Copy Protected DVDs

[Ali Brown]

Who can recommend a good ripping software to make copies of Copy
Protected DVDs? I have few DVDs that I need to make backup of so that I
have a future proof reference library of them. The items are a complete
set of James Bond films excluding skyfall because that is still over
priced for my budget.

Thanks.

 

[Paul]

Who can recommend a good ripping software to make copies of Copy
Protected DVDs? I have few DVDs that I need to make backup of so that I
have a future proof reference library of them. The items are a complete
set of James Bond films excluding skyfall because that is still over
priced for my budget.

Thanks.

I thought this article was funny. It recommends "Handbrake".

http://www.macworld.com/article/1133243/bewaredvdcopy.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HandBrake

"Website HandBrake.fr " <--- Windows version available

"DVD

HandBrake’s developers removed libdvdcss (the open-source library
responsible for accessing and unscrambling DVDs encrypted with
the Content Scramble System (CSS)) from the application in
version 0.9.2. Removal of digital rights management (DRM) in
HandBrake is possible by installing VLC, a media player application
that includes the libdvdcss library."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VLC_media_player

"Website videolan.org/vlc/ " <--- Windows version available

"It also gained distinction as the first player to support playback
of encrypted DVDs on Linux and OS X by using the libdvdcss DVD
decryption library."

*******

And you could find plenty more ideas, on sites like videohelp.com .

http://www.videohelp.com/tools

If you cannot find the answer there, by browsing, go to your
favorite search engine, and type this as a search:

site:videohelp.com dvd copy

That's how you can do a site specific search, for sites you
know have the answer you're looking for.

Sorry I can't provide any actual help, as I don't have
access to any commercial DVDs. Talk about lazy...
Just have no interest in them.

HTH,
Paul

 

[Ken Springer]

Who can recommend a good ripping software to make copies of Copy
Protected DVDs? I have few DVDs that I need to make backup of so that I
have a future proof reference library of them. The items are a complete
set of James Bond films excluding skyfall because that is still over
priced for my budget.

Does anyone care that helping someone do this is supporting/encouraging
theft?

lifehacker.com/5978326/is-it-legal-to-rip-a-dvd-that-i-own
www.avsforum.com/t/1436730/new-ruling-confirms-copying-dvds-is-illegalanswers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071228150136AAxtwoC
www.dvd-cloner.com/knowledge/about-dvd-copy/illegal-and-legal-dvd-copying.html


--
Ken

Mac OS X 10.8.3
Firefox 20.0
Thunderbird 17.0.5
LibreOffice 4.0.1.2

 

[Paul]

Does anyone care that helping someone do this is supporting/encouraging
theft?

lifehacker.com/5978326/is-it-legal-to-rip-a-dvd-that-i-own
www.avsforum.com/t/1436730/new-ruling-confirms-copying-dvds-is-illegalanswers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071228150136AAxtwoC

www.dvd-cloner.com/knowledge/about-dvd-copy/illegal-and-legal-dvd-copying.html

Answering this question, is to keep people from wandering off
and downloading malware. There are some people out there,
who will download just about anything. Whereas, one of the
22 solutions for doing this, listed on videohelp, will
point you in the right direction. No need to download
some malware-infested crap.

Some of these questions get asked, just so the poster and
a partner, can push some software of their own. A sort of
"bombing run". Answering the question quickly, dilutes such
efforts.

Paul

 

[Ken Springer]

Answering this question, is to keep people from wandering off
and downloading malware. There are some people out there,
who will download just about anything. Whereas, one of the
22 solutions for doing this, listed on videohelp, will
point you in the right direction. No need to download
some malware-infested crap.

Some of these questions get asked, just so the poster and
a partner, can push some software of their own. A sort of
"bombing run". Answering the question quickly, dilutes such
efforts.

But Paul, you didn't address my observation of theft. If you are the
same Paul that replied in my thread about CPUs and motherboards in
alt.windows7.general, you have a small company. Do you support people
stealing from you?

And if they get infected from downloading malware in an effort to copy
protected DVDs, it's the least they deserve, IMO.


--
Ken

Mac OS X 10.8.3
Firefox 20.0
Thunderbird 17.0.5
LibreOffice 4.0.1.2

 

[Paul]

But Paul, you didn't address my observation of theft. If you are the
same Paul that replied in my thread about CPUs and motherboards in
alt.windows7.general, you have a small company. Do you support people
stealing from you?

And if they get infected from downloading malware in an effort to copy
protected DVDs, it's the least they deserve, IMO.

Yeah, that's our main job here, to provide moral guidance
to those lacking a compass. I can see that happening.

When is the last time you offered an opinion to someone
on USENET, and they listened to you ?

I'm just surprised, that a person seeking to copy a DVD,
even has to ask these questions. That's why I suspect a
setup, rather than a genuinely naive request.

Paul

 

[(PeteCresswell)]

Per Paul:

I'm just surprised, that a person seeking to copy a DVD,
even has to ask these questions. That's why I suspect a
setup, rather than a genuinely naive request.

I like it!

 

[Ken Springer]

Yeah, that's our main job here, to provide moral guidance
to those lacking a compass. I can see that happening.

Perhaps it should be. At least to the extent of not helping people
break the law, whether the poster agrees with the law or not. If
nothing else, it's good citizenship. (<------- Something all too few
practice anymore. :-( ) To even have a moral compass, you have to
be taught what is right and what is wrong.

When is the last time you offered an opinion to someone
on USENET, and they listened to you ?

Dunno, since there's no way to know. But that's no excuse for doing
nothing.

I'm just surprised, that a person seeking to copy a DVD,
even has to ask these questions. That's why I suspect a
setup, rather than a genuinely naive request.

If an accurate study could be done, which I doubt, I wouldn't be
surprised if most users either don't know it's illegal, or don't care.
Unless, of course, they are the victim, not the perpetrator. And I also
wouldn't be surprised at how many people don't know how to copy even
unprotected CD/DVDs.

The general ignorance of computer users today simply astounds me sometimes.

I remember back "in the day" when LP's were king. Yep, vinyl.
Audiophiles would buy a high end reel-to-reel tape unit, turntable with
cartridge, and simply copy the record to the tape. I know this was
done, as I did it.

The problem was, that was illegal. I didn't know that, I had no clue.
Artists who created the music were cheated out of being paid for their
work. I.E., their work was being stolen, it was theft.

The solution back then, rather than trying some kind of encryption, was
to levy a tax, fee, some word like that, on all blank tape sold,
regardless of format. Then the money collected was turned over to
XXXXXXXXXX (sorry, don't remember the office/organization/whatever)
where artists that were registered would receive payments from the monies.

Maybe a similar system should be created for blank CD's and DVD's. Then
there would be no need for encryption that someone would try to break.



--
Ken

Mac OS X 10.8.3
Firefox 20.0
Thunderbird 17.0.5
LibreOffice 4.0.1.2

 

[Paul]

The solution back then, rather than trying some kind of encryption, was
to levy a tax, fee, some word like that, on all blank tape sold,
regardless of format. Then the money collected was turned over to
XXXXXXXXXX (sorry, don't remember the office/organization/whatever)
where artists that were registered would receive payments from the monies.

Maybe a similar system should be created for blank CD's and DVD's. Then
there would be no need for encryption that someone would try to break.

But that was actually done.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blank_media_tax#Canada

"Canada's current private copying levies are as follows:
$0.24 per unit for Audio Cassette tape (40min or longer),
and $0.29 per unit for CD-R, CD-RW, CD-R Audio, CD-RW Audio
and MiniDisc."

In that articles, some countries have a rather complete taxing scheme.

"€5 to 18€ for external hard disk drives: "

Um, shocking! "Stand and deliver". Highway robbery.

It's a good thing my farts are taxed. Cuts down on the farting.

Paul

 

[RJK]

But that was actually done.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blank_media_tax#Canada

"Canada's current private copying levies are as follows:
$0.24 per unit for Audio Cassette tape (40min or longer),
and $0.29 per unit for CD-R, CD-RW, CD-R Audio, CD-RW Audio
and MiniDisc."

In that articles, some countries have a rather complete taxing scheme.

"€5 to 18€ for external hard disk drives: "

Um, shocking! "Stand and deliver". Highway robbery.

It's a good thing my farts are taxed. Cuts down on the farting.

Paul

FWIW , One the odd occasion that I buy a DVD, I immediately first rip and
burn just the film, mainly to get rid of the hideous inflicted copyright
theft warning which would plant itself on my telly screen for an annoyingly
long time, and to get rid of the ridiculous menu system that seems to be on
every commercial DVD.
So after ripping and burning it, I can add it to my library (in the house),
pop it in my DVD player when I want to, and off it immediately plays !!!
....soooo nice to have all ones films ready to immediately play they moment
they're popped into ones DVD player.
I rarely put an original DVD into a DVD player in the house, they usually go
straight into the computer first, for "treatment" out in my office !
And I often lend the originals to friends !!!! ....luckily I don't have any
friends like Ken Springer !
Considering the ridiculous price of most top DVD's I feel morally entitled
to do exactly as I please with them, even though this is, of course,
strictly speaking, illegal.

regards, Richard

 

[Ken Springer]

And I often lend the originals to friends !!!! ....luckily I don't have any
friends like Ken Springer !

I guess you've never had anything of value stolen from you.


--
Ken

Mac OS X 10.8.3
Firefox 20.0
Thunderbird 17.0.5
LibreOffice 4.0.1.2

 

[(PeteCresswell)]

Per RJK:

FWIW , One the odd occasion that I buy a DVD, I immediately first rip and
burn just the film, mainly to get rid of the hideous inflicted copyright
theft warning which would plant itself on my telly screen for an annoyingly
long time, and to get rid of the ridiculous menu system that seems to be on
every commercial DVD.
So after ripping and burning it, I can add it to my library (in the house),
pop it in my DVD player when I want to, and off it immediately plays !!!
...soooo nice to have all ones films ready to immediately play they moment
they're popped into ones DVD player.
I rarely put an original DVD into a DVD player in the house, they usually go
straight into the computer first, for "treatment" out in my office !
And I often lend the originals to friends !!!! ....luckily I don't have any
friends like Ken Springer !

That's pretty much what I've been doing with my purchased DVDs except:

- I rip them to disc and then transcode to MP3.

- I watch them via black boxes connected to the TVs and via
Android devices like my smart phone and 10" tablet.

- I use something called CloneDVD2, which lets me pick out
the Main Movie and all the extras into separate files.

- Once I rip a DVD, I remove it and the cover from it's jewel box
and file the DVD-in-Cover in a box that probably has 300-400 DVDs
in it. Saves a *lot* of space.


For me, the main benefits are:

- Portability: I can watch a movie anywhere in the house and easily
pick up where I left off.

- Fast-forwarding: It's *really* fast from disc. Maybe not such a big
deal with movies (no advertisements), although it is a very big deal
with recorded TV.

- Space Saving: Instead of a whole wall of DVDs in boxes, I have a
wooden box in the bottom of a cabinet.

- Advertisement Avoidance: The advertising on some discs is *really*
heinous the first time around and gets worse the second or third time
around when one is watching a movie a half hour or so at a time.


Yeah, it's all probably technically illegal.

But if I pony up the money to buy a DVD, who in their right mind is
going to care what technical means I use to view it?

 

[RJK]

Per RJK:

That's pretty much what I've been doing with my purchased DVDs except:

- I rip them to disc and then transcode to MP3.

- I watch them via black boxes connected to the TVs and via
Android devices like my smart phone and 10" tablet.

- I use something called CloneDVD2, which lets me pick out
the Main Movie and all the extras into separate files.

- Once I rip a DVD, I remove it and the cover from it's jewel box
and file the DVD-in-Cover in a box that probably has 300-400 DVDs
in it. Saves a *lot* of space.


For me, the main benefits are:

- Portability: I can watch a movie anywhere in the house and easily
pick up where I left off.

- Fast-forwarding: It's *really* fast from disc. Maybe not such a big
deal with movies (no advertisements), although it is a very big deal
with recorded TV.

- Space Saving: Instead of a whole wall of DVDs in boxes, I have a
wooden box in the bottom of a cabinet.

- Advertisement Avoidance: The advertising on some discs is *really*
heinous the first time around and gets worse the second or third time
around when one is watching a movie a half hour or so at a time.


Yeah, it's all probably technically illegal.

But if I pony up the money to buy a DVD, who in their right mind is
going to care what technical means I use to view it?

I think you type in a "*.mp3" in there instead of an "*.mp4" <grin> !

I haven't yet really evolved into using portable devices, nor do I think
I'll ever want to watch a film on a teeny screen. I have been watching,
with dismay, at how they're being unrolled onto the market, esp. tablet
PC's. In the age old fashion whereby, if I was to buy one, the very next
week or month, the next more "powerful" model is released, leaving one stuck
with a grindingly slow model, that never lived up to its' performance claims
in the first place !!!!
A year or so ago I bought an "August" brand portable Freeview t.v. / media
player and converted some films to *.mp4's onto SD cards for my Aunt to use
during her long hospital stay. For that I bought and use AVS Video
Converter, (which annoyingly checks online that I'm not using it on more
than one PC). ...not so much of a problem !

So a quick rip, a quick authoring, occasionally a quick resizing, and a burn
to 4.7gb single layer, does me fine !

regards, Richard

 

[Good Guy]

- I use something called CloneDVD2,

I believe it is called something else these days:


*<http://preview.tinyurl.com/c6l8h7o>*
<*http://tinyurl.com/c6l8h7o*>

 

[(PeteCresswell)]

Per Ant:

MP3 audio only?

My Bad.

SHB ".MPG" (or .M4V in the case of movies where I need to burn in the
subtitles via HandBrake.

 

[(PeteCresswell)]

Per Good Guy:

I believe it is called something else these days:


*<http://preview.tinyurl.com/c6l8h7o>*

I've been wondering about that since noticing a ref a few weeks ago.

Seems like a totally different publisher.


Elaborate Bytes AG (www.elby.ch) seems to still be alive and well - but,
in support of what you said, they now call their product "elby
CloneDVD2" instead of "CloneDVD2".

Maybe DVDSmith purchased the source code from elby with some sort of
option for elby to keep on with what they have?