Did ECS K8M800M2's onboard network die?

[Phillip Pi]

Recently, I was using the computer and surfing on the Web. Then, all the
sudden Windows XP Professional SP2 (all updates) said network cable was
unplugged. I checked the CAT5 ethernet/network cable cable, and it was
fine. I tried another cable, and the onboard network didn't detect it
either. I checked both cables on my old Apple PowerBook G4, and they had
no problems.

I even tried uninstalling, reinstalling, and upgrading the VIA VT823x
PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter (from Windows Update). Also, reinstalled VIA
4in1 Hyperion driver. None of them helped or changed anything that I
noticed.

Does this sound like the onboard network died? I am currently using
wireless USB network which isn't very stable and slow. Thank you in advance
--
Phillip Pi
Senior Software Quality Assurance Analyst
Norton SystemWorks (PC)
Symantec Corporation
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[Yves Leclerc]

Have you recently installed an new USB device? Yesterday, I "witnessed" an
IBM A40 laptop loose all wired network/Internet access when my client
connected a new Canon Prixma iP500 printer. It seems that the printer's USB
connection was/is shorting out the USB controller and that took out the
network with it. By disconnecting this "bad" printer, the network/Internet
came back.


BTW: You should post using a different account, if you do not want support
queries.

 

[Guest]

How many Network Adapters show in Device Manager?

 

[Ant]

I see six. Two of them are virtual and one isn't really a network.

1. 1394 Net Adapter #2
2. Hawking Technologis USB 2.0 Wireless Network Adapter (using it right now)
3. TechniSat DVB-PC TV Star PCI (HDTV tuner)
4. VIA RHine II Fast Ethernet Adapter (the one that no longer sees my cable)
5. VMware Virtual Ethernet Adapter for VMnet1
6. VMware Virtual Ethernet Adapter for VMnet8

How many Network Adapters show in Device Manager?

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[Ant]

On 12/1/2005 1:38 PM PT, Yves Leclerc wrote:

Hmm, the latest one would be an external regular HDD enclosure (Kingwin)
with a Seagate 250 GB HDD (7200 RPM). I was using it before the incident
happened. I didn't unplug and replug either. Right now, it is off.

Have you recently installed an new USB device? Yesterday, I "witnessed" an
IBM A40 laptop loose all wired network/Internet access when my client
connected a new Canon Prixma iP500 printer. It seems that the printer's USB
connection was/is shorting out the USB controller and that took out the
network with it. By disconnecting this "bad" printer, the network/Internet
came back.

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[Guest]

I take it you were Using the VIA and it went down, not just got a message
about an adapter you Weren't using?
Do you have a combo wireless/hardwired router in the mix, also?
You realize the Hyperion drivers have nada to do with your ethernet
adapter; Almost positive they are separate. [4-in-1 is Inf,AGP,RAID, &IDE
Filter]
Do you have the mainboard manual? If so, Ethernet integrated with
SouthBridge, or separate chip? That determines proper drivers.
Check at ECS site if no manual.

 

[di]

How many Network Adapters show in Device Manager?

I had this happen a few times. The fix for me was to shut down and
unplug the main power cord to take all power from the computer for
about 10 sec. Boot up and works fine. I thought my on board was shot
too but that got it going. Had to do it maybe 2 times in the last
year.

 

[Ant]

I had this happen a few times. The fix for me was to shut down and
unplug the main power cord to take all power from the computer for
about 10 sec. Boot up and works fine. I thought my on board was shot
too but that got it going. Had to do it maybe 2 times in the last
year.

I turn off my machine when I am not using it for a few hours. So, that
didn't work. Thanks for the suggestion though.
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[Ant]

I take it you were Using the VIA and it went down, not just got a message
about an adapter you Weren't using?

Yep. Using the Internet, got disconnected, and then saw "A network cable
is unplugged" error. Then, later added a wireless network device so I
could use the Internet.

Do you have a combo wireless/hardwired router in the mix, also?

Sort of. I am using an old Netgear RT311 router as my gateway and DHCP
server. There is a Netgear DS108 hub (8 ports) connected to it that
collect network cables for connections. That includes a Linksys WAP11 WAP.

You realize the Hyperion drivers have nada to do with your ethernet
adapter; Almost positive they are separate. [4-in-1 is Inf,AGP,RAID, &IDE
Filter]

Yes. I already downloaded the latest network driver from Windows
Updates. Even newer than the one on EPS' Web site.

Do you have the mainboard manual? If so, Ethernet integrated with
SouthBridge, or separate chip? That determines proper drivers.

Manual said SouthBridge.

Check at ECS site if no manual.

http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWeb/Downlo...l&DetailDesc=K8M800-M2(2.0)&MenuID=35&LanID=9
or http://tinyurl.com/8ytxf FYI.

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[Ant]

I turn off my machine when I am not using it for a few hours. So, that
didn't work. Thanks for the suggestion though.

I just realized you said unplug the main power cord too. I just turn the
machine and CRT off when not in used for a long time. I tried that for
30 seconds. Even turned off with the back PSU switch. I powered the
system back on, and it worked!! Woah! What the heck? Why did this work?

Good job!!
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[di]

I just realized you said unplug the main power cord too. I just turn the
machine and CRT off when not in used for a long time. I tried that for
30 seconds. Even turned off with the back PSU switch. I powered the
system back on, and it worked!! Woah! What the heck? Why did this work?

Good job!!

With the newer computers they have some power goes to them all the
time even when powered off, It seem for some reason if a card locks up
it holds it somehow because of the power even when turned off. so
unplugging main power releases it all. I have also read that any time
you update your video driver it helps to take all power away to get
the most from the new driver. Seem to work for me on that one too.
BUT not real sure why, total power off seems to help. I remove power
from my computer every so often just to make sure everything gets a
fresh set.

 

[Ant]

With the newer computers they have some power goes to them all the
time even when powered off, It seem for some reason if a card locks up
it holds it somehow because of the power even when turned off. so
unplugging main power releases it all. I have also read that any time
you update your video driver it helps to take all power away to get
the most from the new driver. Seem to work for me on that one too.
BUT not real sure why, total power off seems to help. I remove power
from my computer every so often just to make sure everything gets a
fresh set.

I had another incident when my network lost sense of the network cable.
I had to repeat the steps. I am trying lower speed (10BaseT Half Duplex)
now. It seems to be stable, but I might had been lucky. Did you have
to do this too?
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[di]

I had another incident when my network lost sense of the network cable.
I had to repeat the steps. I am trying lower speed (10BaseT Half Duplex)
now. It seems to be stable, but I might had been lucky. Did you have
to do this too?

Not that fast, only 2 times in the last year. I had a friend that had
a lot of trouble after upgrading his network card driver. It too about
3 days to find out it was the new driver. Went back to the old driver
and it was fine.

 

[Ant]

Not that fast, only 2 times in the last year. I had a friend that had
a lot of trouble after upgrading his network card driver. It too about
3 days to find out it was the new driver. Went back to the old driver
and it was fine.

I meant the lowering speed part. I assume you didn't have to do that.
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[di]

I meant the lowering speed part. I assume you didn't have to do that.

Nope, never had to change anything.

would not hurt to do the free virus scan at trend micro, it seems to
find things other thing don't. Plus the have a free spyware prog you
can download too, it works good also.

 

[Ant]

Nope, never had to change anything.

would not hurt to do the free virus scan at trend micro, it seems to
find things other thing don't. Plus the have a free spyware prog you
can download too, it works good also.

Yup, already got those parts covered. I run NAV, Ad-Aware, Spy-Bot, and
The Cleaner every other days. =)

So far, no disconnections and no reboots! Good sign.
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[Ant]

Yup, already got those parts covered. I run NAV, Ad-Aware, Spy-Bot, and
The Cleaner every other days. =)

So far, no disconnections and no reboots! Good sign.

OK. This is ONE crazy network card. I had another disconnection while
playing World of Warcraft, BUT it wasn't an unplugged network cable
error like before. It seems to have forgotten how to connect.

I still had an IP address but couldn't ping anyone including my router.
ipconfig /release resulted saying my network card wasn't there. Repair
didn't work either. Disabling and re-enabling network card didn't fix
it. And what's funny is that it was at 100 Mb/sec speed even though I
told it to use 10 Mb/sec. I set 100 Mb/sec, it said 10 Mb/sec! Ehhh, weird.

I had to use the damn PSU power off and on method to make it work. Piece
of crap. I need to get get a NIC. Ugh.
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[di]

OK. This is ONE crazy network card. I had another disconnection while
playing World of Warcraft, BUT it wasn't an unplugged network cable
error like before. It seems to have forgotten how to connect.

I still had an IP address but couldn't ping anyone including my router.
ipconfig /release resulted saying my network card wasn't there. Repair
didn't work either. Disabling and re-enabling network card didn't fix
it. And what's funny is that it was at 100 Mb/sec speed even though I
told it to use 10 Mb/sec. I set 100 Mb/sec, it said 10 Mb/sec! Ehhh, weird.

I had to use the damn PSU power off and on method to make it work. Piece
of crap. I need to get get a NIC. Ugh.

Have you tried an older driver? Did you update you bios or anything
new that may be causing it? A new NIC is cheap so it may be a good way
of going it going to an older driver don't do it.

 

[Ant]

On 12/4/2005 7:21 AM PT, (e-mail address removed) wrote:

[snipped]

Have you tried an older driver? Did you update you bios or anything
new that may be causing it? A new NIC is cheap so it may be a good way
of going it going to an older driver don't do it.

How old? I used whatever Windows XP Pro. SP2 gave me, then used the
newest from Windows Updates. No changes. Never upgraded BIOS. Don't even
see a new BIOS on ECS' Web site.
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[Ant]

OK. This is ONE crazy network card. I had another disconnection while
playing World of Warcraft, BUT it wasn't an unplugged network cable
error like before. It seems to have forgotten how to connect.

I still had an IP address but couldn't ping anyone including my router.
ipconfig /release resulted saying my network card wasn't there. Repair
didn't work either. Disabling and re-enabling network card didn't fix
it. And what's funny is that it was at 100 Mb/sec speed even though I
told it to use 10 Mb/sec. I set 100 Mb/sec, it said 10 Mb/sec! Ehhh, weird.

I had to use the damn PSU power off and on method to make it work. Piece
of crap. I need to get get a NIC. Ugh.

FYI on ipconfig since it happened again overnight and mostly idled (just
IM and ssh chatting):

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 5:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : VIA Rhine II Fast Ethernet
Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-11-5B-FD-68-B5
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.123
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 209.244.0.3
207.217.77.4

E:\>ipconfig /release

Windows IP Configuration

The operation failed as no adapter is in the state permissible for
this operation.


E:\>ipconfig /renew

Windows IP Configuration

The operation failed as no adapter is in the state permissible for
this operation.
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