creating a workgroup to share a folder


H

hawat.thufir

I'm reading:

"To Connect to a Shared Folder by Using My Network Places
1. On the desktop, double-click My Network Places.
2. Double-click Computers Near Me.
3. Double-click the appropriate computer in your workgroup.
If you are prompted to do so, type the user name and password that
is required to gain access to the computer to which you are connecting.
After you type the appropriate credentials, a window opens that
displays
all of the shared folders and printers on the computer to which you are
connecting.
4. Double-click the shared folder to which you want to gain access.
You then see all of the subfolders and files in that shared folder.
What you can do with those subfolders and files depends on the level
of permission you have been granted."


<http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;301281>
How To Share Files and Folders Over a Network for Workgroups in Windows
2000



and

How browsing browsing over a multi-subnet TCP/IP network works
in a domain and in a workgroup
<http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;117633>


There's a folder, C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Desktop\java,
on one computer, arrakis. I want to share the folder with another
computer, caladan. Arrakis and caladan must first be on the same
workgroup, I think. How is that done? Arrakis Local Area
Connection #1 (D-Link) connects to caladan via a hub.



Microsoft Windows 2000 [Version 5.00.2195]
(C) Copyright 1985-2000 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ipconfig /all

Windows 2000 IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : arrakis
Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : SiS 900 PCI Fast Ethernet
Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0A-E6-A0-24-27
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.175
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, July 14, 2005
3:48:14 AM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, July 19, 2005
6:26:41 PM

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : D-Link DFE-538TX 10/100
Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0D-88-37-FA-22
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . :

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>



Microsoft Windows 2000 [Version 5.00.2195]
(C) Copyright 1985-2000 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ipconfig /all

Windows 2000 IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : CALADAN
Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 3Com EtherLink XL 10/100
PCI
For Complete PC Management NIC (3C905C-TX)
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-50-DA-68-8C-B2
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.2
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . :

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>









thanks,

Thufir
 
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D

Doug Sherman [MVP]

1. On each computer right click on My Computer and select Properties.
Click the Network identification tab, and click the Properties button. This
will show you the computers workgroup name - change one of them to match the
other and click OK. You will then be instructed to reboot.

2. On Arrakis right click on My Network Places and select Properties.
Click Advanced and select Advanced Settings. Make sure that the Local Area
Connection for the DLink adapter is at the top of the binding order.

Doug Sherman
MCSE, MCSA, MCP+I, MVP

I'm reading:

"To Connect to a Shared Folder by Using My Network Places
1. On the desktop, double-click My Network Places.
2. Double-click Computers Near Me.
3. Double-click the appropriate computer in your workgroup.
If you are prompted to do so, type the user name and password that
is required to gain access to the computer to which you are connecting.
After you type the appropriate credentials, a window opens that
displays
all of the shared folders and printers on the computer to which you are
connecting.
4. Double-click the shared folder to which you want to gain access.
You then see all of the subfolders and files in that shared folder.
What you can do with those subfolders and files depends on the level
of permission you have been granted."


<http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;301281>
How To Share Files and Folders Over a Network for Workgroups in Windows
2000



and

How browsing browsing over a multi-subnet TCP/IP network works
in a domain and in a workgroup
<http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;117633>


There's a folder, C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Desktop\java,
on one computer, arrakis. I want to share the folder with another
computer, caladan. Arrakis and caladan must first be on the same
workgroup, I think. How is that done? Arrakis Local Area
Connection #1 (D-Link) connects to caladan via a hub.



Microsoft Windows 2000 [Version 5.00.2195]
(C) Copyright 1985-2000 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ipconfig /all

Windows 2000 IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : arrakis
Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : SiS 900 PCI Fast Ethernet
Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0A-E6-A0-24-27
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.175
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, July 14, 2005
3:48:14 AM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, July 19, 2005
6:26:41 PM

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : D-Link DFE-538TX 10/100
Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0D-88-37-FA-22
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . :

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>



Microsoft Windows 2000 [Version 5.00.2195]
(C) Copyright 1985-2000 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ipconfig /all

Windows 2000 IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : CALADAN
Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 3Com EtherLink XL 10/100
PCI
For Complete PC Management NIC (3C905C-TX)
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-50-DA-68-8C-B2
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.2
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . :

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>









thanks,

Thufir
 
H

hawat.thufir

Doug Sherman [MVP] wrote:
....

Thanks, Doug, that worked great :)


I also want both computers to have internet access. To that end I want
to enable ICS (Internet Connection Sharing). Which Local Area
Connection, #1 or #2, on arrakis should have ICS enabled?

I've changed caladan so that it now gets its IP address dynamically,
yes?

-Thufir
 
D

Doug Sherman [MVP]

OK!

ICS may or may not work. ICS works by providing network address translation
(NAT). It appears that arrakis is already connected to a computer or device
(probabbly a router) that provides NAT. Sometimes running NAT behind
another NAT doesn't work well or at all. However, probably ICS will work -
you should enable it on arrakis' SiS adapter which appears to be Local Area
Connection 2.

If ICS does not work, you could probably get Internet access for CALADAN by
enabling straight through routing on arrakis. However, you would also have
to configure a static return route on the router - the way you do that
varries by product, and you would want to refer to the manual.

Doug Sherman
MCSE, MCSA, MCP+I, MVP
 
H

hawat.thufir

Doug said:
OK!

ICS may or may not work. ICS works by providing network address translation
(NAT). It appears that arrakis is already connected to a computer or device
(probabbly a router) that provides NAT. Sometimes running NAT behind
another NAT doesn't work well or at all. However, probably ICS will work -
you should enable it on arrakis' SiS adapter which appears to be Local Area
Connection 2.

IP routing is enabled, although ipconfig doesn't seem to mention ICS.
The SiS adapter, LAN#2 on arrakis, has ICS enabled. LAN#1 on arrakis,
the D-Link, has a static IP and is on the same network as caladan.
Arrakis can ping caladan and google without changing any network
settings. The shared folder seems to work fine, although I didn't test
it that much since the pings are working ok.

here's a diagram (of sorts):

internet => cable modem
cable modem => router
router => wi-fi adapter
wi-fi adapter => arrakis SiS
arrakis SiS => arrakis D-Link
arrakis D-Link => hub
hub => caladan

the router: SMC7004VWBR
the wi-fi network adapter: asus wl-330g (connects with ethernet cable)



I don't want to give up on ICS quite yet :)
Any thoughts?





C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ipconfig /all

Windows 2000 IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : arrakis
Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : SiS 900 PCI Fast Ethernet
Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0A-E6-A0-24-27
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.175
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Friday, July 15, 2005
3:16:13 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Friday, July 22, 2005
7:28:28 AM

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : D-Link DFE-538TX 10/100
Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0D-88-37-FA-22
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . :

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>
C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ping www.google.com

Pinging www.l.google.com [66.102.7.147] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 66.102.7.147: bytes=32 time=51ms TTL=244
Reply from 66.102.7.147: bytes=32 time=51ms TTL=244
Reply from 66.102.7.147: bytes=32 time=58ms TTL=244
Reply from 66.102.7.147: bytes=32 time=76ms TTL=244

Ping statistics for 66.102.7.147:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 51ms, Maximum = 76ms, Average = 59ms

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ping 192.168.0.2

Pinging 192.168.0.2 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 192.168.0.2: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.0.2: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.0.2: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.0.2: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128

Ping statistics for 192.168.0.2:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>







Microsoft Windows 2000 [Version 5.00.2195]
(C) Copyright 1985-2000 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ipconfig/all

Windows 2000 IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : CALADAN
Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 3Com EtherLink XL 10/100
PCI
For Complete PC Management NIC (3C905C-TX)
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-50-DA-68-8C-B2
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.2
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . :

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>



thanks,

Thufir
 
D

Doug Sherman [MVP]

Try:

1. On CALADAN add:

Default Gateway = 192.168.0.1
Primary DNS Server = 192.168.0.1

2. If #1 doesn't work, try changing the DNS server 192.168.2.1; and if that
doesn't work try the IP address of your ISP's DNS server - you should be
able to get that IP from the router's administration page.

3. If neither #1 or #2 works, change both the Local Area Connection on
CALADAN and the SiS connection on aarakis to obtain an IP and DNS address
automatically - that's the way ICS is supposed to work.

Doug Sherman
MCSE, MCSA, MCP+I, MVP

Doug said:
OK!

ICS may or may not work. ICS works by providing network address translation
(NAT). It appears that arrakis is already connected to a computer or device
(probabbly a router) that provides NAT. Sometimes running NAT behind
another NAT doesn't work well or at all. However, probably ICS will work -
you should enable it on arrakis' SiS adapter which appears to be Local Area
Connection 2.

IP routing is enabled, although ipconfig doesn't seem to mention ICS.
The SiS adapter, LAN#2 on arrakis, has ICS enabled. LAN#1 on arrakis,
the D-Link, has a static IP and is on the same network as caladan.
Arrakis can ping caladan and google without changing any network
settings. The shared folder seems to work fine, although I didn't test
it that much since the pings are working ok.

here's a diagram (of sorts):

internet => cable modem
cable modem => router
router => wi-fi adapter
wi-fi adapter => arrakis SiS
arrakis SiS => arrakis D-Link
arrakis D-Link => hub
hub => caladan

the router: SMC7004VWBR
the wi-fi network adapter: asus wl-330g (connects with ethernet cable)



I don't want to give up on ICS quite yet :)
Any thoughts?





C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ipconfig /all

Windows 2000 IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : arrakis
Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : SiS 900 PCI Fast Ethernet
Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0A-E6-A0-24-27
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.175
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Friday, July 15, 2005
3:16:13 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Friday, July 22, 2005
7:28:28 AM

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : D-Link DFE-538TX 10/100
Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0D-88-37-FA-22
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . :

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>
C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ping www.google.com

Pinging www.l.google.com [66.102.7.147] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 66.102.7.147: bytes=32 time=51ms TTL=244
Reply from 66.102.7.147: bytes=32 time=51ms TTL=244
Reply from 66.102.7.147: bytes=32 time=58ms TTL=244
Reply from 66.102.7.147: bytes=32 time=76ms TTL=244

Ping statistics for 66.102.7.147:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 51ms, Maximum = 76ms, Average = 59ms

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ping 192.168.0.2

Pinging 192.168.0.2 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 192.168.0.2: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.0.2: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.0.2: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.0.2: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128

Ping statistics for 192.168.0.2:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>







Microsoft Windows 2000 [Version 5.00.2195]
(C) Copyright 1985-2000 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ipconfig/all

Windows 2000 IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : CALADAN
Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 3Com EtherLink XL 10/100
PCI
For Complete PC Management NIC (3C905C-TX)
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-50-DA-68-8C-B2
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.2
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . :

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>



thanks,

Thufir
 
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D

Doug Sherman [MVP]

Oops - sorry. In #3 I meant the DLink connection on aarakis - NOT the SiS.

Doug Sherman
MCSE, MCSA, MCP+I, MVP


Doug Sherman said:
Try:

1. On CALADAN add:

Default Gateway = 192.168.0.1
Primary DNS Server = 192.168.0.1

2. If #1 doesn't work, try changing the DNS server 192.168.2.1; and if that
doesn't work try the IP address of your ISP's DNS server - you should be
able to get that IP from the router's administration page.

3. If neither #1 or #2 works, change both the Local Area Connection on
CALADAN and the SiS connection on aarakis to obtain an IP and DNS address
automatically - that's the way ICS is supposed to work.

Doug Sherman
MCSE, MCSA, MCP+I, MVP

Doug said:
OK!

ICS may or may not work. ICS works by providing network address translation
(NAT). It appears that arrakis is already connected to a computer or device
(probabbly a router) that provides NAT. Sometimes running NAT behind
another NAT doesn't work well or at all. However, probably ICS will work -
you should enable it on arrakis' SiS adapter which appears to be Local Area
Connection 2.

IP routing is enabled, although ipconfig doesn't seem to mention ICS.
The SiS adapter, LAN#2 on arrakis, has ICS enabled. LAN#1 on arrakis,
the D-Link, has a static IP and is on the same network as caladan.
Arrakis can ping caladan and google without changing any network
settings. The shared folder seems to work fine, although I didn't test
it that much since the pings are working ok.

here's a diagram (of sorts):

internet => cable modem
cable modem => router
router => wi-fi adapter
wi-fi adapter => arrakis SiS
arrakis SiS => arrakis D-Link
arrakis D-Link => hub
hub => caladan

the router: SMC7004VWBR
the wi-fi network adapter: asus wl-330g (connects with ethernet cable)



I don't want to give up on ICS quite yet :)
Any thoughts?





C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ipconfig /all

Windows 2000 IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : arrakis
Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : SiS 900 PCI Fast Ethernet
Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0A-E6-A0-24-27
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.175
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Friday, July 15, 2005
3:16:13 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Friday, July 22, 2005
7:28:28 AM

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : D-Link DFE-538TX 10/100
Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0D-88-37-FA-22
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . :

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>
C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ping www.google.com

Pinging www.l.google.com [66.102.7.147] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 66.102.7.147: bytes=32 time=51ms TTL=244
Reply from 66.102.7.147: bytes=32 time=51ms TTL=244
Reply from 66.102.7.147: bytes=32 time=58ms TTL=244
Reply from 66.102.7.147: bytes=32 time=76ms TTL=244

Ping statistics for 66.102.7.147:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 51ms, Maximum = 76ms, Average = 59ms

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ping 192.168.0.2

Pinging 192.168.0.2 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 192.168.0.2: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.0.2: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.0.2: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.0.2: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128

Ping statistics for 192.168.0.2:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>







Microsoft Windows 2000 [Version 5.00.2195]
(C) Copyright 1985-2000 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ipconfig/all

Windows 2000 IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : CALADAN
Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 3Com EtherLink XL 10/100
PCI
For Complete PC Management NIC (3C905C-TX)
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-50-DA-68-8C-B2
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.2
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . :

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>



thanks,

Thufir
 
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Hi

You enable ICS on your WAN connection which then assigns 192.168.0.1 to the other NIC i the machine. In my opion ICS is flaky ,although it does work it is no substitue for RRAS server with NAT or Hardware Router :)

All other machines you get their IP from the limited DHCP server ICS has and thats about it, oh you need to 2 NIcs , did I say that? or if using USB for DSL/cable one will do

I only kow this as I had to set this up the other day

Enjoy!

Si
 
H

hawat.thufir

Pardon I'm a bit pedantic about this, this is uncharted territory for
me. I prefer to go one small step at a time :)



arrakis SiS
=============
DHCP enabled
connected to the asus wi-fi network adapter
ICS enabled


arrakis D-Link
=============
static IP address: 192.168.0.1
connected to the hub



caladan
============
static IP address: 192.168.0.2
connected to the hub
can ping 192.168.0.1
can ping wwww.google.com
web browser can't do anything


if caladan can ping www.google.com then why can't it connect with a web
browser? I'll add the default gateway and DNS server to the arrakis
D-Link.


arrakis:

Microsoft Windows 2000 [Version 5.00.2195]
(C) Copyright 1985-2000 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ping www.google.com

Pinging www.l.google.com [66.102.7.104] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 66.102.7.104: bytes=32 time=55ms TTL=244
Reply from 66.102.7.104: bytes=32 time=55ms TTL=244
Reply from 66.102.7.104: bytes=32 time=77ms TTL=244
Reply from 66.102.7.104: bytes=32 time=52ms TTL=244

Ping statistics for 66.102.7.104:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 52ms, Maximum = 77ms, Average = 59ms

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ping 192.168.0.2

Pinging 192.168.0.2 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 192.168.0.2: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.0.2: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.0.2: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.0.2: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128

Ping statistics for 192.168.0.2:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ipconfig /all

Windows 2000 IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : arrakis
Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : SiS 900 PCI Fast Ethernet
Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0A-E6-A0-24-27
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.175
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Saturday, July 16, 2005
8:34:11 AM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Friday, July 22, 2005
7:28:17 AM

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : D-Link DFE-538TX 10/100
Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0D-88-37-FA-22
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . :

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>




caladan:

Microsoft Windows 2000 [Version 5.00.2195]
(C) Copyright 1985-2000 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ping www.google.com

Pinging www.l.google.com [66.102.7.147] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 66.102.7.147: bytes=32 time=56ms TTL=243
Reply from 66.102.7.147: bytes=32 time=52ms TTL=243
Reply from 66.102.7.147: bytes=32 time=79ms TTL=243
Reply from 66.102.7.147: bytes=32 time=56ms TTL=243

Ping statistics for 66.102.7.147:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 52ms, Maximum = 79ms, Average = 60ms

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ping 192.168.0.1

Pinging 192.168.0.1 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128

Ping statistics for 192.168.0.1:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ipconfig /all

Windows 2000 IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : CALADAN
Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mixed
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 3Com EtherLink XL 10/100
PCI
For Complete PC Management NIC (3C905C-TX)
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-50-DA-68-8C-B2
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.2
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>


thanks,

Thufir
 
D

Doug Sherman [MVP]

OK,

Do NOT add the default gateway and DNS entry to aarakis' DLink adapter -
aarakis needs to rely exclusively upon the SiS adapter settings and a
default gateway on the DLink adapter will cause ICS to fail.

By adding the default gateway and DNS entries to Caladan, you are now able
to ping google.com. This indicates that routing, NAT, and DNS are working.
So, I believe the problem is most likely with Internet Explorer. Try:

Open IE and click on Tools/Internet Options.

Click the Connections tab, check the box for Never Dial a Connection, then
click the LAN Settings button. Clear all check boxes and click OK. Close
IE and reboot. Open IE and try to go to http://www.google.com. Do you get
an error message - and if so, what does it say?

Note: Originally, ipconfig /all on Caladan indicated Broadcast Node. Now
it shows Mixed. You can change this back to Broadcast by editing the
registry:

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;160177

Possibly what you are experiencing is the result of double NAT, but I don't
think so. Most likely this is an IE issue.

Doug Sherman
MCSE, MCSA, MCP+I, MVP

Pardon I'm a bit pedantic about this, this is uncharted territory for
me. I prefer to go one small step at a time :)



arrakis SiS
=============
DHCP enabled
connected to the asus wi-fi network adapter
ICS enabled


arrakis D-Link
=============
static IP address: 192.168.0.1
connected to the hub



caladan
============
static IP address: 192.168.0.2
connected to the hub
can ping 192.168.0.1
can ping wwww.google.com
web browser can't do anything


if caladan can ping www.google.com then why can't it connect with a web
browser? I'll add the default gateway and DNS server to the arrakis
D-Link.


arrakis:

Microsoft Windows 2000 [Version 5.00.2195]
(C) Copyright 1985-2000 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ping www.google.com

Pinging www.l.google.com [66.102.7.104] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 66.102.7.104: bytes=32 time=55ms TTL=244
Reply from 66.102.7.104: bytes=32 time=55ms TTL=244
Reply from 66.102.7.104: bytes=32 time=77ms TTL=244
Reply from 66.102.7.104: bytes=32 time=52ms TTL=244

Ping statistics for 66.102.7.104:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 52ms, Maximum = 77ms, Average = 59ms

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ping 192.168.0.2

Pinging 192.168.0.2 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 192.168.0.2: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.0.2: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.0.2: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.0.2: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128

Ping statistics for 192.168.0.2:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ipconfig /all

Windows 2000 IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : arrakis
Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : SiS 900 PCI Fast Ethernet
Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0A-E6-A0-24-27
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.175
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Saturday, July 16, 2005
8:34:11 AM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Friday, July 22, 2005
7:28:17 AM

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : D-Link DFE-538TX 10/100
Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0D-88-37-FA-22
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . :

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>




caladan:

Microsoft Windows 2000 [Version 5.00.2195]
(C) Copyright 1985-2000 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ping www.google.com

Pinging www.l.google.com [66.102.7.147] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 66.102.7.147: bytes=32 time=56ms TTL=243
Reply from 66.102.7.147: bytes=32 time=52ms TTL=243
Reply from 66.102.7.147: bytes=32 time=79ms TTL=243
Reply from 66.102.7.147: bytes=32 time=56ms TTL=243

Ping statistics for 66.102.7.147:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 52ms, Maximum = 79ms, Average = 60ms

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ping 192.168.0.1

Pinging 192.168.0.1 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128

Ping statistics for 192.168.0.1:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ipconfig /all

Windows 2000 IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : CALADAN
Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mixed
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 3Com EtherLink XL 10/100
PCI
For Complete PC Management NIC (3C905C-TX)
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-50-DA-68-8C-B2
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.2
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>


thanks,

Thufir
 
H

hawat.thufir

Doug Sherman [MVP] wrote:
....
Click the Connections tab, check the box for Never Dial a Connection, then
click the LAN Settings button. Clear all check boxes and click OK. Close
IE and reboot. Open IE and try to go to http://www.google.com. Do you get
an error message - and if so, what does it say?
....

on Internet Explorer:

Internet options, Connections tab:
"Choose settings if you need to configure a proxy server for a
connection:
Never dial a connection" (this is selected already, it's greyed out)

clicking on "LAN settings..." gives:
"Automatically detect settings"
(nothing else is selected.

going to, for example, "http://192.168.2.1/" or "http://www.google.com"
gives "Web site found. Waiting for reply..."

I don't think that this is a browser problem because I wasn't able to
telnet from caladan, but was able from arrakis. I pinged a few places
besides google from caladan. Since I got the same results on arrakis,
I interpret that to mean that, for example, microsoft doesn't like
getting pinged :)

I'm thinking of sticking with something "lower down" than a full
browser, something like ftp/telnet, but don't know if that makes sense.


Back to file sharing:
Trying to put a file onto "\\Caladan\fromCaladan\" from arrakis
or
Trying to put a file onto "\\Arrakis\fromArrakis\" from caladan
gives:

Error Copying File or folder
Cannot copy foo.txt: The specified network name is no longer
available.

I'm looking into doing this from the command line to better see what's
going on.

For consistency I copied some stuff from the caladan command line onto
a floppy, here it is (I don't think microsoft likes pings):

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>
C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>
C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ping 192.168.0.1

Pinging 192.168.0.1 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128

Ping statistics for 192.168.0.1:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ping www.google.com

Pinging www.l.google.com [66.102.7.99] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 66.102.7.99: bytes=32 time=54ms TTL=243
Reply from 66.102.7.99: bytes=32 time=54ms TTL=243
Reply from 66.102.7.99: bytes=32 time=77ms TTL=243
Reply from 66.102.7.99: bytes=32 time=54ms TTL=243

Ping statistics for 66.102.7.99:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 54ms, Maximum = 77ms, Average = 59ms

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ping www.microsoft.com

Pinging lb1.www.ms.akadns.net [207.46.198.60] with 32 bytes of data:

Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.

Ping statistics for 207.46.198.60:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ping www.amazon.com

Pinging www.amazon.com [207.171.163.90] with 32 bytes of data:

Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.

Ping statistics for 207.171.163.90:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ping www.apple.com

Pinging www.apple.com.akadns.net [17.112.152.32] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 17.112.152.32: bytes=32 time=53ms TTL=49
Reply from 17.112.152.32: bytes=32 time=54ms TTL=49
Reply from 17.112.152.32: bytes=32 time=84ms TTL=49
Reply from 17.112.152.32: bytes=32 time=54ms TTL=49

Ping statistics for 17.112.152.32:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 53ms, Maximum = 84ms, Average = 61ms

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ping www.asus.com

Pinging www.asus.com [216.148.234.177] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 216.148.234.177: bytes=32 time=71ms TTL=239
Reply from 216.148.234.177: bytes=32 time=55ms TTL=239
Reply from 216.148.234.177: bytes=32 time=78ms TTL=239
Reply from 216.148.234.177: bytes=32 time=50ms TTL=239

Ping statistics for 216.148.234.177:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 50ms, Maximum = 78ms, Average = 63ms

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ipconfig /all

Windows 2000 IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : CALADAN
Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mixed
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 3Com EtherLink XL 10/100
PCI
For Complete PC Management NIC (3C905C-TX)
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-50-DA-68-8C-B2
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.107
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, July 17, 2005
1:03:45
AM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, July 24, 2005
1:03:45
AM

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>



should I change the node type to broadcast? Maybe there are more
diagnostic type things to run, I'm looking into that.




thanks,

Thufir
 
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H

hawat.thufir

pscyime said:
Hi

You enable ICS on your WAN connection which then assigns 192.168.0.1 to
the other NIC i the machine. In my opion ICS is flaky ,although it does
work it is no substitue for RRAS server with NAT or Hardware Router :)

RRAS:
<http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;EN-US;Q241545> is
that what you mean?

The WAN connection is the SiS NIC on computer arrakis. Then the D-Link
arrakis NIC connects to the hub, and then to the computer caladan. The
arrakis SiS NIC has ICS enabled. yes?

an asus wl-330g, in ethernet adapter mode, is connected to the arrakis
SiS NIC, see
All other machines you get their IP from the limited DHCP server ICS
has and thats about it, oh you need to 2 NIcs , did I say that? or if
using USB for DSL/cable one will do

I only kow this as I had to set this up the other day

Enjoy!

Si
....

ipconfig/all from arrakis:


Microsoft Windows 2000 [Version 5.00.2195]
(C) Copyright 1985-2000 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ipconfig /all

Windows 2000 IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : arrakis
Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : SiS 900 PCI Fast Ethernet
Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0A-E6-A0-24-27
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.175
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, July 17, 2005
8:49:19 AM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, July 24, 2005
8:49:19 AM

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : D-Link DFE-538TX 10/100
Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0D-88-37-FA-22
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . :

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>

thanks,

Thufir
 
D

Doug Sherman [MVP]

1. Clear the "Automatically detect settings" check box. Having this box
check can cause a delay/timeout that would give the result you are
experiencing.

2. Try \\192.168.0.1\fromAarakis and \\192.168.0.2\fromCaladan.

3. Yes, you should reset Caladan to broadcast node - mixed node could cause
file sharing glitches.

4. Many sites such as microsoft.com block ping echoes. But, if you ping
the name and it resolves to an IP address, at least you know that DNS is
working. If you run pathping or tracert microsoft.com, you will be able to
tell if the packet is getting to Seattle.

5. At this point the most informative test to run is to set Caladan to
obtain an address automatically and connect it directly to the router. If
you get Internet access this way, then you know the problem is with ICS or
double NAT. You could avoid this whole issue by uninstalling ICS on
Aarakis, configuring straight through routing, give Aarakis a staic IP, and
add a static route on the router. That way you would only have a single NAT
device.

Doug Sherman
MCSE, MCSA, MCP+I, MVP

Doug Sherman [MVP] wrote:
...
Click the Connections tab, check the box for Never Dial a Connection, then
click the LAN Settings button. Clear all check boxes and click OK. Close
IE and reboot. Open IE and try to go to http://www.google.com. Do you get
an error message - and if so, what does it say?
...

on Internet Explorer:

Internet options, Connections tab:
"Choose settings if you need to configure a proxy server for a
connection:
Never dial a connection" (this is selected already, it's greyed out)

clicking on "LAN settings..." gives:
"Automatically detect settings"
(nothing else is selected.

going to, for example, "http://192.168.2.1/" or "http://www.google.com"
gives "Web site found. Waiting for reply..."

I don't think that this is a browser problem because I wasn't able to
telnet from caladan, but was able from arrakis. I pinged a few places
besides google from caladan. Since I got the same results on arrakis,
I interpret that to mean that, for example, microsoft doesn't like
getting pinged :)

I'm thinking of sticking with something "lower down" than a full
browser, something like ftp/telnet, but don't know if that makes sense.


Back to file sharing:
Trying to put a file onto "\\Caladan\fromCaladan\" from arrakis
or
Trying to put a file onto "\\Arrakis\fromArrakis\" from caladan
gives:

Error Copying File or folder
Cannot copy foo.txt: The specified network name is no longer
available.

I'm looking into doing this from the command line to better see what's
going on.

For consistency I copied some stuff from the caladan command line onto
a floppy, here it is (I don't think microsoft likes pings):

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>
C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>
C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ping 192.168.0.1

Pinging 192.168.0.1 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=128

Ping statistics for 192.168.0.1:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ping www.google.com

Pinging www.l.google.com [66.102.7.99] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 66.102.7.99: bytes=32 time=54ms TTL=243
Reply from 66.102.7.99: bytes=32 time=54ms TTL=243
Reply from 66.102.7.99: bytes=32 time=77ms TTL=243
Reply from 66.102.7.99: bytes=32 time=54ms TTL=243

Ping statistics for 66.102.7.99:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 54ms, Maximum = 77ms, Average = 59ms

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ping www.microsoft.com

Pinging lb1.www.ms.akadns.net [207.46.198.60] with 32 bytes of data:

Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.

Ping statistics for 207.46.198.60:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ping www.amazon.com

Pinging www.amazon.com [207.171.163.90] with 32 bytes of data:

Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.

Ping statistics for 207.171.163.90:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ping www.apple.com

Pinging www.apple.com.akadns.net [17.112.152.32] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 17.112.152.32: bytes=32 time=53ms TTL=49
Reply from 17.112.152.32: bytes=32 time=54ms TTL=49
Reply from 17.112.152.32: bytes=32 time=84ms TTL=49
Reply from 17.112.152.32: bytes=32 time=54ms TTL=49

Ping statistics for 17.112.152.32:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 53ms, Maximum = 84ms, Average = 61ms

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ping www.asus.com

Pinging www.asus.com [216.148.234.177] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 216.148.234.177: bytes=32 time=71ms TTL=239
Reply from 216.148.234.177: bytes=32 time=55ms TTL=239
Reply from 216.148.234.177: bytes=32 time=78ms TTL=239
Reply from 216.148.234.177: bytes=32 time=50ms TTL=239

Ping statistics for 216.148.234.177:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 50ms, Maximum = 78ms, Average = 63ms

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ipconfig /all

Windows 2000 IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : CALADAN
Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mixed
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 3Com EtherLink XL 10/100
PCI
For Complete PC Management NIC (3C905C-TX)
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-50-DA-68-8C-B2
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.107
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, July 17, 2005
1:03:45
AM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, July 24, 2005
1:03:45
AM

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>



should I change the node type to broadcast? Maybe there are more
diagnostic type things to run, I'm looking into that.




thanks,

Thufir
 
H

hawat.thufir

Doug Sherman [MVP] wrote:
....
5. At this point the most informative test to run is to set Caladan to
obtain an address automatically and connect it directly to the router. If
you get Internet access this way, then you know the problem is with ICS or
double NAT. You could avoid this whole issue by uninstalling ICS on
Aarakis, configuring straight through routing, give Aarakis a staic IP, and
add a static route on the router. That way you would only have a single NAT
device.
....

I can't connect Caladan or Arrakis directly to the router. When the
wl-330g wi-fi network adapter is plugged into caladan, and caladan is
set to DHCP, then yes, caladan connects to the internet fine.

are you suggesting:

arrakis SiS NIC static IP, 192.168.1.1
arrakis D-Link NIC static IP, 192.168.0.1
caladan NIC static IP, 192.168.0.2


internet => cable modem
cable modem => router
router => wi-fi adapter
wi-fi adapter => arrakis SiS
arrakis SiS => arrakis D-Link
arrakis D-Link => hub
hub => caladan

with the wl-330g connect to the arrakis SiS NIC, and the arrakis D-Link
NIC and caladan connected from the hub?


I don't have physical access to the router.


thanks,

Thufir
 
D

Doug Sherman [MVP]

Almost, but not quite. The connections you describe are correct, but
Aarakis needs the same (or a compatible) IP on the SiS adapter as it now
has:

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.175
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1

The reason this must be statically configured is that the router will need a
static route which points to an unchanging IP - eg. 192.168.2.175. This is
where the router will send packets inorder to reach 192.168.0.2. Most
wireless oruters support static routes. How you configure such a route
varries by product - - you will have to consult the manual.

Also, per ipconfig /all routing is already enabled. However, this may not
be the case after you disable ICS. If ipconfig /all says No for IP Rounting
Enabled after you disable ICS, do this:

Start/Run regedit ENTER

Navigate to:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Parameters

In the right pane double click on IPEnableRouter and set its value to 1.

Also, on Caladan you will need to change the Primary DNS server address to
192.168.2.1.

Doug Sherman
MCSE, MCSA, MCP+I, MVP
 
D

Doug Sherman [MVP]

Oops - I just noticed this part:

"I don't have physical access to the router."

Not sure what this means, but if you cannot access the router, you cannot
configure a static route. What happens if on Aarakis you click Start/Run
http://192.168.2.1 ENTER.

????

Doug Sherman
MCSE, MCSA, MCP+I, MVP
 
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D

Doug Sherman [MVP]

If you cannot configue a static route on the router, try this:

1. Connect the wl-330g to the hub - use the uplink port if it has one.
Skip a port and connect the Dlink adapter on Aarakis and the adapter on
Caladan to the hub.

2. Disable ICS on Aarakis.

3. Reboot both computers.

Depending on the capabilities of the wl-330g (not familiar with it) and the
router settings, both computers may be able to get 192.168.2.x addresses and
be able to share files and access the Internet.

Doug Sherman
MCSE, MCSA, MCP+I, MVP
 
H

hawat.thufir

Doug Sherman [MVP] wrote:
....
....

I'm not at that computer at the moment, but I can tell you what happens
when that address is entered in the browser from arrakis :)

The login page for the SMC7004VWBR router comes up. It's not my
router, I sold it to my neighbor, but I do have wireless access to that
router via the wi-fi
adapter,<http://usa.asus.com/products/communication/wireless/wl-330g/ethernet.htm>.

Pardon if this wasn't clear before, I thought it was. I can only
connect to that router wirelessly, hence the gymnastics.


-Thufir
 
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H

hawat.thufir

Doug said:
If you cannot configue a static route on the router, try this:

1. Connect the wl-330g to the hub - use the uplink port if it has one.
Skip a port and connect the Dlink adapter on Aarakis and the adapter on
Caladan to the hub.
....

I don't know the wl-330g's capabilities in this regard. I've asked
asus to contact me about that:

<http://vip.asus.com/eservice/techmailstatus.aspx?ID=WTM20050718213718607>

which references:

<http://usa.asus.com/products/communication/wireless/wl-330g/ethernet.htm>



-Thufir
 
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