Could it happen?

[wojo]

Actually I shouldn't say it isn't true since you did say YOU'VE never seen
it.

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[-xiray-]

Well that sin't exactly true. Some websites disguise themselves pretty well
you click on what appears to be an innocent link just to have a porn site
pop up that very quickly can turn into 10 pop ups and half of them
automatically installing links or hijacking home pages or worms etc...
So to say NEVER might be a bit of an overstatement.

I've seen sites that do that... so note that I qualified my statement
by saing "...that the user did not in one way or another ask for."

If you visit questionable sites, then you can fall prey to
questionable material.

 

[Gordon]

I've seen sites that do that... so note that I qualified my statement
by saing "...that the user did not in one way or another ask for."

That's not quite true either - my boss some years ago typed some searches
into Google looking for a holiday. One of the top sites that came up was in
fact a porn site , although the Google description did NOT say it was. It
was VERY cleverly disguised.

 

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Technically I see what your saying. They did click on the link even if they
didn't know it was what it was. That about cover it?
Still you kind of made it sound like he intentionally visited a site, at
least it sounded like it to me.

That's not quite true either - my boss some years ago typed some searches
into Google looking for a holiday. One of the top sites that came up was
in
fact a porn site , although the Google description did NOT say it was. It
was VERY cleverly disguised.

Exactly what I meant too.

 

[Brian Coats]

Yes it still possible to get through a firewall. My firewall missed a
script that was a viruses. Avg stopped it in tracks. This is why I
use 98 and or windows me fixed* to access the internet, you can
delete the tempora~1, cookies, history.

I

Files from dos.
My example called deltemp.bat
c:\windows\command\deltree /y c:\windows\temp
md c:\windows\temp
c:\windows\command\deltree /y c:\windows\tempor~1
c:\windows\command\deltree /y c:\windows\history
c:\windows\command\deltree /y c:\windows\cookies
MD c:\windows\history
MD c:\windows\cookies
c:\windows\command\attrib +S c:\windows\history
c:\windows\command\attrib +S c:\windows\cookies
DEL C:\windows\*.swp

*windows me has the dos patched.

If you have a dual boot system. Using windows 98 dos and you xp is
fat32. You could delete it from dos using windows 98se or windows 98se
boot disk. You will have to do it for each user listed, plus the
default user as well. The path are different than the above.

If you don’t have a dual boot and your xp is fat32. You could get a
win98se boot disk and make a boot disk to do the above.

 

[-xiray-]

Technically I see what your saying. They did click on the link even if they
didn't know it was what it was. That about cover it?
Still you kind of made it sound like he intentionally visited a site, at
least it sounded like it to me.

Yeah, that's all I was implying... the user had to have take some sort
of action to invite the material into his machine.

A lot of people think that they can install a popup blocker, AV, and
Firewall then surf and download with impunity.

 

[wojo]

Yeah, that's all I was implying... the user had to have take some sort
of action to invite the material into his machine.

got it.

A lot of people think that they can install a popup blocker, AV, and
Firewall then surf and download with impunity.

I wonder what the weather is like on their planet.

 

[Spinner]

got it.

I wonder what the weather is like on their planet.

Agreed. I consider myself computer savvy.
I run a very good antivirus program that updates itself every night.
I have stopzilla to block popups, adaware pro with ad watcher, spybot search
and destroy that are all updated and run regularly, and STILL I get hit
every now and then.

 

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If I can help you I will.
If you can help me thanks.

A lot of ppl think they can buy a new PC, run their ISP's settings
disk, use the Internet - and not have the Internet use them.

To us, the notion of using a PC unmodified on the 'net might seem
absurd, but if you knew nothing about PCs and only had general
consumer experience to go on, what would your expectation be?

Out of the box, every post-IE4 version of Windows has been unfit for
use on the Internet. Every version of Windows prior to XP ships with
a broken HTML rendering engine that auto-runs raw code that is MIMEd
as if it were safe to display "inline". XP's wide open to RPC attacks
and messenging service pop-ups.

So if a user made a bad decision, when being fed porn through these
various opportunities, it was to use Windows on the Internet. That
was the last point at which their decisions could limit the outcome.

Blame the perps, not the victim

I agree

 

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If I can help you I will.
If you can help me thanks.

Agreed. I consider myself computer savvy.
I run a very good antivirus program that updates itself every night.
I have stopzilla to block popups, adaware pro with ad watcher, spybot
search
and destroy that are all updated and run regularly, and STILL I get hit
every now and then.

I know it. I do all that too. I was stupid, lost my marbles for a couple
hours, with a reinstall I did not too long ago. I reinstalled, connected to
my ISP and headed to Windows update.
I forgot to do what I am constantly telling people on here they MUST do. I
didn't start up the ole' firewall. Had blaster before I could turn my head!

I now practice what I preach.

 

[cquirke (MVP Win9x)]

Yeah, that's all I was implying... the user had to have take some sort
of action to invite the material into his machine.

A lot of people think that they can install a popup blocker, AV, and
Firewall then surf and download with impunity.

A lot of ppl think they can buy a new PC, run their ISP's settings
disk, use the Internet - and not have the Internet use them.

To us, the notion of using a PC unmodified on the 'net might seem
absurd, but if you knew nothing about PCs and only had general
consumer experience to go on, what would your expectation be?

Out of the box, every post-IE4 version of Windows has been unfit for
use on the Internet. Every version of Windows prior to XP ships with
a broken HTML rendering engine that auto-runs raw code that is MIMEd
as if it were safe to display "inline". XP's wide open to RPC attacks
and messenging service pop-ups.

So if a user made a bad decision, when being fed porn through these
various opportunities, it was to use Windows on the Internet. That
was the last point at which their decisions could limit the outcome.

Blame the perps, not the victim

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