Cpu Upgrade re-Activation needed?

[health_wellness]

You're the one who seems to have thoughts of "Junior High School".
Unlike you, I hadn't thought about it since passing puberty back in the
50's. You'll understand when you grow up there Kid. You also learn to
develop self-thought and less likely to spew the programmed company
rhetoric as maturity comes on. But it takes more than maturity to
learn how to not lie.

See ya' Kid.....

NIK

 

[Shooter]

Today,
anyone wishing to circumvent the validation and/or the new verification
schemes can simply run small specific utilities that can be found
anywhere on the web

You mean Activation instead of Validation don't you?

I read that they had cracked MS's verification during updates hoop
within days of its implementation.

I usually do a full restoration twice a year on my White Boxes just to
clear the trash and junk out. To keep from having to deal with MS's
silly shit, every time I reload my legally paid for copies of XP, I
simply made a ghost image of the systems as they stand with nothing
more than the OS loaded and Activated. Then every 6 months when I
decide to do a restoration, I just restore from that already activated
image. When I did SP2, I did it on the fresh restored image of
already activated SP1 and then made a new image. I've had these two
copies of XP since 2001 now and have reloaded them (from ghost images)
around 10-12 times each and only activated them one time each (the
first time I used them).

Now, I haven't done a lot of hardware upgrades or not enough to make
MS think my copies of XP have all of a sudden changed from being
legally paid for to all of a sudden stolen. But, if and when I do
start hardware upgrades and face having to prove my innocence of
thievery to MS, I may just opt to use the cracks and not be bothered
with Bill's silly shit even though I am the legally paid for owner of
the software. I already know a lot of computer "tinkerers" that have
cracked their legally paid for copies of XP so they don't have to be
activating every time they turn around and change a part out.

Regards,

 

[Guest]

The dilemma is with the activation process yes, but you have to register the
generated numbers after you activate you copy of XP with the numbers found on
the folder the cd came in … to a live operator…. even after you have already
gone through that process before.
This is totally mad… this product is not mine, even though I paid for it,
with my hard earned money, not with a credit card.


I’ll do a google to see if there is a good work-around for this situation as
I am not a doctor… I don’t have patience.

 

[Lil' Dave]

No. You may have to re-activate XP again. If considered minor, it can
happen on-line. If considered major, a phone call may be needed to MS.
This phone number is provided on-screen when needed, automatically.
After removing, and adding hardware to one particular PC many, many times,
the re-activate by phone requirement raised its head. Believe it was when I
disabled an onboard LAN chip, and to allow installation of a firewire card
(irq resource problem, long story), and installed the firewire card. The
phone call lasted ten minutes, the new activation code was provided. No
problem.
If you've never made any hardware changes before, my guess is activation
code change by phone won't be needed.
No one is required to register their copy of XP.

 

[Lil' Dave]

The activation scheme by MS is not meant to stop illegal installations by
"versed" thieves. Its to thwart the casual multi-PC installations by the
common user. In thie case of the OP, if illegal, sounds like the latter.
The former wouldn't be asking in a public forum.

If my perception is incorrect, please feel free to correct.

 

[Shooter]

The activation scheme by MS is not meant to stop illegal installations by
"versed" thieves. Its to thwart the casual multi-PC installations by the
common user.

As covered on another thread Dave, if it is MS's intentions to stop
"casual" multi-PC installations (some of the MVPs tried a similar
corporate provided excuse for a while) then that is also a bust
because it has been determined that all the people trying this have
been downloading any number of the many cracks that enable them to
install and use their copies of XP without being bothered by
Activation or Verification. Again, all you are left with is the
Honest Paying Customers dealing with Activation and Verification while
the pirates and "Casual" multi-PC installers go on their unrestricted
merry way.

More corporate provided excuses some of the MVPs tried were: These
cracks are hard to find so your casual computer user will not know
where and how to find them. That excuse was busted by a simple google
search example a while back. I'm not a "casual" computer user but I
do Pay As I Go so don't use cracks but I was able to find 100's of
sites offering cracks that enable one to apply against their own copy
of XP and keep it from doing the Activation and Verification thing.

Another corporate provided excuse some of the MVPs tried was: All of
these cracks are viruses and/or trojans. This is more of a corporate
provided scare tactic than excuse but just the same, held no water as
far as suggesting that All or Most of these cracks were viruses and/or
trojans. I forget now who started the thread but it was determined
that all of the current crack builds for this purpose tested by the
individual on the thread, none of the ones he downloaded contained
Viruses or Trojans. However, he did admit in the thread that only
cracks were downloaded from known sites in the US and Europe and none
from Asian or eastern sites (whatever that means).

Since the "Casual" multi-PC installers become the same as Pirates and
are no longer considered honest paying customers, all you have left
are the Real Honest Paying Customers having to prove that they didn't
steal the software while the "Casual" multi-PC installers & Pirates
use their cracked copies of the software without bother.

Regards,

 

[Peter A. Stavrakoglou]

As covered on another thread Dave, if it is MS's intentions to stop
"casual" multi-PC installations (some of the MVPs tried a similar
corporate provided excuse for a while) then that is also a bust
because it has been determined that all the people trying this have
been downloading any number of the many cracks that enable them to
install and use their copies of XP without being bothered by
Activation or Verification. Again, all you are left with is the
Honest Paying Customers dealing with Activation and Verification while
the pirates and "Casual" multi-PC installers go on their unrestricted
merry way.

More corporate provided excuses some of the MVPs tried were: These
cracks are hard to find so your casual computer user will not know
where and how to find them. That excuse was busted by a simple google
search example a while back. I'm not a "casual" computer user but I
do Pay As I Go so don't use cracks but I was able to find 100's of
sites offering cracks that enable one to apply against their own copy
of XP and keep it from doing the Activation and Verification thing.

Another corporate provided excuse some of the MVPs tried was: All of
these cracks are viruses and/or trojans. This is more of a corporate
provided scare tactic than excuse but just the same, held no water as
far as suggesting that All or Most of these cracks were viruses and/or
trojans. I forget now who started the thread but it was determined
that all of the current crack builds for this purpose tested by the
individual on the thread, none of the ones he downloaded contained
Viruses or Trojans. However, he did admit in the thread that only
cracks were downloaded from known sites in the US and Europe and none
from Asian or eastern sites (whatever that means).

Since the "Casual" multi-PC installers become the same as Pirates and
are no longer considered honest paying customers, all you have left
are the Real Honest Paying Customers having to prove that they didn't
steal the software while the "Casual" multi-PC installers & Pirates
use their cracked copies of the software without bother.

Regards,

Besides the cracked versions of XP, the pirates use what is referred to as
the "Corporate" version of XP which is really the enterprise licensed
version. It requires no activation.

 

[health_wellness]

Yep, I did mean activation. We have all the grandkids this week (for
some reason I was not consulted on) and let me tell you, my little
retirement retreat has been turned up side down and one can not even
think around here right now. I love them all but....

NIK

 

[Guest]

Carey,
I replaced my motherboard and need to re-activate by phone. I get a message
saying that my numbers aren't recognized. What do I need to do?

 

[Alias]

Carey,
I replaced my motherboard and need to re-activate by phone. I get a message
saying that my numbers aren't recognized. What do I need to do?

Reactivate by phone (wait for an operator) and, under no circumstances
let Carey convince you that you have to buy another XP or that changing
your motherboard constitutes a "new computer".

Alias

 

[Carey Frisch [MVP]]

If you replaced your motherboard with a different model,
and also have an OEM version of Windows XP installed,
then that could be the problem. An OEM license is
permanently tied to the motherboard and becomes invalid
if you replace the motherboard with a different model.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows - Shell/User
Microsoft Community Newsgroups
news://msnews.microsoft.com/

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| Carey,
| I replaced my motherboard and need to re-activate by phone. I get a message
| saying that my numbers aren't recognized. What do I need to do?

 

[Alias]

If you replaced your motherboard with a different model,
and also have an OEM version of Windows XP installed,
then that could be the problem. An OEM license is
permanently tied to the motherboard and becomes invalid
if you replace the motherboard with a different model.

Only true if it is an OEM that comes from someone like DELL. Not true if
it's a generic OEM as many have said and proved over and over again. I
still think Carey gets a vicarious thrill out of conning people into
buying a retail XP and he should be stripped of his MVP status for this
and other bad advice he continually -- even when corrected -- posts here
as it gives the MVP program a bad name.

Alias

 

[Carey Frisch [MVP]]

Any OEM licensed version of Windows XP is directly
tied to the motherboard and becomes invalid once the
motherboard has been replaced with a different model
upgrade. This has been confirmed with Microsoft and
its OEM licensing department.

Give Microsoft Licensing department a call for a
definitive answer.
1-800-426-9400

Outside the US, the following page has links to local licensing sites
which include local customer service phone number
(http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/index/worldwide.mspx)

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows - Shell/User
Microsoft Community Newsgroups
news://msnews.microsoft.com/

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| Absolutely nothing that bears repeating or deserving of further comment.

 

[kurttrail]

Any OEM licensed version of Windows XP is directly
tied to the motherboard and becomes invalid once the
motherboard has been replaced with a different model
upgrade. This has been confirmed with Microsoft and
its OEM licensing department.

Give Microsoft Licensing department a call for a
definitive answer.
1-800-426-9400

Outside the US, the following page has links to local licensing sites
which include local customer service phone number
(http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/index/worldwide.mspx)

System Builder rules, Carey. Those rules don't apply to END USERS that
NEVER agreed to those terms.

--
Peace!
Kurt
Self-anointed Moderator
microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
http://microscum.com/mscommunity
"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"

 

[Leythos]

System Builder rules, Carey. Those rules don't apply to END USERS that
NEVER agreed to those terms.

You keep saying that, like a Mantra, and it doesn't change the fact that
OEM versions are sold to systems builders - even if it's jon doe off the
street, they are still considered an OEM as it's OEM software. If they
make the decision to purchase OEM they are considered an OEM.

 

[Alias]

Any OEM licensed version of Windows XP is directly
tied to the motherboard and becomes invalid once the
motherboard has been replaced with a different model
upgrade. This has been confirmed with Microsoft and
its OEM licensing department.

Give Microsoft Licensing department a call for a
definitive answer.
1-800-426-9400

Outside the US, the following page has links to local licensing sites
which include local customer service phone number
(http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/index/worldwide.mspx)

Like I said, Carey must get some kind of vicarious thrill out of LYING
and telling end users that a system builder's EULA applies to end users
when it doesn't. My end user EULA, in Spanish and English says NOTHING
about a motherboard.

Alias

 

[Alias]

Any OEM licensed version of Windows XP is directly
tied to the motherboard and becomes invalid once the
motherboard has been replaced with a different model
upgrade. This has been confirmed with Microsoft and
its OEM licensing department.

Give Microsoft Licensing department a call for a
definitive answer.
1-800-426-9400

Outside the US, the following page has links to local licensing sites
which include local customer service phone number
(http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/index/worldwide.mspx)

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft's Joke of an MVP
Windows - Shell/User
Microsoft Community Newsgroups
news://msnews.microsoft.com/

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"Alias" did not write:

| Absolutely nothing that bears repeating or deserving of further comment.

Didn't stop you from posting your lies and changing my post, did it?

Alias

 

[Gordon]

Like I said, Carey must get some kind of vicarious thrill out of LYING
and telling end users that a system builder's EULA applies to end users
when it doesn't.

But you have to admire his stubbornness and consistency!

 

[Carey Frisch [MVP]]

All purchasers of OEM software are required to comply with the terms
of the System Builder License, including responsibility for providing
all end-user support.
http://www.microsoft.com/oem/sblicense/default.mspx

"Generally, you may upgrade or replace all of the hardware components
on your customer's computer and the customer may maintain the license
for the original Microsoft OEM operating system software, with the
exception of an upgrade or replacement of the motherboard. Unless
upgraded or replaced under warranty, if the motherboard is upgraded,
then a new computer has been created and the license of new operating
system software is required. The original Microsoft OEM operating system
software cannot be transferred to another computer. Please visit https://oem.microsoft.com/script/contentpage.aspx?PageID=552862

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows - Shell/User
Microsoft Community Newsgroups
news://msnews.microsoft.com/

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| System Builder rules, Carey. Those rules don't apply to END USERS that
| NEVER agreed to those terms.
|
| --
| Peace!
| Kurt

 

[Alias]

You keep saying that, like a Mantra, and it doesn't change the fact that
OEM versions are sold to systems builders - even if it's jon doe off the
street, they are still considered an OEM as it's OEM software. If they
make the decision to purchase OEM they are considered an OEM.

My OEM software comes with an EULA. In that EULA, there is no mention of
a motherboard. I bought three OEM XPs and ALL of them say NOTHING about
a motherboard so you can stop chanting YOUR mantra, Okie dokie?

Alias