Date of Activation

[kurttrail]

If you do not wish to bother with learning about the
restrictions of an OEM license, then you should not
be posting any "seat-of the-pants" thoughts that are
truly false and misleading.

You gave me a site that you need to sign up as a Microsoft Partner.

I AM NOT A MICROSOFT PARTNER, AND I NEVER INTEND TO BE ONE, AND I NEVER
AGREED TO BECOME A MS PARTNER, EITHER IN THE SYSTEM BUILDERS LICENSE OR
THE END USERS LICENSE!

So your site is totally irrelevant to me, as a non-MSPartner SYSTEM
BUILDER, as a End User, and as a private non-commercial individual.

So shove your MS Partner BS up your ass with your head, Carey!

http://carey.microscum.com

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"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"

 

[Guest]

Final tally for this thread:

Correct information: MVPs - 100% & Trolls: <0>

 

[kurttrail]

Final tally for this thread:

ROFL! Carey and Juppy sitting in a tree. K I SS I N G!

Of course the only other person that would agree with you other than the
proven hypocrite, Juppy, is Lamegirl!

You three deserve each other!

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[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

You very well know driver and BIOS can effectively change the hardware so
that it seems now to the OS.
You also know this is nothing new.

WPA may be flawed, but drivers, BIOS updates etc have little to do with any
flaws.
You also know this.

Nothing of substance in your post was changed, but you are free to whine
about it just the same as usual.

 

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

Typical yet again.
When you lack ability, you feel the need to personally attack people and
organizations to make up.
Whether your attacks are taken as such is irrelevant, it is your need as
clearly demonstrated in your newsgroup posts and your website.
If you claim otherwise, you are still in denial since you are unable to post
or have a website without the insults.
Your site and posts can not stand on their own without the attacks. They do
not now and you are unable to prove otherwise.

Post again to feed your EGO, for some reason, it appears your ego needs a
lot from here even though there are far better places.

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[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

Alias;
Read my post to the OP where I gave an answer.
I don't know the answer to the OPs question since the pertinent details were
left out.
The details missing from the OPs post would help give a more specific
answer.

As for what can trigger activation, you and I both know the list is
extensive.
Reinstalling Windows or even starting a Windows installation.
Hardware changes which also includes drivers and BIOS.
It seems some software has caused activation.
The list goes on.

Whether WPA is flawed or not is a matter of opinion.
There seem to be more problems lately but the critics often grab onto any as
proof while not all instances are proof of anything.
Like anything man made, WPA is not perfect.
There is much written about WPA, much of it biased to the point it is
useless.
Do you know of any extensive studies done about WPA without the bias that
renders them meaningless? I don't.

 

[Six Underground]

Of course nothing but hardware changes is supposed to trigger
activation

In the majority of cases this is most likely correct. However, the
generic OEM EULA states:

"You may also need to reactivate the SOFTWARE if you modify your
computer hardware or alter the SOFTWARE."

I'm not certain about what they mean when they say "alter the
software", but there you have it.

6U

 

[Six Underground]

How can I find out when I last went through the process of activation. I
have XP PRO.

Open your windows/system32 directory. Look for the file named
WPA.BAK and note the file date. For me, at least, this has always
produced my last activation date. Your mileage may vary.

Take care;

6U

 

[Ron Martell]

Open your windows/system32 directory. Look for the file named
WPA.BAK and note the file date. For me, at least, this has always
produced my last activation date. Your mileage may vary.

Take care;

6U

Aha. The right answer at last.


Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
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On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

"Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference
has never been in bed with a mosquito."

 

[Alias]

Alias;
Read my post to the OP where I gave an answer.
I don't know the answer to the OPs question since the pertinent details were
left out.
The details missing from the OPs post would help give a more specific
answer.

As for what can trigger activation, you and I both know the list is
extensive.
Reinstalling Windows or even starting a Windows installation.
Hardware changes which also includes drivers and BIOS.
It seems some software has caused activation.
The list goes on.

Whether WPA is flawed or not is a matter of opinion.
There seem to be more problems lately but the critics often grab onto any as
proof while not all instances are proof of anything.
Like anything man made, WPA is not perfect.
There is much written about WPA, much of it biased to the point it is
useless.
Do you know of any extensive studies done about WPA without the bias that
renders them meaningless? I don't.

Yeah, a big study. It's called Windows 95, 98, Me, NT, and W2K. MS made
billions and billions of dollars in that study and customers didn't have
to deal with WPA, WGA or WGAII.

Alias

 

[kurttrail]

Typical yet again.
When you lack ability, you feel the need to personally attack people
and organizations to make up.
Whether your attacks are taken as such is irrelevant, it is your need
as clearly demonstrated in your newsgroup posts and your website.
If you claim otherwise, you are still in denial since you are unable
to post or have a website without the insults.
Your site and posts can not stand on their own without the attacks.
They do not now and you are unable to prove otherwise.

What? Am I supposed argue with an idiot over what the score is?

Post again to feed your EGO, for some reason, it appears your ego
needs a lot from here even though there are far better places.

LOL! Sending relpies to people is the civilized thing to do. It may
feed your ego, but not me.

And at least I have the common decency not to change people's words!
Too bad you cannot say the same, Juppy Baby! ROFL!

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[kurttrail]

In the majority of cases this is most likely correct. However, the
generic OEM EULA states:

"You may also need to reactivate the SOFTWARE if you modify your
computer hardware or alter the SOFTWARE."

I'm not certain about what they mean when they say "alter the
software", but there you have it.

6U

The SOFTWARE would mean Windows XP.

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[TK]

As the guy who started this off, let me say that while it was interesting
reading about all the usual arguments (again), it seems nevertheless that I
have got the answer.
The first response from Carey provided me with 17th October 05. The much
simpler suggestion from Six Underground gave the same date. From memory this
date seems about right.
Is there agreement that the WPA.BAK method is reliable?
Why does my WPA.DBL show the current date.
Many thanks to all.

 

[TK]

1. Open XP's "Help and Support" and click on "Use Tools to view your
computer info....."
2. Click on "Get information about your computer".
3. Then click on "View the status of my system hardware and software"
and look under "System Software - Date Created".
4. This will tell you when Windows XP was installed, but not necessarily
when it was actually activated.

Thanks Carey. This worked as I report later.
Off-topic. I wonder though about the reliability of some of the MS software.
On the same page it shows Memory as 256, when I know the memory is 512 and
this is confirmed in Systems Properties. There are 2x 256s and this software
is obviously only picking up one of them.

 

[nubian]

Wrong. Anyone who recently purchased or purchases a new
generic OEM version of Windows XP are now considered
"System Builders" and must abide by the System
Builder's licensing agreement.

OK, so then they are considered system builders. How does that make me
wrong when I say that these licensing terms apply to system builders only?

 

[nubian]

ROFL! Carey and Juppy sitting in a tree. K I SS I N G!

Of course the only other person that would agree with you other than the
proven hypocrite, Juppy, is Lamegirl!

You three deserve each other!

MVP (Micro-Verified-Penis) circle jerk!

 

[Ron Martell]

As the guy who started this off, let me say that while it was interesting
reading about all the usual arguments (again), it seems nevertheless that I
have got the answer.
The first response from Carey provided me with 17th October 05. The much
simpler suggestion from Six Underground gave the same date. From memory this
date seems about right.
Is there agreement that the WPA.BAK method is reliable?
Why does my WPA.DBL show the current date.
Many thanks to all.

WPA.DBL is the active file that is checked each time the computer is
started up, and something in the process also changes the date of the
file. Perhaps some additional information is written to the file each
startup. WPA.BAK is a backup copy that is created at the time of
activation.

At least that is my understanding of the process. Microsoft is quite
reluctant to disclose many of the details of exactly how activation
works, as this may lead to additional methods of defeating it.

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2006)
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

"Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference
has never been in bed with a mosquito."