CTRL-ALT-DEL logon

[Guest]

Hi,
Im using Vista Home Premium, and am trying to remove the welocme screen and
switch back to the XP style ctrl-alt-del logon. I don't seem to have the
afore mentioned 'Local Security Policy' option in control panel, neither can
I locate the 'C:\Windows\System32\gpedit.msc ' file. Any other ideas, or is
it not possible with the home premium version of vista?
Cheers,
Matt.

 

[Guest]

I would think Home premium would have these tools but try it this way.

From the run command type mmc. Then add "Group Policy Object Editor" by
going to file-->Add Remove Snap-in-->Select the GP editor-->click add-->click
finish on the wizard screen--> then finally OK. The settings you are looking
for are under Computer configuration-->Window Settings-->Security
Settings-->Local Policies-->Security Options.

 

[Guest]

Thanks for your help Sam.
I don't seem to have the 'Group policy object editor' on the list of
available snap-ins.
Any ideas? Matt.

 

[Guest]

Looking at the comparison charts for the various Vista versions, it appears
that the Home Premium version does not have Group Policy Support. Perhaps
there is a registry key that can be modified but I am not sure where it is
right now.

 

[Guest]

Does Home premium have the netplwiz command? Try that and look at the
"advanced" tab for "Secure Logon".

 

[Ronnie Vernon MVP]

Matt

The classic logon screen is no longer available in Vista. It's possible to
set the require CTRL+ALT+DEL to log on, but pressing these keys will still
take you to the standard Welcome screen.

Also, the MSC tools are not included in either of the Home editions of
Vista. You need to have Business, Enterprise, or Ultimate to get these.

 

[Guest]

I found this article,
http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/enable-ctrlaltdelete-for-vista-logon-screen/
which describes Open the Advanced User Accounts panel by typing in netplwiz
into the start menu search box, and hitting enter. Then click the Advanced
tab, and you’ll see an option for secured log on. There is a check box that
says for added security you can require te user to press CTRL+ALT+DEL before
logging on. I am logged in as an administrator and that option is greyed
out. Any thoughts.

 

[Jane C]

Bryan, which Edition of Vista are you running? That option does appear for
me in Business Edition, ie it is not greyed out.

 

[Ronnie Vernon MVP]

Bryan

If that box is not available, do you have User Account Control (UAC) turned
off? If so, this could be the problem.

Regardless, this will not help with what you want to do. Checking that box
will simply display the message "Press CTRL+ALT+DEL to log on" on the
Welcome screen when you restart. When you press the keys, it will take you
to the standard Welcome screen.

 

[Ronnie Vernon MVP]

Hi Jane

Bryan is running Home Premium.

Can you confirm what I'm seeing with these settings. Using the netplwiz and
checking the CAD option, what do you see when you reboot?

I am seeing the same behavior that I described in a previous message, where
the firsat log on screen has the message, "Press CTRL+ALT+DEL to log on" and
pressing these keys simply displays the standard Welcome screen with the
user accounts displayed. I tested this on Home Premium and Ultimate.

 

[Jane C]

Hi Ronnie,

I see exactly the same thing that you do.

 

[Ronnie Vernon MVP]

Jane

Thank you very much. I do so much tweaking, in the course of a day, that
sometimes I'm not really sure that my system is behaving like it should. <g>

 

[Guest]

I am running windows Vista Business on a new IBM t60 laptop. I still have
the same behavior.
UAC Settings
UAC Admin approval Mode for Built-in Admin acount: disabled
UAC Behavior of the elevation prompt for administrators: prompt
UAC Behavior of elevation prompt for standard users: prompt
UAC Detect application installation and prompt elevation: enabled
UAC: Only elevate exe thta are signed: Disabled
UAC Only elevate UIAcess application that are installed in secure location:
enabled
UAC: Run all administrators in Admin Approval Mode: enabled
UAC Switch to secure desktop when prompting for elevation: enabled
UAC Virtualize file and registry write failures to per user locations: enabled

 

[Jane C]

Bryan, your UAC settings are identical to mine.

Secpol.msc > Local Policies > Security Options > Interactive Logono not
require CTRL ALT DEL> Is this policy enabled, disabled or not configured?
If it is enabled, then that would grey out the option in netplwiz.

 

[Ronnie Vernon MVP]

Bryan

All of your UAC settings are set to the defaults, so I don't know why that
option in netplwiz would be disabled?

If you have the Business version of Vista, you can simply use the same
option in secpol.msc to make the change.

In secpol.msc, go to Local Poilicies/Security Options and look for the
"Interactive logon: Do not require CTRL+ALT+DEL" policy. This policy is set
to "not defined" by default. If you set this policy to Disabled, this will
then require that CTRL+ALT+DEL to be required at logon.

 

[Anthony Lisanti]

Is it possible to download the MSC tools? I figured home premium was
comparable to XP Pro. I just thought ultimate was just overkill, and
not needed.

 

[Ronnie Vernon MVP]

Anthony

No, the MSC components are not downloadable. You can still perform most of
the functions the MSC components have, but in the Home versions you do this
with direct edits to the registry.

The upgrade from XP Pro to Vista needs to be to the Business or Ultimate
versions to get the same tools and options.

 

[Guest]

Well, Go to the start menu, and in the search box type: netplwiz and click
the icon that pulls up. Hit advanced, and hit the check box that says:
require users to press CTRL + ALT + DEL, then press ok.

 

[Ronnie Vernon MVP]

Computerwhiz453

One thing to remember is that the CTRL+ALT+DEL prompt at logon behaves
differently in Vista.