pin?  So, the new pci
port will match the camera port?   Thank you for posting.

I have the same problem as everyone else in this thread; the firewire
port is existing and working ok in the Device Manager, but it will not
recognise my DVcam (nothing happens, no ding-dong, when I connect the
cam). Everything has been working for me for several years, a JVC
DVcam connected to the Firewire port on a Creative Audigy EX-unit, but
a month ago I did change the mainboard and processor in my computer
and reinstalled XP Pro on the harddisk (still using the same Audigy
and DVCam), and after that the DVCam is not recognised.

Have you other guys found the solution to your problems? Did the 4-pin
to 4-pin cable work for you, karen100?

Sten
 
S

sten.siren

I have the same problem as everyone else in this thread; the firewire
port is existing and working ok in the Device Manager, but it will not
recognise my DVcam (nothing happens, no ding-dong, when I connect the
cam). Everything has been working for me for several years, a JVC
DVcam connected to the Firewire port on a Creative Audigy EX-unit, but
a month ago I did change the mainboard and processor in my computer
and reinstalled XP Pro on the harddisk (still using the same Audigy
and DVCam), and after that the DVCam is not recognised.

Have you other guys found the solution to your problems? Did the 4-pin
to 4-pin cable work for you, karen100?

Sten- Piilota siteerattu teksti -

- Näytä siteerattu teksti -

I already myself got it working: I completely unistalled the Audigy
(both software and hardware); restarted the computer without the
Audigy; reinstalled it and let Windows reinstall all the drivers; and
now I get the ding-ding when connecting the camera!

Don't know what was wrong, but now it works!

Sten
 
K

karen100

I already myself got it working: I completely unistalled the Audigy
(both software and hardware); restarted the computer without the
Audigy; reinstalled it and let Windows reinstall all the drivers; and
now I get the ding-ding when connecting the camera!

Don't know what was wrong, but now it works!

Sten
Hi Sten,

No, I never got my camcorder to be recognized. I wasn't able to install a
new pci card yet, so I just let it go. It was so much trouble to pursue, I
just continued with the slower USB connection. It is encouraging to hear
that your problem was solved. Thanks for posting, at least now I know a
solution IS possible. ... Karen
 
C

chcochipicecream

I am in the same situation of all and tried it. With your recommendation I
have tried to download kb885222 patch however, it's giving me a error message
"access denied". What could be wrong?
 
K

karen100

Sorry... I don't have any idea. I am now considering replacing my camcorder
with a new one. Might not choose Sony next time. Anyway, good luck.
 

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