convertersdBpowerAMP CD Writer (dCW) makes audio CD creation a breeze, never before has it been just

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Norm at Home

Are any freeware "converters" similar to the software described immediately
below. I got a rude awakening. I copied mp3s onto an ordinary cd...and
tried playing them on a downscale portable cd player with the results you
sophisticated folks would expect...dBpowerAMP CD Writer (dCW) makes audio CD
creation a breeze, never before has it been just so easy to create an Audio
CD and we are not just talking Standard Audio CDs (74 or 80 minutes)
playable in any CD player, also fancy mp3, WMA (Windows Media Audio) or even
Ogg Vorbis CDs, the choice is yours depending upon the type of CD player.
Plenty of existing audio formats, if not nearly all, are accepted (through
Codec Downloads) to be Converted to an Audio CD.
dCW is Shareware, it can be tried without obligation for 30 days,
after 30 days dCW should either be registered or uninstalled. Register dCW
here.
 
D

dadiOH

Norm at Home said:
Are any freeware "converters" similar to the software described immediately
below. I got a rude awakening. I copied mp3s onto an ordinary cd...and
tried playing them on a downscale portable cd player with the results you
sophisticated folks would expect...dBpowerAMP CD Writer (dCW) makes audio CD
creation a breeze, never before has it been just so easy to create an Audio
CD and we are not just talking Standard Audio CDs (74 or 80 minutes)...

<snip>

Yes you are...the number of files you can get on an audio CD is always
determined by total playing time. You didn't "copy MP3s" either. They were
decoded to wave...something which is necessary and done by virtually all
burning programs automatically. Even the free ones.

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dadiOH
____________________
....dadiOH's dandies...a help file about recording
from LP/cassette plus useful tips & tricks
about this and that...
http://www.gbronline.com/xico/
 
D

dansheen

The converter itself is free. You can always convert your audio files to
wave and then record them using your regular software.
 
J

John Corliss

dadiOH said:
Yes you are...the number of files you can get on an audio CD is always
determined by total playing time. You didn't "copy MP3s" either. They were
decoded to wave...something which is necessary and done by virtually all
burning programs automatically. Even the free ones.

Dadioh,
I'm not real big into music, but I've seen other people make .mp3
discs that hold a *lot* of music. I know that they don't convert the
files to regular redbook format and that you can't use the discs with
some older CD players. Does this take a special program to do this and
if so, can you recommend any good freeware for doing it?
 
M

Mister Charlie

John Corliss said:
Dadioh,
I'm not real big into music, but I've seen other people make .mp3
discs that hold a *lot* of music. I know that they don't convert the
files to regular redbook format and that you can't use the discs with
some older CD players. Does this take a special program to do this and
if so, can you recommend any good freeware for doing it?
I may be misunderstanding your question, but...if burned to CD as an
audio CD the program will usually convert them to wav's on the fly.

You might get 20-30 on a disk depending on song length/file size.

But if you burn it as a DATA disk (mp3's), then you can put maybe even
hundreds of files on one disk. But it can only be played in the
computer.

Otherwise, I don't know of any other way to do what you suggest.
 
D

dansheen

If you're talking about making a data music disk you need to make sure that
you're mp3 player also plays other formats such as wmp if you're going to
use that. Many of the newer disk based cd/mp3 players will do this.
 
J

John Corliss

Mister said:
I may be misunderstanding your question, but...if burned to CD as an
audio CD the program will usually convert them to wav's on the fly.
You might get 20-30 on a disk depending on song length/file size.

Yes, I know this. 80)> That's why I'd prefer to use .mp3 format.
But if you burn it as a DATA disk (mp3's), then you can put maybe even
hundreds of files on one disk. But it can only be played in the
computer.
Otherwise, I don't know of any other way to do what you suggest.

Newer CD and DVD players are supposed to be able to play ".mp3 CDs".
My question however, is specifically whether or not special software
is needed to create .mp3 discs and if so, are there any freeware
alternatives.
As far as I know, all you have to do to create an .mp3 disc is to
make a data disc containing the .mp3 files. You need to make sure the
disc is finalized, or it won't work in compatible players. But as for
the interval between the songs, does that take special software? I
know you can simply rename the songs so that they have 01, 02, 03 etc.
at the start of the filename so as to assure the order in which they
will be played, so you don't need to worry about playlists.
All the major commercial disc burning programs try to make you
think that you have to upgrade to their full versions in order to make
..mp3 discs, and I find it hard to believe that it's impossible without
doing so.
 
J

John Corliss

Susan said:
the good No special program needed. Burn the .mp3s as a data disk.

but . . .
You must have a player that understands the MP3 format - not all new
players do.

and . . .
I suspect results vary depending on the player - experimentation may be
needed . . .
The DVD/CD player I have plays files in *short* file name order. I *can*
use folders and subfolders, songs in subfolders are played after the
songs in higher levels.

I've heard you can put 01, 02, 03 etc. in front of the file names so
that they will play in the order you want.
The sound was garbled in my first attempts (even though it sounded fine
when played by the computer). Some versions of the LAME encoder don't
work and I need *joint stereo* setting to get good results.
figuring all this out was a real PITA (no documentation) but . . .
I *love* my MP3 CDs - 10-12 hours of listening on one disk . . . :)

Thanks a lot for the tips, Susan. I'll keep a copy of your message for
reference when I make my first CD.

I guess about the only program one would need then would be one to
play them if you use your computer. To that end, the best would have
to be Zoomplayer:

http://www.inmatrix.com/zplayer/

I have a commercial program that came with my sound card though.
 
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Susan Bugher

John said:
I've heard you can put 01, 02, 03 etc. in front of the file names so
that they will play in the order you want.

yahbut what happens after 99?

use 001, 002 etc. (you're likely to have 100-200 files on a disk)

Susan
 
M

Mark Blain

As far as I know, all you have to do to create an .mp3 disc is to
make a data disc containing the .mp3 files. You need to make sure the
disc is finalized, or it won't work in compatible players. But as for
the interval between the songs, does that take special software? I
know you can simply rename the songs so that they have 01, 02, 03 etc.
at the start of the filename so as to assure the order in which they
will be played, so you don't need to worry about playlists.

I own an older portable mp3/cd player that is very specific about the
disk layout and the mp3 file types. In particular, it won't play
variable-bitrate .mp3 files: you have to convert them first. Newer
players should have less restrictions.

The free command-line-based application cdrdao allows you to burn files
in any order you choose, regardless of their filenames and even when
you're recording a data cd, but it's definitely not for everyone.
<http://cdrdao.sourceforge.net/>
 
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John Corliss

Mark said:
I own an older portable mp3/cd player that is very specific about the
disk layout and the mp3 file types. In particular, it won't play
variable-bitrate .mp3 files: you have to convert them first. Newer
players should have less restrictions.

I'm kinda new to this stuff, so I don't really know what you're
refering to unless it's that Lame and Ogg stuff.
The free command-line-based application cdrdao allows you to burn files
in any order you choose, regardless of their filenames and even when
you're recording a data cd, but it's definitely not for everyone.
<http://cdrdao.sourceforge.net/>

Man, that ain't no kidding. 80)> However, if a person could figure out
how to install it much less get through the learning curve it
probably would be worth it for the results.
 

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