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[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

Chad has a small point with the printer port.
My guess is the person speaking did not speak with authority and was
overruled by those that did.
This does not excuse an apparent promise, but there may be more that is not
seen by us. Perhaps in the communications that Chad conveniently suggests
are "private".

Chad seems to have an axe to grind related to his former Beta days.
He seems to carry it on blindly to Microsoft and against others that seem to
disagree with his way as is often demonstrated in his long rants that
usually go to politics and way off topic.

And as you suggest there is a prioritization to bugs in any system.
If a product is to be released, a line must be drawn at some point.
Security issues are usually major candidates for must fix.
The order of items in a drop down such as Chad is complaining is probably
very low since all that needs to be done is for the user to select the
correct item.
But often that is not necessary as I proved with my older HP USB printer
which was immediately properly detected without any intervention on my part
and runs well with native RTM Vista drivers.
Microsoft probably had other issues that were more important and demanded
the limited resources rather than this minor and often a non issue.

 

[Mr. Vista]

you "lucky b@stard"

I must be one ot those lucky b@stards. Because all my drivers work all my
peripherals work well; my hardware works great in Vista.

 

[Mr. Vista]

Is "Mat Kimball" your real name?.

Chad has a small point with the printer port.
My guess is the person speaking did not speak with authority and was
overruled by those that did.
This does not excuse an apparent promise, but there may be more that is
not seen by us. Perhaps in the communications that Chad conveniently
suggests are "private".

Chad seems to have an axe to grind related to his former Beta days.
He seems to carry it on blindly to Microsoft and against others that seem
to disagree with his way as is often demonstrated in his long rants that
usually go to politics and way off topic.

And as you suggest there is a prioritization to bugs in any system.
If a product is to be released, a line must be drawn at some point.
Security issues are usually major candidates for must fix.
The order of items in a drop down such as Chad is complaining is probably
very low since all that needs to be done is for the user to select the
correct item.
But often that is not necessary as I proved with my older HP USB printer
which was immediately properly detected without any intervention on my
part and runs well with native RTM Vista drivers.
Microsoft probably had other issues that were more important and demanded
the limited resources rather than this minor and often a non issue.

 

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

Yes, I have used JJ in one form or another for many years and many know me
by one or both.
For some reason only known to Chad, he likes to post it.
Apparently he also feels the need to change the title of threads.
Perhaps he gets an ego boost from such antics.
Also probable he is unaware that by changing the thread name, he disrupts
some whose newsreader sorts by thread name.
If he is aware, he simply does not care about others and is simply being
rude again.
But that's Chad again.

 

[Chad Harris]

The drop down is a priority when your printer won't print. I don't know
anyone who is happy with a computer and a printer that doesn't print. Maybe
that's the case with people you are surrounded by Kimball. Many users never
find out about that drop down or its connection to their printer not
working, even when they call so-called Tech Support most of whom aren't
aware of its impact from HP or Brother or another printer company.

Only a moron would think it would take more than five minutes to change the
drop down for Microsoft. What a ridiculous sycophantic stance. It is
significantly important to a large number of people whose printers would
work if they found the drop down. Try a few printer forums.

This discussion was had with a lot of us and Tali Roth. She runs the Vista
printer teams and is the PM for them. Tali wasn't overrulled; they were
just careless and in this case defaulted a parallel port in a USB world
incompetently. As I said, but you ignored there were multiple repeat
discussions in different venues and I posted just one of them. It wasn't a
small point to any of us and only a moron would think thousands of printers
now not working in Vista is a small point. The point will become even
larger as many bugs will come January 30, 2007 when there will be a large
backlash against what Microsoft didn't fix in Vista and their horrendous PSS
outsourced to Convergys who outsources it to Indians who can't speak English
and know nothing about Windows or Windows Vista or Office. Not because they
are Indians for the dim witted who would construe this as an indictment of
people with Indian backgrounds, but because they are poorly trained
individuals who are cheap labor with butts seated in India.

Interesting you consider thousands of printers working a small point. It
ain't small if one person can't use their printer that could who doesn't
know that MSFT stupidlly defaulted a parallel port when printers ahven't
been sold with parallel only ports since the days of Windows 98.

The axe to grind is to fix things that should have been fixed that were
pointed out by a lot of us carefully when things should have been fixed
****In Microsoft's not Chad's lol Beta days.***

Because if I had received the bugs that MSFT did, I would have fixed them.

I understand prioritization so save the explanation for any kids someone is
ridiculous enough to have with you. There was no excuse for the large
number of things shipped broken.

The interesting thing about a Microsoft sycophant is they will defend
anything no matter how ridiculous when there was a compelling, obvious, and
consummately constructive reason to fix it.

CH

 

[Mr. Vista]

I agree that changing the thread name does make searches difficult.

 

[Dale]

As if any searcher wants to find anything in this thread. LOL

Dale

 

[Guest]

I use windows vista business at home, but I don't understand why this version
didn't have parent control??????

Should Microsoft add it on ?

 

[Chad Harris]

I hadn't look for parental control in Vista Biz and if it's not there then I
believe of course they should add it on. We have a significant exponential
growth of people who telecommute and have businesses large or small that
they use and run from home all the time.

Howver, if you do a google,dogpile, msn search for net nanny/parental
control type apps there are many excellent free ones and some articles on
the Tech TV site archived discussing them. I don't use it, so I'm not in a
position to compare Vista's parental control with others, but I know there
are good 3 party apps on the web for the downloading.

Good luck,

CH

 

[Puppy Breath]

On the other hand, most businesses aren't interested in parental controls.
They use Active Directory for access control.