Corrected Repost re Post-Bootup Delays

[lbrty4us]

Fllwg prob & search for it's cause/solution persisting for 4 months:
I have taken the trouble to be thorough in its descr - TIA 4 ur
patience & lack of conclusion-jumping before considering all.

Box: Compac notebook Presario 2195US/Ath2500/512/40g no ntwk connect
& usually no peripherals attached. XP Home, has SP1 & most all recent
updates.

There is no worm or virus or spyware detectable on this box
(double-checked with update NAV & Spyhunter, filesearches etc.).
Earlier post mis-named a process (wrongly from my memory) associated
with a worm. There are no other observed operating problems beyond
the fact that it's, well, Windows<g>.

Here is the actual name (abbreviation) list of drivers that load 2+
minutes after boot is completed, obtained from bootvis by extending
its dump duration to 3 minutes, in their order of very late loading.
The rest of the table columns (delay times etc.) are omitted here but
available if needed. They have to be read & hand-typed because the
table utility doesn't copy/paste. All major functions are device
controllers except the first 2 which are CREATE:

Process Driver
------------ ---------

explorer.exe(1364) wdmaud
explorer.exe(1364) ks
ONETOUCH.EXE(1480) wdmaud
explorer.exe(1364) wdmaud
explorer.exe(1364) ks
explorer.exe(1364) ks
explorer.exe(1364) wdmaud
ONETOUCH.EXE(1480) wdmaud
ONETOUCH.EXE(1480) DkbFltr
ONETOUCH.EXE(1480) DkbFltr
winlogon.exe(616) wdmaud
ONETOUCH.EXE(1480) DkbFltr
ONETOUCH.EXE(1480) DkbFltr
ONETOUCH.EXE(1480) DkbFltr
imapi.exe(1304) imapi
imapi.exe(1304) MxlW2k
imapi.exe(1304) Cdr4_xp
imapi.exe(1304) pfc
imapi.exe(1304) redbook
imapi.exe(1304) pwd_2k
imapi.exe(1304) Cdralw2k

Some relate to necessary navigation & connectivity processes
(explorer.exe etc.), some are audio functionality, some are just HP
One-Touch frills etc. You can start any app, but can't do
anything in it until these load. Of course the logon .wav & audio &
ntwk tray icons only appear & sound after the delay. Power & touchpad
icons are unaffected & appear immediately after boot.

Actual boot to GUI cmplts in 30 sec or so.

- did all the usuals: unnecessary startups/any ntwkgn
startups all cleared in CP & msconfig etc.;
- some these drvr or refs to them do appear in the prefetch file, but
appear not to prefetch quickly enough(?) - tried deleting/recreating
the P/F file too;
- bootvis has no effect on optimizing these post-boot drvrs, & is not
a cause since it predates my obtaining it in misguided attempt to fix
this & resulted in no change; FWIW it *did* shorten actual boot time;
- unclear whether these are all supposed to be "post-boot" loads & not
loaded during boot?;
- the Defrag GUI does indicate a 2nd large immoveable sector halfway
up the HD, which may or may not hold these drvrs & may or may not be
relevant; boot defrag flag to "Y" doesn't move it;
- the 40g HD is 3/4 empty;
- in *one* instance, before normal defrag, these drvrs were suddenly
loading within 2-3 sec after boot; after defrag, back to the 2 min
delay, may or may not be a fluke;
- no HD activity/seeking is indicated during the 2-min post-boot
delay, until they begin loading;
- if one waits at the login screen for the same 2+ minutes before
loggin on, these drvrs will load immediately (within 2-3 sec) after
boot, possibly indicating there is some sort of prefetch call for
them.

Others beginning to rpt same prob on other NG's w/o
response. Appears no info anywhere on the 'net or in MSKB etc. -
help?

Email CC much appreciated,

 

[Gerry Cornell]

Does Event Viewer offer any clues as to the cause?

Make a note of the precise text of any error message. You can access Event Viewer by selecting Start, Administrative Tools, Event Viewer. When researching the meaning of the error, information regarding Event ID: and Source Description are important.

HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;308427&Product=winxp

Post details of the Error Report and we can see if we are able to help.

Another approach!

How to Perform a Clean Boot in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;310353&Product=winxp

HOW TO: Perform Advanced Clean-Boot Troubleshooting in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;316434&Product=winxp


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Hope this helps.

Gerry
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[lbrty4us]

Does Event Viewer offer any clues as to the cause?

Doesn't *directly appear* to, though there are 3 quick & sequential
errors at every startup. Regrettably E/V history doesn't extend back
to the no-problem state. ISTR noting these errors from the outset
prior the problem (may be wrong).

Make a note of the precise text of any error message. You can access
Event Viewer by selecting Start, Administrative Tools, Event Viewer.
When researching the meaning of the error, information regarding Event
ID: and Source Description are important.

In sequential order; all are SCM, category none, ID 7001: none have
any add'l text or bin data:

1) "The Alerter service depends on the Workstation service which
failed to start because of the following error:
The service cannot be started, either because it is disabled or
because it has no enabled devices associated with it."

2) "The Computer Browser service depends on the Workstation service
which failed to start because of the following error:
The service cannot be started, either because it is disabled or
because it has no enabled devices associated with it."

3) "The Messenger service depends on the Workstation service which
failed to start because of the following error:
The service cannot be started, either because it is disabled or
because it has no enabled devices associated with it." (I have
disabled Messenger by renaming its directory.)

Seems odd overall, that the time delay "doesn't care" which side of
the boot process (i.e., either before/after logon) it's left on, to
tick away for the same duration.

FWIW I could provide a bootvis .bin if anyone wishes, which can depict
all processes/events/activities when opened in that app.

BstRgds,
Frank Adams

 

[lbrty4us]

Another approach!

How to Perform a Clean Boot in Windows XP

FGOS: Behavior identical w/clean boot (only Load System Services &
Boot.ini). Same Errors (log) too.