Defragmentation

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My computer crashed 3 months ago and had use the restore disc that came with
my computer. The computer works ok now except for deframentation. I have just
installed Windows Live One Care which seems operate ok. Did a tune up and
during the tune up it supposedly defrags the disc, however under the heading
it states "Unknown error prevented tune-up from performing this task. Try
running tune up again". This was one of the reasons that I tried the 90 day
free trial of this Windows Live One Care.

Previously ,prior to installing Windows Live One Care I had found this
problem when going to defragmentation on my computer. I had hoped One Care
would eliminate this problem but it did not.

When I go to defrag my computer and click "analyze" a dialog box comes up
which states " Defragmentation has been aborted due to inconsistencies that
were detected in the file system. Please run CHKDSK or SCANDISK on (C:) to
repair these inconsistencies then run disc defragmentation again". I ran the
CHKDISK several times and went back to the defragmentation and clicking on
"analyze" I keep getting the same dialog box. Thus CHKDISK doesn't do
anything to repair the problem.

Checking the log file on Windows Live One Care re the defragmentation
attempt it stated "This task was not performed because of an internal error".

Any help with this problem woud be appreciated.

Thank you


-
Reg Garbett
 
Chkdsk has two different modes, Read-Only and Fix or Repair. Unless you
ran Chkdsk C: /F (or) /R then the Chkdsk did not make any corrections to
the drive. To gain exclusive use of the drive Chkdsk /F /R must run prior to
XP loading it's Graphic Interface. To run Chkdsk with this mode.
Click Start, Run (Type) Cmd [Enter]
Chkdsk C: /F
Click to expand...
.....can only be done at boot would you like...
Answer Y, reboot machine
NOTE: Chkdsk with F/ or /R can and sometimes removes data in the course
of fixing problems. DO NOT run Chkdsk in a repair mode unless
your data is backed up and verified.
 
I was not aware that there was something else othwer than chkdsk which is
what I ran. Mr. Mccarty's response and yours indicated otherwise. I'm a bit
confused on Mr. Mccartys response and will have to look at it further.
Confused as to what I have to save to prevent further problems.Will advise
Mr. Mccarty also.

Thank you
 
Thank you for your response. I was not aware of the chkdsk variations. I just
entered chkdsk. I have two questions for you since I am not much more than a
novice here and the questions that I will ask may look dumb to you.

1. Use the chkdsc prior to XP loading graphic interface. What is graphic
interface and how do I recognize it so I can do chkdsk (F) before it occurs?

2. Do not run chkdsk repair mode unless data is backed up and verified. What
data are we talking about. Is this something that I have to put on a CD? Do I
have to set a restore point on my computer?

Sorry if you are frustrated with me but am in the learning phase here
obviously.

Thank you for your assistance. Will wait for your response before I venture
further.

Regards
--
Reg Garbett


R. McCarty said:
Chkdsk has two different modes, Read-Only and Fix or Repair. Unless you
ran Chkdsk C: /F (or) /R then the Chkdsk did not make any corrections to
the drive. To gain exclusive use of the drive Chkdsk /F /R must run prior to
XP loading it's Graphic Interface. To run Chkdsk with this mode.
Click Start, Run (Type) Cmd [Enter]
Chkdsk C: /F
Click to expand...
.....can only be done at boot would you like...
Answer Y, reboot machine
NOTE: Chkdsk with F/ or /R can and sometimes removes data in the course
of fixing problems. DO NOT run Chkdsk in a repair mode unless
your data is backed up and verified.

Reg Garbett said:
My computer crashed 3 months ago and had use the restore disc that came
with
my computer. The computer works ok now except for deframentation. I have
just
installed Windows Live One Care which seems operate ok. Did a tune up and
during the tune up it supposedly defrags the disc, however under the
heading
it states "Unknown error prevented tune-up from performing this task. Try
running tune up again". This was one of the reasons that I tried the 90
day
free trial of this Windows Live One Care.

Previously ,prior to installing Windows Live One Care I had found this
problem when going to defragmentation on my computer. I had hoped One Care
would eliminate this problem but it did not.

When I go to defrag my computer and click "analyze" a dialog box comes up
which states " Defragmentation has been aborted due to inconsistencies
that
were detected in the file system. Please run CHKDSK or SCANDISK on (C:) to
repair these inconsistencies then run disc defragmentation again". I ran
the
CHKDISK several times and went back to the defragmentation and clicking on
"analyze" I keep getting the same dialog box. Thus CHKDISK doesn't do
anything to repair the problem.

Checking the log file on Windows Live One Care re the defragmentation
attempt it stated "This task was not performed because of an internal
error".

Any help with this problem woud be appreciated.

Thank you


-
Reg Garbett
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
Everybody starts somewhere with PCs, so no apology is necessary.

Windows Graphic User Interface is just a technical term for the screen
and the clickable things you can do with it. Windows boots in phases
which is why you see the XP Flag before the desktop appears. Many
things use the disk drive while windows is running. Chkdsk with a Fix
or Repair needs to exclusively use the drive with no other app or driver
opening/accessing files.

Chkdsk with /F or R must be queued up to run in the period before
the desktop ( GUI ) appears. To do this:
Click Start, Run ( Type ) Cmd [Enter]
Chkdsk C: /F [Enter]
Click to expand...
Answer Y to perform at next boot.
Reboot the computer.

Backups are critical, a hard drive has NO/ZERO permanency about it.
Any drive can fail at any time. Data on the drive can also get corrupted
without the drive physically failing. This is what is going on with your PC.
Chkdsk respects no data, it just fixes the problems. Before you turn loose
a Chkdsk C: /F you need to make sure your personal data is protected.
This includes My Documents, ( which holds Music/Pictures ) and also
your email storage modules.

A large % of PC users don't understand the risks of working without
proper backups. There is a an old saying of "It's not a matter of if, but
when" your hard drive fails or other issues cause you to loose data.


Reg Garbett said:
Thank you for your response. I was not aware of the chkdsk variations. I
just
entered chkdsk. I have two questions for you since I am not much more than
a
novice here and the questions that I will ask may look dumb to you.

1. Use the chkdsc prior to XP loading graphic interface. What is graphic
interface and how do I recognize it so I can do chkdsk (F) before it
occurs?

2. Do not run chkdsk repair mode unless data is backed up and verified.
What
data are we talking about. Is this something that I have to put on a CD?
Do I
have to set a restore point on my computer?

Sorry if you are frustrated with me but am in the learning phase here
obviously.

Thank you for your assistance. Will wait for your response before I
venture
further.

Regards
--
Reg Garbett


R. McCarty said:
Chkdsk has two different modes, Read-Only and Fix or Repair. Unless you
ran Chkdsk C: /F (or) /R then the Chkdsk did not make any corrections to
the drive. To gain exclusive use of the drive Chkdsk /F /R must run prior
to
XP loading it's Graphic Interface. To run Chkdsk with this mode.
Click Start, Run (Type) Cmd [Enter]
Chkdsk C: /F
Click to expand...
.....can only be done at boot would you like...
Answer Y, reboot machine
NOTE: Chkdsk with F/ or /R can and sometimes removes data in the course
of fixing problems. DO NOT run Chkdsk in a repair mode
unless
your data is backed up and verified.

Reg Garbett said:
My computer crashed 3 months ago and had use the restore disc that came
with
my computer. The computer works ok now except for deframentation. I
have
just
installed Windows Live One Care which seems operate ok. Did a tune up
and
during the tune up it supposedly defrags the disc, however under the
heading
it states "Unknown error prevented tune-up from performing this task.
Try
running tune up again". This was one of the reasons that I tried the 90
day
free trial of this Windows Live One Care.

Previously ,prior to installing Windows Live One Care I had found this
problem when going to defragmentation on my computer. I had hoped One
Care
would eliminate this problem but it did not.

When I go to defrag my computer and click "analyze" a dialog box comes
up
which states " Defragmentation has been aborted due to inconsistencies
that
were detected in the file system. Please run CHKDSK or SCANDISK on (C:)
to
repair these inconsistencies then run disc defragmentation again". I
ran
the
CHKDISK several times and went back to the defragmentation and clicking
on
"analyze" I keep getting the same dialog box. Thus CHKDISK doesn't do
anything to repair the problem.

Checking the log file on Windows Live One Care re the defragmentation
attempt it stated "This task was not performed because of an internal
error".

Any help with this problem woud be appreciated.

Thank you


-
Reg Garbett
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
Reg Garbett said:
I was not aware that there was something else othwer than chkdsk which is
what I ran. Mr. Mccarty's response and yours indicated otherwise. I'm a
bit
confused on Mr. Mccartys response and will have to look at it further.
Confused as to what I have to save to prevent further problems.Will advise
Mr. Mccarty also.

Thank you
Click to expand...
Perhaps it would help us if you would tell us how you are running chkdsk
because it can be run from the "My Computer" display or it can be run from
cmd.

There is only one program involved. Chkdsk /r tells chkdsk to repair any
file system errors that it finds. The "/r" part of the command is passed to
chkdsk.
If you leave off the "/r" then you are telling chkdsk to just check but not
repair.

Jim
 
Thank you for your patience and taking the time to explain the questions that
I had. I will try to save the info mentioned and then try the chkdsk (F) and
see what happens.

Thank you.
--
Reg Garbett


R. McCarty said:
Everybody starts somewhere with PCs, so no apology is necessary.

Windows Graphic User Interface is just a technical term for the screen
and the clickable things you can do with it. Windows boots in phases
which is why you see the XP Flag before the desktop appears. Many
things use the disk drive while windows is running. Chkdsk with a Fix
or Repair needs to exclusively use the drive with no other app or driver
opening/accessing files.

Chkdsk with /F or R must be queued up to run in the period before
the desktop ( GUI ) appears. To do this:
Click Start, Run ( Type ) Cmd [Enter]
Chkdsk C: /F [Enter]
Click to expand...
Answer Y to perform at next boot.
Reboot the computer.

Backups are critical, a hard drive has NO/ZERO permanency about it.
Any drive can fail at any time. Data on the drive can also get corrupted
without the drive physically failing. This is what is going on with your PC.
Chkdsk respects no data, it just fixes the problems. Before you turn loose
a Chkdsk C: /F you need to make sure your personal data is protected.
This includes My Documents, ( which holds Music/Pictures ) and also
your email storage modules.

A large % of PC users don't understand the risks of working without
proper backups. There is a an old saying of "It's not a matter of if, but
when" your hard drive fails or other issues cause you to loose data.


Reg Garbett said:
Thank you for your response. I was not aware of the chkdsk variations. I
just
entered chkdsk. I have two questions for you since I am not much more than
a
novice here and the questions that I will ask may look dumb to you.

1. Use the chkdsc prior to XP loading graphic interface. What is graphic
interface and how do I recognize it so I can do chkdsk (F) before it
occurs?

2. Do not run chkdsk repair mode unless data is backed up and verified.
What
data are we talking about. Is this something that I have to put on a CD?
Do I
have to set a restore point on my computer?

Sorry if you are frustrated with me but am in the learning phase here
obviously.

Thank you for your assistance. Will wait for your response before I
venture
further.

Regards
--
Reg Garbett


R. McCarty said:
Chkdsk has two different modes, Read-Only and Fix or Repair. Unless you
ran Chkdsk C: /F (or) /R then the Chkdsk did not make any corrections to
the drive. To gain exclusive use of the drive Chkdsk /F /R must run prior
to
XP loading it's Graphic Interface. To run Chkdsk with this mode.
Click Start, Run (Type) Cmd [Enter]
Chkdsk C: /F
.....can only be done at boot would you like...
Answer Y, reboot machine
NOTE: Chkdsk with F/ or /R can and sometimes removes data in the course
of fixing problems. DO NOT run Chkdsk in a repair mode
unless
your data is backed up and verified.

My computer crashed 3 months ago and had use the restore disc that came
with
my computer. The computer works ok now except for deframentation. I
have
just
installed Windows Live One Care which seems operate ok. Did a tune up
and
during the tune up it supposedly defrags the disc, however under the
heading
it states "Unknown error prevented tune-up from performing this task.
Try
running tune up again". This was one of the reasons that I tried the 90
day
free trial of this Windows Live One Care.

Previously ,prior to installing Windows Live One Care I had found this
problem when going to defragmentation on my computer. I had hoped One
Care
would eliminate this problem but it did not.

When I go to defrag my computer and click "analyze" a dialog box comes
up
which states " Defragmentation has been aborted due to inconsistencies
that
were detected in the file system. Please run CHKDSK or SCANDISK on (C:)
to
repair these inconsistencies then run disc defragmentation again". I
ran
the
CHKDISK several times and went back to the defragmentation and clicking
on
"analyze" I keep getting the same dialog box. Thus CHKDISK doesn't do
anything to repair the problem.

Checking the log file on Windows Live One Care re the defragmentation
attempt it stated "This task was not performed because of an internal
error".

Any help with this problem woud be appreciated.

Thank you


-
Reg Garbett
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
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Jim said:
Perhaps it would help us if you would tell us how you are running
chkdsk because it can be run from the "My Computer" display or it
can be run from cmd.

There is only one program involved. Chkdsk /r tells chkdsk to
repair any file system errors that it finds. The "/r" part of the
command is passed to chkdsk.
If you leave off the "/r" then you are telling chkdsk to just check
but not repair.

Jim
Click to expand...


Actually the /r parameter says to do the repair (performed by the /f
parameter) AND check the sectors are readable on the hard disk. /f is
sufficient to repair the corrupted file system. /r fixes the files
AND scans the sectors for reliable reading of them.

Run "chkdsk /?" to find out what the parameters do.
 
Sorry for the delay in getting back. Have been trying to backup as much as I
can before I proceed further. I ran chkdsk via clicking on run and entering
chkdsk if I remember correctly. Not being aware of the "f" or "r" adder it
was not added. I did not use "cmd" or my computer since I did not know how to
use it or look for it on my computer. Still looking at other contributor's
responses and trying to get an understanding of which to use "f" or "r'. Your
assistance is appreciated and look foreward to hearing from you.
 
Thank you for your response and your explanation of the "f" and "r' part of
chkdsk. I clicked on run and entered the chkdsk /? as you advised. When I
clicked on "ok" there was a flash of a black screen for about 1/2 second and
it was gone, so no luck with that. Look foreward to hearing from you.
 
in message
I clicked on run and entered the chkdsk /? as you advised. When I
clicked on "ok" there was a flash of a black screen for about 1/2
second
and it was gone, so no luck with that.
Click to expand...

'chkdsk' is a DOS-mode program. It has no fancy GUI to display a
window on a GUI desktop. You run it at the command line. DOS-mode
programs may open their own console window but few do. You open a DOS
shell (cmd.exe) which creates a shell with its own console window.
When you exit the shell, its console window closes. Load the
command-line interpreter (cmd.exe) to create a DOS shell that opens
its own console window, run the 'chkdsk' program to see its output
within that console window. When 'chkdsk' exits, the console window
remains open because the shell for the command interpreter (cmd.exe)
is still loaded. When you are done, 'exit' or close the console
window for the DOS shell for the command-line interpreter.
 
Instead of running it in the Run box, type "cmd" in the run box and hit
Enter. In the command window that opens type "chkdsk /?" and hit Enter.
You will see the list.
 
Thank you Colin for the info. Following your instruction I was able to see
the list without problem. Everything is easy when you know how, but very
frustrating when you don't ! Thank you.

Reg Garbett
 
You're welcome.

Reg Garbett said:
Thank you Colin for the info. Following your instruction I was able to see
the list without problem. Everything is easy when you know how, but very
frustrating when you don't ! Thank you.

Reg Garbett
Click to expand...
 
Hi Mr. McCarty. I have followed your directions after backing up my files as
best I could and then used the chkdsk C: /F and it cleared my defragmentation
problem. I then did a defragmentation and it worked fine. I rechecked it
again to-day and it worked fine. I had another problem with Roxio easy cd/dvd
creator 6 that I had posted under the video forum but did not get any
response other than one which really did not address the problem. This
posting was 2/21/08. When I eject a disk the computer shuts down and
restarts. The roxio itself works fine. I researched the web and found that
media player 11 causes the problem and also IE 7. I removed media player 11
and rolled back to media player 9 however the problem is still there. I then
re-installed media player 11. IE 7 I did not remove. A dialog box comes up
after restart and advises that windows has recovered from a sderious error
which is apparantly something to do with a driver, however the drivers are
supposedly ok. Have decided to just put up with the problem. I had hoped the
chkdsk would rectify the problem. More importantly the defragmentation now
works ok. I would like to thank you for your kind assistance with this
defragmentation problem and also how to go about the chkdsk proceedure. The
windows live one care also works fine during a tune up and checks the
defragmentation ok. Thank you again for your assistance.

regards
--
Reg Garbett


R. McCarty said:
Everybody starts somewhere with PCs, so no apology is necessary.

Windows Graphic User Interface is just a technical term for the screen
and the clickable things you can do with it. Windows boots in phases
which is why you see the XP Flag before the desktop appears. Many
things use the disk drive while windows is running. Chkdsk with a Fix
or Repair needs to exclusively use the drive with no other app or driver
opening/accessing files.

Chkdsk with /F or R must be queued up to run in the period before
the desktop ( GUI ) appears. To do this:
Click Start, Run ( Type ) Cmd [Enter]
Chkdsk C: /F [Enter]
Click to expand...
Answer Y to perform at next boot.
Reboot the computer.

Backups are critical, a hard drive has NO/ZERO permanency about it.
Any drive can fail at any time. Data on the drive can also get corrupted
without the drive physically failing. This is what is going on with your PC.
Chkdsk respects no data, it just fixes the problems. Before you turn loose
a Chkdsk C: /F you need to make sure your personal data is protected.
This includes My Documents, ( which holds Music/Pictures ) and also
your email storage modules.

A large % of PC users don't understand the risks of working without
proper backups. There is a an old saying of "It's not a matter of if, but
when" your hard drive fails or other issues cause you to loose data.


Reg Garbett said:
Thank you for your response. I was not aware of the chkdsk variations. I
just
entered chkdsk. I have two questions for you since I am not much more than
a
novice here and the questions that I will ask may look dumb to you.

1. Use the chkdsc prior to XP loading graphic interface. What is graphic
interface and how do I recognize it so I can do chkdsk (F) before it
occurs?

2. Do not run chkdsk repair mode unless data is backed up and verified.
What
data are we talking about. Is this something that I have to put on a CD?
Do I
have to set a restore point on my computer?

Sorry if you are frustrated with me but am in the learning phase here
obviously.

Thank you for your assistance. Will wait for your response before I
venture
further.

Regards
--
Reg Garbett


R. McCarty said:
Chkdsk has two different modes, Read-Only and Fix or Repair. Unless you
ran Chkdsk C: /F (or) /R then the Chkdsk did not make any corrections to
the drive. To gain exclusive use of the drive Chkdsk /F /R must run prior
to
XP loading it's Graphic Interface. To run Chkdsk with this mode.
Click Start, Run (Type) Cmd [Enter]
Chkdsk C: /F
.....can only be done at boot would you like...
Answer Y, reboot machine
NOTE: Chkdsk with F/ or /R can and sometimes removes data in the course
of fixing problems. DO NOT run Chkdsk in a repair mode
unless
your data is backed up and verified.

My computer crashed 3 months ago and had use the restore disc that came
with
my computer. The computer works ok now except for deframentation. I
have
just
installed Windows Live One Care which seems operate ok. Did a tune up
and
during the tune up it supposedly defrags the disc, however under the
heading
it states "Unknown error prevented tune-up from performing this task.
Try
running tune up again". This was one of the reasons that I tried the 90
day
free trial of this Windows Live One Care.

Previously ,prior to installing Windows Live One Care I had found this
problem when going to defragmentation on my computer. I had hoped One
Care
would eliminate this problem but it did not.

When I go to defrag my computer and click "analyze" a dialog box comes
up
which states " Defragmentation has been aborted due to inconsistencies
that
were detected in the file system. Please run CHKDSK or SCANDISK on (C:)
to
repair these inconsistencies then run disc defragmentation again". I
ran
the
CHKDISK several times and went back to the defragmentation and clicking
on
"analyze" I keep getting the same dialog box. Thus CHKDISK doesn't do
anything to repair the problem.

Checking the log file on Windows Live One Care re the defragmentation
attempt it stated "This task was not performed because of an internal
error".

Any help with this problem woud be appreciated.

Thank you


-
Reg Garbett
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I have run the chkdsk F sucessfully and it cleared my defragmentation problem
just fine. I also did a defragmentation and it worked fine. I also ran a tune
up on the windows live one care and it checked out the defragentation without
problem. I had hoped that it would clear a problem with my roxio easy cd/dvd
creator 6 where when I eject a disc the computer shuts down and restarts. The
roxio itself operates fine though. Will just live with it. Thank you again
for your assistance.

Regards
 
Hi Jim. A note to advise you that I did the chkdsk F and it worked fine and
cleared the defragmentation problem. I did a defragmentation and it worked
fine also. The windows live one care also worked fine on checking the
defragmentation during a tune up. I had hoped that it would also clear a
problem with the Roxio easy cd/dvd creator 6.Although it works just fine the
problem is that when I eject a disc the computer shuts down and restarts. The
chkdsk did not clear this problem, however will live with it as long as the
defragmentation problem has been resolved. Thank you for your assistance with
this problem, it is much appreciated.

Regards
 
I have done a chkdsk F and it cleared my defragmentaion problem. Ran a
defragmentation and it worked just fine. Also ran the Windowslive one care
tune up and the defragmentation section of the tune up worked fine also. It
did not clear a problem with the roxio easy cd/dvd creator 6 that shuts down
my computer and restarts it when I eject a disc however I can live with it
since the roxio itself works ok. Thank you for your assistance with this
defragmentation problem, it is appreciated.

Regards
 
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