Defragmenter no longer works

[Wesley Vogel]

A person may need both of these services if the partitions are formatted as
dynamic disks.

What Are Dynamic Disks and Volumes?
http://technet2.microsoft.com/WindowsServer/en/Library/0cd59ee9-79a5-4ba7-ade2-2a8cf5e9ba901033.mspx

Or if an external drive that gets removed and re-installed all the time. I
don't know, I don't have anything like that.

[[Logical Disk Manager Administrative Service is only used when doing Disk
Management. This service is started only when configuring a drive or
partition or when a new drive is detected.]]
http://smallvoid.com/tweak/winnt/service/jkl.html#DMADMIN

[[Logical Disk Manager is only used when doing Disk Management and if the
partitions are formatted as dynamic disks. Logical Disk Manager Watchdog
Service that detects the appearance/disappearance of hard drives and the
partitions they contain.]]
http://smallvoid.com/tweak/winnt/service/jkl.html#DMSERVER

[[Logical Disk Manager Detects and monitors new hard disk drives and sends
disk volume information to Logical Disk Manager Administrative Service for
configuration. If this service is stopped, dynamic disk status and
configuration information may become out of date. If this service is
disabled, any services that explicitly depend on it will fail to start.
*If needed, a Manual setting will allow this service to start and stop when
not needed.

Logical Disk Manager Administrative Service Configures hard disk drives and
volumes. The service only runs for configuration processes and then stops.
*Required by the MMC Console for dynamic volumes. ]]
http://www.beemerworld.com/tips/servicesxp.htm

[[Logical Disk Manager
Detects and monitors new hard disk drives and sends disk volume information
to Logical Disk Manager Administrative Service for configuration. If this
service is stopped, dynamic disk status and configuration information may
become out of date. If this service is disabled, any services that
explicitly depend on it will fail to start.

Swap drive or have removable drives? Set to automatic. Manual otherwise.]]
http://www.geocities.com/ziyadhosein/xpserv1.htm

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In

Thank you!
After re-reading the facts, it appears Task Scheduler only affects the
Prefetcher's normal/cyclic Defragmentation. [As you said.]
The "Description" of the *Logical Disk Manager Administrative Service*
just plain isn't clear: "Configures Hard Drives & Volumes. The service
only runs for configuration processes and then stops." If Defrag isn't
(re)configuring, then configuring as in what? Drive letter assignment?

There is a Logical Disk Manager service and a Logical Disk Manager
Administrative Service service, there is no Disk Management Service that
I am aware of in XP. The Task Scheduler service has nothing to do with
defrag unless you want to schedule a defrag. None of these are required
to be running in order for defrag to work.

I have the Logical Disk Manager service, the Logical Disk Manager
Administrative Service service and the Task Scheduler service all
disabled and defrag works fine on my machine.

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Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In

Fellow user here. Tweaked any Services? Defrag requires Task Scheduler
Service, and (maybe) Disk Management Service running to work. Look in
Control Panel>Administrative Tools>Services to see if these services are
Enabled and Running.

HTH

:

Wesley:

OK, here is the best I can do with your last set of instructions and
suggestions.

1. When I enter defrag C: I get the usual response--Disk Defragmenter
could not start....

2. The scannow sfc was a washout. I kept getting messages that said
"Files that are required for Windows to run properly must be copied to
the DLL cashe. Insert XP CD now." Unfortunately, I could not find my
XP CD after two hours of searching. It's been a while....

3. The Event Viewer showed quite a few errors under Applications and
Systems, none under the other category.

4. I went to the website with Registry Mechanic, downloaded it, and
ran the trial version, which turned up something like 689 errors in the
registry. Fixing them all required a purchase. Do you recommend such a
purchase? It sells for $29.99, not bad if it works.

5. Finally, I ran the two regsvr32 files and both succeeded.

I'm open to further directions from you or any other computer pro such
as yourself.

Now to bed. I'll check back tomorrow. Thanks for all your help.

Ed



--
Ed


:

Ed,

What happens if you open a command prompt, type
defrag C:
and hit Enter?

Try running The System File Checker (sfc.exe).

Start | Run | Type or paste: sfc /scannow | Click OK

This will take a while.

If SFC.EXE did anything it will be in the Event Viewer.

Open the Event Viewer...
Start | Run | Type: eventvwr | Click OK |
Click System | Look at any Windows File Protection
entries

More info..
scannow sfc (sfc.exe)
http://www.updatexp.com/scannow-sfc.html

After running sfc, reregister dfrgui.dll and dfrgsnap.dll.

Start | Run | Type: regsvr32 dfrgui.dll | Click OK

Start | Run | Type: regsvr32 dfrgsnap.dll | Click OK

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In egleaves <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Back to Wesley this time:

In response to defrag/? I get usage info, not an error message, e.g.,
volume, analyze only, force...., verbose output, etc.

In response to dfrg.msc, Defragmenter does open, as always, but when
I click on Analyze or Defragment, I get the usual response: "Disk
Defragmenter could not start."

What does this tell you?

--
Ed


:

Ed,

defrag.exe has to run from a command prompt.

dfrg.msc is the file that has all the pretty colors.

What happens if you open a command prompt...
Start | Run | Type: cmd | Click OK |
Type defrag /? in the command prompt and hit Enter?
Do you get the Usage info? Or an error message? If an error
message, what's the message?

What happens if you...
Start | Run | Type: dfrg.msc | Click OK
Does Disk Defragmenter open? Or do you get an error message? If an
error message, what's the message? If Disk Defragmenter opens what
happens if you click Analyze? Or if you click Defragment?

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In egleaves <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Marv:

I downloaded and ran the file but to no avail. At least, I
thought I ran it; it opened and closed too fast to tell--but it's
only 69K.

Thanks anyway. Any other ideas?
--
Ed


:

egleaves,
Try this download from my site. It came from Microsoft I believe.
http://www.marvswindowstips.com/Downloads/defrag.exe

Hope this helps!
--
Regards,
Marv
Marvs Windows Tips & Tricks
http://www.marvswindowstips.com


:

Thanks to Wesley, I was able to find the hidden folder and
install dfrg.inf.

But Disk Defragmenter still does not work.....

I'm about ready to throw my computer out the door, but not
yet.....

Any other suggestions?
--
Ed


:

\WINDOWS\inf is a Hidden folder.

Paste the following in Start | Run and click OK...

%windir%\inf

Right click dfrg.inf and select Install
-----

HOW TO: Search For Hidden Or System Files In Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;302347

To display Hidden files and folders...

Start | Settings | Control Panel | Folder Options | View tab
Check:
Display the contents of system folders
Show hidden files and folders
UNCheck:
Hide protected operating system files (Recommended)
Click Apply | Click OK

[[Hidden files and folders will appear dimmed to indicate they
are not typical items.]]

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In egleaves <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
My Disk Defragmenter no longer works, a possible casualty of
Diskeeper. Nor, for that matter, does Norton's Speed Disk.
Disk Defragmenter says "Disk Defragmenter could not start" and
Speed Disk says "Speed Disk is unable to access Drive C.
Please check to see if another application has the drive
locked."

I've looked at many of the postings on this site, and one of
best responses I have seen is AndreasRoom.com. I made the
changes in the command prompts as suggested, but still no
luck. (I was not able to find the windows\inf folder as
suggested--any suggestions?)

I also changed the setting to System Managed Size under Virtual
Memory in the Control Panel as suggested by another writer, but
still no luck.

What's left to do? I'd love to hear from some of you smart
people on this issue. My computer badly needs to be
defragmented.

Thanks!

 

[Wesley Vogel]

AVG 7 Free.

http://free.grisoft.com/freeweb.php/doc/2/lng/us/tpl/v5

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In

Wesley:

I'm happy with the crutch. Thanks for all your help.

One final question: If not Norton, then what?
--
Ed

Well, Ed, this may sound like a crutch, but anytime that you need to
defrag, run it in Safe Mode. <shrug> At least it works. ;-)

I have absolutely no idea about Speed Disk. I won't have *anything*
Norton or McAfee on my machine.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In

Well, I ran Fefrag in Safe Made and it worked! While I was at it, I
went ahead and defragged my hard drive, which took most of the
afternoon.

Defrag in Windows, though, still does not work.

As for uninstalling Speed Disk, I recently downloaded Norton SystemWorks
and Firewall and thus don't have a CD from which I could reload Speed
Disk after uninstalling it. But if Speed Disk is blocking Defrag, does
it work the other way too?

--
Ed


:

Ed,

Find your XP CD and try sfc /scannow again.

Start in Safe Mode and see if defrag works.

To start the computer in safe mode

http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/boot_failsafe.mspx

I just reread your first post. Get rid of Norton's Speed Disk. Just a
guess, but I bet that is what's causing the problem.

Uninstall Norton's Speed Disk, reboot and try running defrag. If it
works and you really want Norton's Speed Disk, reinstall it, reboot and
see if Speed Disk and defrag work. You can than judge if Norton's
Speed Disk was causing any problem.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In egleaves <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Wesley:

OK, here is the best I can do with your last set of instructions and
suggestions.

1. When I enter defrag C: I get the usual response--Disk Defragmenter
could not start....

2. The scannow sfc was a washout. I kept getting messages that said
"Files that are required for Windows to run properly must be copied to
the DLL cashe. Insert XP CD now." Unfortunately, I could not find my
XP CD after two hours of searching. It's been a while....

3. The Event Viewer showed quite a few errors under Applications and
Systems, none under the other category.

4. I went to the website with Registry Mechanic, downloaded it, and
ran the trial version, which turned up something like 689 errors in
the registry. Fixing them all required a purchase. Do you recommend
such a purchase? It sells for $29.99, not bad if it works.

5. Finally, I ran the two regsvr32 files and both succeeded.

I'm open to further directions from you or any other computer pro such
as yourself.

Now to bed. I'll check back tomorrow. Thanks for all your help.

Ed



--
Ed


:

Ed,

What happens if you open a command prompt, type
defrag C:
and hit Enter?

Try running The System File Checker (sfc.exe).

Start | Run | Type or paste: sfc /scannow | Click OK

This will take a while.

If SFC.EXE did anything it will be in the Event Viewer.

Open the Event Viewer...
Start | Run | Type: eventvwr | Click OK |
Click System | Look at any Windows File Protection
entries

More info..
scannow sfc (sfc.exe)
http://www.updatexp.com/scannow-sfc.html

After running sfc, reregister dfrgui.dll and dfrgsnap.dll.

Start | Run | Type: regsvr32 dfrgui.dll | Click OK

Start | Run | Type: regsvr32 dfrgsnap.dll | Click OK

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In egleaves <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Back to Wesley this time:

In response to defrag/? I get usage info, not an error message,
e.g., volume, analyze only, force...., verbose output, etc.

In response to dfrg.msc, Defragmenter does open, as always, but
when I click on Analyze or Defragment, I get the usual response:
"Disk Defragmenter could not start."

What does this tell you?

--
Ed


:

Ed,

defrag.exe has to run from a command prompt.

dfrg.msc is the file that has all the pretty colors.

What happens if you open a command prompt...
Start | Run | Type: cmd | Click OK |
Type defrag /? in the command prompt and hit Enter?
Do you get the Usage info? Or an error message? If an error
message, what's the message?

What happens if you...
Start | Run | Type: dfrg.msc | Click OK
Does Disk Defragmenter open? Or do you get an error message? If an
error message, what's the message? If Disk Defragmenter opens what
happens if you click Analyze? Or if you click Defragment?

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In egleaves <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Marv:

I downloaded and ran the file but to no avail. At least, I
thought I ran it; it opened and closed too fast to tell--but it's
only 69K.

Thanks anyway. Any other ideas?
--
Ed


:

egleaves,
Try this download from my site. It came from Microsoft I believe.
http://www.marvswindowstips.com/Downloads/defrag.exe

Hope this helps!
--
Regards,
Marv
Marvs Windows Tips & Tricks
http://www.marvswindowstips.com


:

Thanks to Wesley, I was able to find the hidden folder and
install dfrg.inf.

But Disk Defragmenter still does not work.....

I'm about ready to throw my computer out the door, but not
yet.....

Any other suggestions?
--
Ed


:

\WINDOWS\inf is a Hidden folder.

Paste the following in Start | Run and click OK...

%windir%\inf

Right click dfrg.inf and select Install
-----

HOW TO: Search For Hidden Or System Files In Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;302347

To display Hidden files and folders...

Start | Settings | Control Panel | Folder Options | View tab
Check:
Display the contents of system folders
Show hidden files and folders
UNCheck:
Hide protected operating system files (Recommended)
Click Apply | Click OK

[[Hidden files and folders will appear dimmed to indicate they
are not typical items.]]

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In egleaves <[email protected]> hunted and
pecked:
My Disk Defragmenter no longer works, a possible casualty of
Diskeeper. Nor, for that matter, does Norton's Speed Disk.
Disk Defragmenter says "Disk Defragmenter could not start"
and Speed Disk says "Speed Disk is unable to access Drive C.
Please check to see if another application has the drive
locked."

I've looked at many of the postings on this site, and one of
best responses I have seen is AndreasRoom.com. I made the
changes in the command prompts as suggested, but still no
luck. (I was not able to find the windows\inf folder as
suggested--any suggestions?)

I also changed the setting to System Managed Size under
Virtual Memory in the Control Panel as suggested by another
writer, but still no luck.

What's left to do? I'd love to hear from some of you smart
people on this issue. My computer badly needs to be
defragmented.

Thanks!

 

[Guest]

AVG 7 Free.

http://free.grisoft.com/freeweb.php/doc/2/lng/us/tpl/v5

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In

Wesley:

I'm happy with the crutch. Thanks for all your help.

One final question: If not Norton, then what?
--
Ed

Well, Ed, this may sound like a crutch, but anytime that you need to
defrag, run it in Safe Mode. <shrug> At least it works. ;-)

I have absolutely no idea about Speed Disk. I won't have *anything*
Norton or McAfee on my machine.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In egleaves <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Well, I ran Fefrag in Safe Made and it worked! While I was at it, I
went ahead and defragged my hard drive, which took most of the
afternoon.

Defrag in Windows, though, still does not work.

As for uninstalling Speed Disk, I recently downloaded Norton SystemWorks
and Firewall and thus don't have a CD from which I could reload Speed
Disk after uninstalling it. But if Speed Disk is blocking Defrag, does
it work the other way too?

--
Ed


:

Ed,

Find your XP CD and try sfc /scannow again.

Start in Safe Mode and see if defrag works.

To start the computer in safe mode

http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/boot_failsafe.mspx

I just reread your first post. Get rid of Norton's Speed Disk. Just a
guess, but I bet that is what's causing the problem.

Uninstall Norton's Speed Disk, reboot and try running defrag. If it
works and you really want Norton's Speed Disk, reinstall it, reboot and
see if Speed Disk and defrag work. You can than judge if Norton's
Speed Disk was causing any problem.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In egleaves <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Wesley:

OK, here is the best I can do with your last set of instructions and
suggestions.

1. When I enter defrag C: I get the usual response--Disk Defragmenter
could not start....

2. The scannow sfc was a washout. I kept getting messages that said
"Files that are required for Windows to run properly must be copied to
the DLL cashe. Insert XP CD now." Unfortunately, I could not find my
XP CD after two hours of searching. It's been a while....

3. The Event Viewer showed quite a few errors under Applications and
Systems, none under the other category.

4. I went to the website with Registry Mechanic, downloaded it, and
ran the trial version, which turned up something like 689 errors in
the registry. Fixing them all required a purchase. Do you recommend
such a purchase? It sells for $29.99, not bad if it works.

5. Finally, I ran the two regsvr32 files and both succeeded.

I'm open to further directions from you or any other computer pro such
as yourself.

Now to bed. I'll check back tomorrow. Thanks for all your help.

Ed



--
Ed


:

Ed,

What happens if you open a command prompt, type
defrag C:
and hit Enter?

Try running The System File Checker (sfc.exe).

Start | Run | Type or paste: sfc /scannow | Click OK

This will take a while.

If SFC.EXE did anything it will be in the Event Viewer.

Open the Event Viewer...
Start | Run | Type: eventvwr | Click OK |
Click System | Look at any Windows File Protection
entries

More info..
scannow sfc (sfc.exe)
http://www.updatexp.com/scannow-sfc.html

After running sfc, reregister dfrgui.dll and dfrgsnap.dll.

Start | Run | Type: regsvr32 dfrgui.dll | Click OK

Start | Run | Type: regsvr32 dfrgsnap.dll | Click OK

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In egleaves <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Back to Wesley this time:

In response to defrag/? I get usage info, not an error message,
e.g., volume, analyze only, force...., verbose output, etc.

In response to dfrg.msc, Defragmenter does open, as always, but
when I click on Analyze or Defragment, I get the usual response:
"Disk Defragmenter could not start."

What does this tell you?

--
Ed


:

Ed,

defrag.exe has to run from a command prompt.

dfrg.msc is the file that has all the pretty colors.

What happens if you open a command prompt...
Start | Run | Type: cmd | Click OK |
Type defrag /? in the command prompt and hit Enter?
Do you get the Usage info? Or an error message? If an error
message, what's the message?

What happens if you...
Start | Run | Type: dfrg.msc | Click OK
Does Disk Defragmenter open? Or do you get an error message? If an
error message, what's the message? If Disk Defragmenter opens what
happens if you click Analyze? Or if you click Defragment?

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In egleaves <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Marv:

I downloaded and ran the file but to no avail. At least, I
thought I ran it; it opened and closed too fast to tell--but it's
only 69K.

Thanks anyway. Any other ideas?
--
Ed


:

egleaves,
Try this download from my site. It came from Microsoft I believe.
http://www.marvswindowstips.com/Downloads/defrag.exe

Hope this helps!
--
Regards,
Marv
Marvs Windows Tips & Tricks
http://www.marvswindowstips.com


:

Thanks to Wesley, I was able to find the hidden folder and
install dfrg.inf.

But Disk Defragmenter still does not work.....

I'm about ready to throw my computer out the door, but not
yet.....

Any other suggestions?
--
Ed


:

\WINDOWS\inf is a Hidden folder.

Paste the following in Start | Run and click OK...

%windir%\inf

Right click dfrg.inf and select Install
-----

HOW TO: Search For Hidden Or System Files In Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;302347

To display Hidden files and folders...

Start | Settings | Control Panel | Folder Options | View tab
Check:
Display the contents of system folders
Show hidden files and folders
UNCheck:
Hide protected operating system files (Recommended)
Click Apply | Click OK

[[Hidden files and folders will appear dimmed to indicate they
are not typical items.]]

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In egleaves <[email protected]> hunted and
pecked:
My Disk Defragmenter no longer works, a possible casualty of
Diskeeper. Nor, for that matter, does Norton's Speed Disk.
Disk Defragmenter says "Disk Defragmenter could not start"
and Speed Disk says "Speed Disk is unable to access Drive C.
Please check to see if another application has the drive
locked."

I've looked at many of the postings on this site, and one of
best responses I have seen is AndreasRoom.com. I made the
changes in the command prompts as suggested, but still no
luck. (I was not able to find the windows\inf folder as
suggested--any suggestions?)

I also changed the setting to System Managed Size under
Virtual Memory in the Control Panel as suggested by another
writer, but still no luck.

What's left to do? I'd love to hear from some of you smart
people on this issue. My computer badly needs to be
defragmented.

Thanks!

Wow!! My Defrag utility has not worked for months, but after running
sfc.exe reregistering the two .dll files, my defrag utility is working once
again. Thanks a lot!!

 

[Tom Alford]

Ed, Wesley

I had the same problem that when I tried to run Defrag all I would get is
Disk Defragmentation Could Not Start.
I found the problem by accident, what I found was that the Virtual Memery
was set to No Paging.
After setting it back to System Managed Size and reboot the Defrag started
to work again.
I don't know how it got set to No Paging or when but this worked for me.

Ed,

What happens if you open a command prompt, type
defrag C:
and hit Enter?

Try running The System File Checker (sfc.exe).

Start | Run | Type or paste: sfc /scannow | Click OK

This will take a while.

If SFC.EXE did anything it will be in the Event Viewer.

Open the Event Viewer...
Start | Run | Type: eventvwr | Click OK |
Click System | Look at any Windows File Protection
entries

More info..
scannow sfc (sfc.exe)
http://www.updatexp.com/scannow-sfc.html

After running sfc, reregister dfrgui.dll and dfrgsnap.dll.

Start | Run | Type: regsvr32 dfrgui.dll | Click OK

Start | Run | Type: regsvr32 dfrgsnap.dll | Click OK

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In

Back to Wesley this time:

In response to defrag/? I get usage info, not an error message, e.g.,
volume, analyze only, force...., verbose output, etc.

In response to dfrg.msc, Defragmenter does open, as always, but when I
click on Analyze or Defragment, I get the usual response: "Disk
Defragmenter could not start."

What does this tell you?

--
Ed

Ed,

defrag.exe has to run from a command prompt.

dfrg.msc is the file that has all the pretty colors.

What happens if you open a command prompt...
Start | Run | Type: cmd | Click OK |
Type defrag /? in the command prompt and hit Enter?
Do you get the Usage info? Or an error message? If an error message,
what's the message?

What happens if you...
Start | Run | Type: dfrg.msc | Click OK
Does Disk Defragmenter open? Or do you get an error message? If an error
message, what's the message? If Disk Defragmenter opens what happens if
you click Analyze? Or if you click Defragment?

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In egleaves <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Marv:

I downloaded and ran the file but to no avail. At least, I thought I
ran it; it opened and closed too fast to tell--but it's only 69K.

Thanks anyway. Any other ideas?
--
Ed


:

egleaves,
Try this download from my site. It came from Microsoft I believe.
http://www.marvswindowstips.com/Downloads/defrag.exe

Hope this helps!
--
Regards,
Marv
Marvs Windows Tips & Tricks
http://www.marvswindowstips.com


:

Thanks to Wesley, I was able to find the hidden folder and install
dfrg.inf.

But Disk Defragmenter still does not work.....

I'm about ready to throw my computer out the door, but not yet.....

Any other suggestions?
--
Ed


:

\WINDOWS\inf is a Hidden folder.

Paste the following in Start | Run and click OK...

%windir%\inf

Right click dfrg.inf and select Install
-----

HOW TO: Search For Hidden Or System Files In Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;302347

To display Hidden files and folders...

Start | Settings | Control Panel | Folder Options | View tab
Check:
Display the contents of system folders
Show hidden files and folders
UNCheck:
Hide protected operating system files (Recommended)
Click Apply | Click OK

[[Hidden files and folders will appear dimmed to indicate they are
not typical items.]]

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In egleaves <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
My Disk Defragmenter no longer works, a possible casualty of
Diskeeper. Nor, for that matter, does Norton's Speed Disk. Disk
Defragmenter says "Disk Defragmenter could not start" and Speed Disk
says "Speed Disk is unable to access Drive C. Please check to see
if another application has the drive locked."

I've looked at many of the postings on this site, and one of best
responses I have seen is AndreasRoom.com. I made the changes in the
command prompts as suggested, but still no luck. (I was not able to
find the windows\inf folder as suggested--any suggestions?)

I also changed the setting to System Managed Size under Virtual
Memory in the Control Panel as suggested by another writer, but
still no luck.

What's left to do? I'd love to hear from some of you smart people
on this issue. My computer badly needs to be defragmented.

Thanks!

 

[Ken Blake, MVP]

On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:58:01 -0800, Tom Alford <Tom

Ed, Wesley

Please do *not* reply to extremely old messages as you did here. It's
been a *long* time since Wesley has posted here, and he won't see your
reply.

I had the same problem that when I tried to run Defrag all I would get is
Disk Defragmentation Could Not Start.
I found the problem by accident, what I found was that the Virtual Memery
was set to No Paging.
After setting it back to System Managed Size and reboot the Defrag started
to work again.
I don't know how it got set to No Paging or when but this worked for me.

Ed,

What happens if you open a command prompt, type
defrag C:
and hit Enter?

Try running The System File Checker (sfc.exe).

Start | Run | Type or paste: sfc /scannow | Click OK

This will take a while.

If SFC.EXE did anything it will be in the Event Viewer.

Open the Event Viewer...
Start | Run | Type: eventvwr | Click OK |
Click System | Look at any Windows File Protection
entries

More info..
scannow sfc (sfc.exe)
http://www.updatexp.com/scannow-sfc.html

After running sfc, reregister dfrgui.dll and dfrgsnap.dll.

Start | Run | Type: regsvr32 dfrgui.dll | Click OK

Start | Run | Type: regsvr32 dfrgsnap.dll | Click OK

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In

Back to Wesley this time:

In response to defrag/? I get usage info, not an error message, e.g.,
volume, analyze only, force...., verbose output, etc.

In response to dfrg.msc, Defragmenter does open, as always, but when I
click on Analyze or Defragment, I get the usual response: "Disk
Defragmenter could not start."

What does this tell you?

--
Ed


:

Ed,

defrag.exe has to run from a command prompt.

dfrg.msc is the file that has all the pretty colors.

What happens if you open a command prompt...
Start | Run | Type: cmd | Click OK |
Type defrag /? in the command prompt and hit Enter?
Do you get the Usage info? Or an error message? If an error message,
what's the message?

What happens if you...
Start | Run | Type: dfrg.msc | Click OK
Does Disk Defragmenter open? Or do you get an error message? If an error
message, what's the message? If Disk Defragmenter opens what happens if
you click Analyze? Or if you click Defragment?

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In egleaves <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Marv:

I downloaded and ran the file but to no avail. At least, I thought I
ran it; it opened and closed too fast to tell--but it's only 69K.

Thanks anyway. Any other ideas?
--
Ed


:

egleaves,
Try this download from my site. It came from Microsoft I believe.
http://www.marvswindowstips.com/Downloads/defrag.exe

Hope this helps!
--
Regards,
Marv
Marvs Windows Tips & Tricks
http://www.marvswindowstips.com


:

Thanks to Wesley, I was able to find the hidden folder and install
dfrg.inf.

But Disk Defragmenter still does not work.....

I'm about ready to throw my computer out the door, but not yet.....

Any other suggestions?
--
Ed


:

\WINDOWS\inf is a Hidden folder.

Paste the following in Start | Run and click OK...

%windir%\inf

Right click dfrg.inf and select Install
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HOW TO: Search For Hidden Or System Files In Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;302347

To display Hidden files and folders...

Start | Settings | Control Panel | Folder Options | View tab
Check:
Display the contents of system folders
Show hidden files and folders
UNCheck:
Hide protected operating system files (Recommended)
Click Apply | Click OK

[[Hidden files and folders will appear dimmed to indicate they are
not typical items.]]

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In egleaves <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
My Disk Defragmenter no longer works, a possible casualty of
Diskeeper. Nor, for that matter, does Norton's Speed Disk. Disk
Defragmenter says "Disk Defragmenter could not start" and Speed Disk
says "Speed Disk is unable to access Drive C. Please check to see
if another application has the drive locked."

I've looked at many of the postings on this site, and one of best
responses I have seen is AndreasRoom.com. I made the changes in the
command prompts as suggested, but still no luck. (I was not able to
find the windows\inf folder as suggested--any suggestions?)

I also changed the setting to System Managed Size under Virtual
Memory in the Control Panel as suggested by another writer, but
still no luck.

What's left to do? I'd love to hear from some of you smart people
on this issue. My computer badly needs to be defragmented.

Thanks!