Descriptions in Explorer- extension?

J

John Jay Smith

I am looking for a program that will enable me to write descriptions for
files in explorer.

For example I may have a documentary video and I would like to add
some notes about what's it about so I will remember after some time.

I would like this to be integrated in windows explorer and the notes to be
able to be visible somehow either by hovering the cursor on top of the file
or some other way.

Also I would like this information I would like to backup somehow in case I
have to format so I wont lose all the descriptions.

Does anyone know of such a program???

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If you do not like the content or attitude of my posts,
please put me on your ignore list or don't read my posts.

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C

Carey Frisch [MVP]

Open Windows Explorer, right-click on a video file
and select: Properties > Summary > Simple and add
your information.

For file backups, I recommend that you consider
purchasing an external drive that includes a backup
program designed to perform periodic backups.

Examples:
http://www.newegg.com/ProductSort/SubCategory.asp?SubCategory=414

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows - Shell/User
Microsoft Community Newsgroups
news://msnews.microsoft.com/

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:

| I am looking for a program that will enable me to write descriptions for
| files in explorer.
|
| For example I may have a documentary video and I would like to add
| some notes about what's it about so I will remember after some time.
|
| I would like this to be integrated in windows explorer and the notes to be
| able to be visible somehow either by hovering the cursor on top of the file
| or some other way.
|
| Also I would like this information I would like to backup somehow in case I
| have to format so I wont lose all the descriptions.
|
| Does anyone know of such a program???
|
| --
 
J

John Jay Smith

Thanks... for some reason I didnt notice that ever.. LOL

Questions:

Does this information get embeded inside the file?

For example If I write it to a cdrom with the file in the cdrom retain this
information?

If I format the HD and copy the file back to the hard disk (from the CD)
will this info still be with the file?

Finally does this info appear in windows98 as well?

THANKS!
 
J

John Jay Smith

one more question.. is these comments etc searchable?

I may have forgotten the file name but remember something in my
description..
will windows search find it?

Thanx
 
C

Carey Frisch [MVP]

Questions:

Does this information get embedded inside the file?

A. Yes

For example If I write it to a cdrom with the file in the cdrom retain this
information?

A. Yes.

If I format the HD and copy the file back to the hard disk (from the CD)
will this info still be with the file?

A. Yes.

Finally does this info appear in windows98 as well?

A. I don't know if Win98 has this feature...haven't used
it in over 6 years.


--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows - Shell/User
Microsoft Community Newsgroups
news://msnews.microsoft.com/

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:

| Thanks... for some reason I didnt notice that ever.. LOL
|
| Questions:
|
| Does this information get embeded inside the file?
|
| For example If I write it to a cdrom with the file in the cdrom retain this
| information?
|
| If I format the HD and copy the file back to the hard disk (from the CD)
| will this info still be with the file?
|
| Finally does this info appear in windows98 as well?
|
| THANKS!
 
C

Carey Frisch [MVP]

You'll have to try it out and see. I think you can only
search for file and folder names, not specific information
within the file or folder.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows - Shell/User
Microsoft Community Newsgroups
news://msnews.microsoft.com/

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:

| one more question.. is these comments etc searchable?
|
| I may have forgotten the file name but remember something in my
| description..
| will windows search find it?
|
| Thanx
 
W

Wesley Vogel

Does this information get embeded inside the file?

Sort of. Alternate Data Streams.
For example If I write it to a cdrom with the file in the cdrom retain
this information?

No. NTFS format only. You lose the info when copying a file to any other
format.
If I format the HD and copy the file back to the hard disk (from the CD)
will this info still be with the file?

I doubt it, you already lost that info by saving to CD.

I> Finally does this info appear in windows98 as well?

No way. Windows 98 does not work on NTFS formatted hard disks.

On NTFS alternate data streams are created by using the Summary tab.

[[A data stream is a sequence of bytes. An application populates the stream
by writing data at specific offsets within the stream. The application can
then read the data by reading the same offsets in the read path. Every file
has a main, unnamed stream associated with it, regardless of the file system
used. However, NTFS supports additional named data streams in which each
data stream is an alternate sequence of bytes as illustrated in Figure x.
Applications can create additional named streams and access the streams by
referring to their names. This feature permits related data to be managed as
a single unit. For example, a graphics program can store a thumbnail image
of a bitmap in a named data stream within the NTFS file containing the
image.]]

[[FAT volumes support only the main, unnamed stream, so if you try to copy
or move a file to a FAT volume or floppy disk, you receive an
error message as shown below. If you copy the file, all named data
streams and other attributes not supported by FAT are lost.]]
from...
Multiple Data Streams
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/reskit/c13621675.mspx

-----------------------
Confirm Stream Loss
-----------------------
The file 'xxxxxxxxxxxxx.zzz' has extra information
attached to it that might be lost if you continue copying. The
contents of the file will not be affected. Information that might be
lost includes:
Summary Info
Document Summary Info

Do you want to proceed anyway?
-----------------------

Click YES because there is nothing you can do about it.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In
 
J

John Jay Smith

Thanks for clarifying things in such a great way.

This is indeed a NTFS only option.. and I would not want to lose this data
if I
copy things on a cd drive..
therefore I am looking for a shell extension or even another
file program (similar to windows explorer) that can do this,
and have that database backed up..

thanks

--
Disclaimer: This info is given "as is".
If you do not like the content or attitude of my posts,
please put me on your ignore list or dont read my posts.

--
Wesley Vogel said:
Does this information get embeded inside the file?

Sort of. Alternate Data Streams.
For example If I write it to a cdrom with the file in the cdrom retain
this information?

No. NTFS format only. You lose the info when copying a file to any other
format.
If I format the HD and copy the file back to the hard disk (from the CD)
will this info still be with the file?

I doubt it, you already lost that info by saving to CD.

I> Finally does this info appear in windows98 as well?

No way. Windows 98 does not work on NTFS formatted hard disks.

On NTFS alternate data streams are created by using the Summary tab.

[[A data stream is a sequence of bytes. An application populates the
stream
by writing data at specific offsets within the stream. The application can
then read the data by reading the same offsets in the read path. Every
file
has a main, unnamed stream associated with it, regardless of the file
system
used. However, NTFS supports additional named data streams in which each
data stream is an alternate sequence of bytes as illustrated in Figure x.
Applications can create additional named streams and access the streams by
referring to their names. This feature permits related data to be managed
as
a single unit. For example, a graphics program can store a thumbnail image
of a bitmap in a named data stream within the NTFS file containing the
image.]]

[[FAT volumes support only the main, unnamed stream, so if you try to copy
or move a file to a FAT volume or floppy disk, you receive an
error message as shown below. If you copy the file, all named data
streams and other attributes not supported by FAT are lost.]]
from...
Multiple Data Streams
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/reskit/c13621675.mspx

-----------------------
Confirm Stream Loss
-----------------------
The file 'xxxxxxxxxxxxx.zzz' has extra information
attached to it that might be lost if you continue copying. The
contents of the file will not be affected. Information that might be
lost includes:
Summary Info
Document Summary Info

Do you want to proceed anyway?
-----------------------

Click YES because there is nothing you can do about it.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In
John Jay Smith said:
Thanks... for some reason I didnt notice that ever.. LOL

Questions:

Does this information get embeded inside the file?

For example If I write it to a cdrom with the file in the cdrom retain
this information?

If I format the HD and copy the file back to the hard disk (from the CD)
will this info still be with the file?

Finally does this info appear in windows98 as well?

THANKS!

--
Disclaimer: This info is given "as is".
If you do not like the content or attitude of my posts,
please put me on your ignore list or dont read my posts.
 
P

PopS

Near as I can tell, the info will stay with the file as long as
you stay in the NTFS file structures. UDF or FAT-32 for sure,
will not contain those data.
Turns out it's a function of ADS (Alternate Data Services?) if
you wan to do some research.
Look back in the groups; there were some excellent pieces of
advice given to me. If you can't find them, holler; I can look
them up.

I just got thru "fixing" such a problem where if I moved the
file, the comment wouldn't go with it. But I'm the only one I've
ever heard of having such a problem with the ADS, so I got to
learn all about it. Long story short, one of my adware/spyware
programs was preventing it from happening.

If your'e like me, you'll like to test each situation anyway,
before you depend on it. "If you want something done right ... "
attitude. <g>

HTH
Pop
 
P

PopS

Ha! Thanks, Wes! I could NOT remember for sure what it stood
for! IMO, the best strategy (now that it works properly of my
machine!) is to test it before hand; then you know for sure. <g>

Pop,
Happily commenting away (now).


Wesley Vogel said:
Does this information get embeded inside the file?

Sort of. Alternate Data Streams.
For example If I write it to a cdrom with the file in the
cdrom retain
this information?

No. NTFS format only. You lose the info when copying a file
to any other
format.
If I format the HD and copy the file back to the hard disk
(from the CD)
will this info still be with the file?

I doubt it, you already lost that info by saving to CD.

I> Finally does this info appear in windows98 as well?

No way. Windows 98 does not work on NTFS formatted hard disks.

On NTFS alternate data streams are created by using the Summary
tab.

[[A data stream is a sequence of bytes. An application
populates the stream
by writing data at specific offsets within the stream. The
application can
then read the data by reading the same offsets in the read
path. Every file
has a main, unnamed stream associated with it, regardless of
the file system
used. However, NTFS supports additional named data streams in
which each
data stream is an alternate sequence of bytes as illustrated in
Figure x.
Applications can create additional named streams and access the
streams by
referring to their names. This feature permits related data to
be managed as
a single unit. For example, a graphics program can store a
thumbnail image
of a bitmap in a named data stream within the NTFS file
containing the
image.]]

[[FAT volumes support only the main, unnamed stream, so if you
try to copy
or move a file to a FAT volume or floppy disk, you receive an
error message as shown below. If you copy the file, all named
data
streams and other attributes not supported by FAT are lost.]]
from...
Multiple Data Streams
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/reskit/c13621675.mspx

-----------------------
Confirm Stream Loss
-----------------------
The file 'xxxxxxxxxxxxx.zzz' has extra information
attached to it that might be lost if you continue copying. The
contents of the file will not be affected. Information that
might be
lost includes:
Summary Info
Document Summary Info

Do you want to proceed anyway?
-----------------------

Click YES because there is nothing you can do about it.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In
 
P

PopS

I've found that zipping files before backing up works well. That
way, the data is inside the zip; and comes back when you unzip
it.

Pop

John Jay Smith said:
Thanks for clarifying things in such a great way.

This is indeed a NTFS only option.. and I would not want to
lose this data if I
copy things on a cd drive..
therefore I am looking for a shell extension or even another
file program (similar to windows explorer) that can do this,
and have that database backed up..

thanks

--
Disclaimer: This info is given "as is".
If you do not like the content or attitude of my posts,
please put me on your ignore list or dont read my posts.

--
Wesley Vogel said:
Does this information get embeded inside the file?

Sort of. Alternate Data Streams.
For example If I write it to a cdrom with the file in the
cdrom retain
this information?

No. NTFS format only. You lose the info when copying a file
to any other
format.
If I format the HD and copy the file back to the hard disk
(from the CD)
will this info still be with the file?

I doubt it, you already lost that info by saving to CD.

I> Finally does this info appear in windows98 as well?

No way. Windows 98 does not work on NTFS formatted hard
disks.

On NTFS alternate data streams are created by using the
Summary tab.

[[A data stream is a sequence of bytes. An application
populates the stream
by writing data at specific offsets within the stream. The
application can
then read the data by reading the same offsets in the read
path. Every file
has a main, unnamed stream associated with it, regardless of
the file system
used. However, NTFS supports additional named data streams in
which each
data stream is an alternate sequence of bytes as illustrated
in Figure x.
Applications can create additional named streams and access
the streams by
referring to their names. This feature permits related data to
be managed as
a single unit. For example, a graphics program can store a
thumbnail image
of a bitmap in a named data stream within the NTFS file
containing the
image.]]

[[FAT volumes support only the main, unnamed stream, so if you
try to copy
or move a file to a FAT volume or floppy disk, you receive an
error message as shown below. If you copy the file, all named
data
streams and other attributes not supported by FAT are lost.]]
from...
Multiple Data Streams
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/reskit/c13621675.mspx

-----------------------
Confirm Stream Loss
-----------------------
The file 'xxxxxxxxxxxxx.zzz' has extra information
attached to it that might be lost if you continue copying.
The
contents of the file will not be affected. Information that
might be
lost includes:
Summary Info
Document Summary Info

Do you want to proceed anyway?
-----------------------

Click YES because there is nothing you can do about it.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In
John Jay Smith said:
Thanks... for some reason I didnt notice that ever.. LOL

Questions:

Does this information get embeded inside the file?

For example If I write it to a cdrom with the file in the
cdrom retain
this information?

If I format the HD and copy the file back to the hard disk
(from the CD)
will this info still be with the file?

Finally does this info appear in windows98 as well?

THANKS!

--
Disclaimer: This info is given "as is".
If you do not like the content or attitude of my posts,
please put me on your ignore list or dont read my posts.

--
message
Open Windows Explorer, right-click on a video file
and select: Properties > Summary > Simple and add
your information.

For file backups, I recommend that you consider
purchasing an external drive that includes a backup
program designed to perform periodic backups.

Examples:
http://www.newegg.com/ProductSort/SubCategory.asp?SubCategory=414

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows - Shell/User
Microsoft Community Newsgroups
news://msnews.microsoft.com/

------------------------------------------------------------------------- --­----------------

:

I am looking for a program that will enable me to write
descriptions for
files in explorer.

For example I may have a documentary video and I would like
to add
some notes about what's it about so I will remember after
some time.

I would like this to be integrated in windows explorer and
the notes to
be able to be visible somehow either by hovering the cursor
on top of
the file or some other way.

Also I would like this information I would like to backup
somehow in
case I have to format so I wont lose all the descriptions.

Does anyone know of such a program???

--
 
W

Wesley Vogel

That may work with an MS Word .doc file, or similar file. But you do not
have to zip a .doc file to keep Summary info like Comments because Word
stores the info inside the .doc file.

With a Word .doc you can access Summary info from the File Properties
without opening the file or you can access that info by opening the file,
clicking File and then Properties.

If you add Comments to a .txt file, for example, the only way to access that
info is from File Properties on the Context menu.

If you send a that same .txt file with Comments to a floppy you will get the
Confirm Stream Loss warning. If you zip that same .txt file with Comments
and then send it to a floppy you do not get the Confirm Stream Loss warning,
you just lose the Summary info.

With .txt files the Summary info is stored as an Alternate Data Stream.
With a .doc file the Summary info is stored in the file itself.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In
PopS said:
I've found that zipping files before backing up works well. That
way, the data is inside the zip; and comes back when you unzip
it.

Pop

John Jay Smith said:
Thanks for clarifying things in such a great way.

This is indeed a NTFS only option.. and I would not want to
lose this data if I
copy things on a cd drive..
therefore I am looking for a shell extension or even another
file program (similar to windows explorer) that can do this,
and have that database backed up..

thanks

--
Disclaimer: This info is given "as is".
If you do not like the content or attitude of my posts,
please put me on your ignore list or dont read my posts.

--
Wesley Vogel said:
Does this information get embeded inside the file?

Sort of. Alternate Data Streams.

For example If I write it to a cdrom with the file in the
cdrom retain
this information?

No. NTFS format only. You lose the info when copying a file
to any other
format.

If I format the HD and copy the file back to the hard disk
(from the CD)
will this info still be with the file?

I doubt it, you already lost that info by saving to CD.

Finally does this info appear in windows98 as well?

No way. Windows 98 does not work on NTFS formatted hard
disks.

On NTFS alternate data streams are created by using the
Summary tab.

[[A data stream is a sequence of bytes. An application
populates the stream
by writing data at specific offsets within the stream. The
application can
then read the data by reading the same offsets in the read
path. Every file
has a main, unnamed stream associated with it, regardless of
the file system
used. However, NTFS supports additional named data streams in
which each
data stream is an alternate sequence of bytes as illustrated
in Figure x.
Applications can create additional named streams and access
the streams by
referring to their names. This feature permits related data to
be managed as
a single unit. For example, a graphics program can store a
thumbnail image
of a bitmap in a named data stream within the NTFS file
containing the
image.]]

[[FAT volumes support only the main, unnamed stream, so if you
try to copy
or move a file to a FAT volume or floppy disk, you receive an
error message as shown below. If you copy the file, all named
data
streams and other attributes not supported by FAT are lost.]]
from...
Multiple Data Streams
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/reskit/c13621675.mspx

-----------------------
Confirm Stream Loss
-----------------------
The file 'xxxxxxxxxxxxx.zzz' has extra information
attached to it that might be lost if you continue copying.
The
contents of the file will not be affected. Information that
might be
lost includes:
Summary Info
Document Summary Info

Do you want to proceed anyway?
-----------------------

Click YES because there is nothing you can do about it.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In John Jay Smith <-> hunted and pecked:
Thanks... for some reason I didnt notice that ever.. LOL

Questions:

Does this information get embeded inside the file?

For example If I write it to a cdrom with the file in the
cdrom retain
this information?

If I format the HD and copy the file back to the hard disk
(from the CD)
will this info still be with the file?

Finally does this info appear in windows98 as well?

THANKS!

--
Disclaimer: This info is given "as is".
If you do not like the content or attitude of my posts,
please put me on your ignore list or dont read my posts.

--
message
Open Windows Explorer, right-click on a video file
and select: Properties > Summary > Simple and add
your information.

For file backups, I recommend that you consider
purchasing an external drive that includes a backup
program designed to perform periodic backups.

Examples:
http://www.newegg.com/ProductSort/SubCategory.asp?SubCategory=414

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows - Shell/User
Microsoft Community Newsgroups
news://msnews.microsoft.com/

---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---
--­----------------

:

I am looking for a program that will enable me to write
descriptions for
files in explorer.

For example I may have a documentary video and I would like
to add
some notes about what's it about so I will remember after
some time.

I would like this to be integrated in windows explorer and
the notes to
be able to be visible somehow either by hovering the cursor
on top of
the file or some other way.

Also I would like this information I would like to backup
somehow in
case I have to format so I wont lose all the descriptions.

Does anyone know of such a program???

--
 

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