Copy Hard disk problem

D

Dimtirs

Hi
I have a machine with W2K SP4 installed on a HDD. I
installed two SATA drives in RAID 1 (mirror). I tried to
copy with Norton Ghost the files to the Raid. Everything
seemed fine but when i tried to logon to windows in the new
drives i got this message

"your system has no paging file or the paging file is too
small"

with some info on how to correct this problem. When i press
OK the system goes back to login screen again!! I can't
access Control Panel or Explorer or anything and also
Ctrl+Tab doesn't work.
Any ideas?
Also i have a machnie in the network (W2K SP4 and W2K Adv
Server) that takes to long to login. The other machines
work fine.
Thank you
 
G

Geoffw

not quite the same but I have had that error when the paging
file is not located on the boot disk (win2K), the new image
comes up with the error, fix was to create paging file on
boot disk, create image then put image on new drive.

good luck

Geoff
 
P

Pegasus \(MVP\)

Dimtirs said:
Hi
I have a machine with W2K SP4 installed on a HDD. I
installed two SATA drives in RAID 1 (mirror). I tried to
copy with Norton Ghost the files to the Raid. Everything
seemed fine but when i tried to logon to windows in the new
drives i got this message

"your system has no paging file or the paging file is too
small"

with some info on how to correct this problem. When i press
OK the system goes back to login screen again!! I can't
access Control Panel or Explorer or anything and also
Ctrl+Tab doesn't work.
Any ideas?
Also i have a machnie in the network (W2K SP4 and W2K Adv
Server) that takes to long to login. The other machines
work fine.
Thank you

Your drive letters are probably confused. Open the registry of the
machine via a networked connection, navigate to
HKLM/SYSTEM/MountedDevices, then delete all keys which
look like "\DosDevice\<DRIVE_LETTER>:" After rebooting,
the problem should fix itself.
 
B

Bill Baka

I have a question on the paging file? The more ram I put in the larger
paging file it wants. It borders on insanity that I can get a low memory
warning because W2K Pro wants to beat up my hard drives.

Has anybody out there ever created a ramdrive out of some of the memory
in the machine and told it to go there for a swap file?

It just seems easier to max out the memory and use it than to be beating
up my hard drives.

Anybody?
Bill Baka
 
P

Pegasus \(MVP\)

Bill Baka said:
I have a question on the paging file? The more ram I put in the larger
paging file it wants. It borders on insanity that I can get a low memory
warning because W2K Pro wants to beat up my hard drives.

Has anybody out there ever created a ramdrive out of some of the memory
in the machine and told it to go there for a swap file?

It just seems easier to max out the memory and use it than to be beating
up my hard drives.

Anybody?
Bill Baka

Have a look at these links:
http://www.jsiinc.com/subh/tip3500/rh3515.htm
http://www.arsoft-online.de/products/product.php?id=1

I'm not sure if you can place all of your paging file onto a ramdisk.
Anyway, your reasons for doing so should be driven by speed, not
disk space. Calculate the cost of the disk space used by your
paging drive - it will be some ridiculously small sum!
 
B

Bill Baka

Pegasus said:
Have a look at these links:
http://www.jsiinc.com/subh/tip3500/rh3515.htm
http://www.arsoft-online.de/products/product.php?id=1

I'm not sure if you can place all of your paging file onto a ramdisk.
Anyway, your reasons for doing so should be driven by speed, not
disk space. Calculate the cost of the disk space used by your
paging drive - it will be some ridiculously small sum!
The amount of space taken up on the drives is not a worry, it is Windows
habit of overusing the swap file and possibly killing the drive (s).
Speed isn't the issue either although it would be nice. I wrote an
application for a customer way back in 1992 and the first pass read and
wrote to the hard drive and took 3 minutes to run. Putting all the data
in a ramdrive took the time to run the program down to 3 seconds.
FWIW it was merging two database text files into a third format.
I am going to check out those links now so thanks for the reply.
Bill
 
A

Andy

I believe this problem happens when you boot up from the old drive
while the newly cloned drive is still connected. Solution: if you need
to boot from the old drive, physically disconnect the cloned drive
first.
 
J

John John

Put the pagefile on a hard disk of its own on a controller of its own.
The pagefile likes to be 1.5 times larger than the hardware RAM.
Windows keeps up to 2GB of memory address space for its own use.

John
 
B

Bill Baka

John said:
Put the pagefile on a hard disk of its own on a controller of its own.
The pagefile likes to be 1.5 times larger than the hardware RAM. Windows
keeps up to 2GB of memory address space for its own use.

John

I have tried that but it still beats up on the disk. A friend of mine
tried something like that and it just appears as if the more ram you put
in the bigger (hard drive) swap file it wants. 3GB wants a swap file
nearly as big. This has been a problem with windows since 3.1. I put
3.1s swap file on a ram disk and it is happy as heck. My whole point is
that if I put 3GB of memory and know that I will never have over 500MB
of stuff open, why can't I use 500MB to 1GB as a ramdrive swap file. Is
this just hard coded into windows that you absolutely have to have a
hard drive to swap to? That is counter productive both for the lifetime
of the swap disk and the speed of windows. I have my first hard drive
with DOS and windows (both 3.1 and 2000Pro), my second drive is totally
Linux, and my third drive is a 20 GB swap drive both for windows and to
take out of the machine and go to friends houses for large file
swapping. If it gets right down to it I will take a clean 20 GB hard
drive and install windows from scratch with 3 GB in the system and try
it without installing anything. The only problem is that I don't have
the spare cash to buy 3 x 1GB PC2700 sticks of memory right now.
I do have a secondary windows installation that has never had anything
installed on it and it still takes up about 70 MB, while my linux takes
up even less memory.
Maybe I just need a bigger, badder computer, sort of king of the hill.
Bill Baka
 

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