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[Olórin]

I still don't know which is the best for me? All
the reviews say that their product is the best. Decisions, decisions.

There can't be much in it or it would show through in all the reviews.

I suggest trawling through plenty of reviews, to get a feel for the bad as
well as good points, then make a decision - which will have to be yours, we
can't make it for you.

I've used AVG Free for years but in the last fortnight have started trying
out Avast on a different PC. Not because of any dissatisfaction with AVG but
just to see how the other half lives, to get a personal view of the product.

Overriding this, I'd say that of more import than the narrow decision as to
*which* of these products to go for is the implementation of good (safe)
practice when on the Internet.

 

[walt]

Thanks for the information, I am still unsure if it's better to get the
"paid for" with a little more "bells" or just the basic and continue using
my other spam blockers.

 

[Brian A.]

I would go through some of the other options in my tips list.

Don't think that because you *pay* for something it will be any better than a free
option and don't think that the free options being pushed by people on these
newsgroups are *just* because they are free. They do their job as well if not
better than the pay options in the case of the ones that do get pushed. In the
case of AVG and AVAST, etc - the reason they get listed in my tips as well as
McAfee and Norton is that they do the same job as well or better than the latter
two *and* they end up costing less and using up less of your valuable system
resources to do their job.

BS!! Norton, no way - McAfee yes. Granted, where bloat comes into play Symantec
has the leading edge of it, yet all of the other companies are not far behind in
todays times of the ever intensifying battle between the protection providers and
protection busters. As for resource usage, everyones mileage varies in
system/application performance depending on their system setup and maintenence
routine.

According to reports for 2007 alone at av-comparatives, Norton AV performed better
than Avast, AVG and many other products in both the On-Demand comparative and
Retrospective/Pro Active tests, AVG was absolutely pitiful in the Retrospective/Pro
Active test.

Here's the tip I am referring to above:

Tip (9):
What about the dreaded word in the computer world, VIRUS?

Well, there are many products to choose from that will help you prevent
infections from these horrid little applications. Many are FREE to the
home user and which you choose is a matter of taste, really. Many people
have emotional attachments or performance issues with one or another
AntiVirus software. Try some out, read reviews and decide for yourself
which you like more:

( Good Comparison Page for AV software: http://www.av-comparatives.org/ )

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Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

 

[SG]

Is this what you were looking at?
http://www.av-comparatives.org/seiten/ergebnisse_2007_08.php

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All the best,
SG
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[Brian A.]

All 3 of the result reports for 2007. The 2 On-Demand comparative (Feb and Aug)
and 1 Retrospective/Pro Active tests (May), the second Retrospective/Pro Active test
will be soon this month.


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Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

 

[SG]

Brian,

No matter how many test and no matter who does them, it all comes down to
each ones opinion. For instance, from the site you provided has links to
other sites as in this one...
Eddy Willems Free Anti-Virus Consultancy Int. Homepage (WAVCI)

At this site this person says the following....

Hi, this is Eddy Willems official and original homepage for Anti-Virus
consultancy with links to all Anti-Virus sites and companies.
Within these pages you will find The Most Comprehensive List of Anti-Virus
Sites.
Although I am working as Anti-Virus Technology Expert for the anti-virus
industry ( NOXS (Formerly Comsol, Data Alert and Risc),
McAfee, TrendMicro and Symantec )
this site is and will remain always completely independent.

On his Links page is......
http://www.anti-malware.info/download.htm

This page says the following.....

Most security services and software cost money. But....not always!

All have been tested and scanned for malware. But since we did not build
these
tools ourselves, using them is at your own risk.

The first one he list is this and states one of the best.....

Free Anti-Virus Programs
AVG
One of the best (free for all now!)


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SG
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[Brian A.]

Brian,

No matter how many test and no matter who does them, it all comes down to each ones
opinion.

I agree that it all boils down to ones opinion but that doesn't mean I have to
agree with it.

For instance, from the site you provided has links to

other sites as in this one...

I know all about those sites and have been to them. Not only do I look at the test
reports, I also read through any documents they may have stating their method of
testing, type of samples used, criteria for vendor inclusion/exclusion, sorting
methods, etc.

I first responded with my opinion to the statement that Avast and AVG do the same
job as well or better than McAfee and NAV.

I didn't provide the sites link, I used the link to go to the site so I could have
a look at the reports myself and then I responded back on what the test reports
stated. That was not my opinion, it was what was reported for each of the tests done
by the developers of that site.

On his Links page is......
http://www.anti-malware.info/download.htm

This page says the following.....

Most security services and software cost money. But....not always!

All have been tested and scanned for malware. But since we did not build these
tools ourselves, using them is at your own risk.

That's a correct legal statement, they don't develope the AV apps that they provide
the developers links to on their site

The first one he list is this and states one of the best.....

Free Anti-Virus Programs
AVG
One of the best (free for all now!)

And that's his stated opinion, one which I disagree with.

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SG
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Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

 

[walt]

Thanks everyone for all the input, I have to try and absorb all this
information and come up with the correct decision. So much to look at and so
little time to do it. I have to make sure it is easy for my wife as she is
the one that does most of the surfing. I work afternoons and this gives her
something to do while I'm not here (hahaha). I know this is of subject just
thought I would throw it in.