Content Advisor Not Working

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JoeK

Have set content advisor to lowest levels, enabled
settings with password. Have restarted both the browser
and windows but content advisor is not working. Can get
into prono sites without Content Advisor asking me for
the password. In MSN.com doing a search using a
expletive, NightSurf comes up without content advisor
asking me to enter the password.

What do I need to do. Running XP Home on a Dell
Dimension 2400.

Thanks ... JoeK
 
J

Jan Il

Hi JoeK :)

Try the following and see if it helps:

Lost Content Advisor Password -
or Reset Content Advisor Password

How to Reset Content Advisor Password using Registry
http://support.earthlink.net/mu/1/psc/img/walkthroughs/windows_9x_nt/browsers/ie_5.0/1770.psc.html

Content Advisor tool
http://www.colba.net/~hlebo49/contadvi.htm

If these steps do not resolve your problem, please post back to this thread
with the details and any error messages.

Hope this helps

Jan :)
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Guest

Hi Jan ... really appreciate the help ... first off I
have not forgotten my password and am able to access the
content settings. The settings worked before I loaded
SP2. Now they aren't. I was able to change the password
normally and it didn't correct the problem. I was
searching this Newsgroup and noticed that you were
helping a RAM person who was having similar problems and
resolved it by changing "Webserver to current header
type" or something like that. Could this be what my
problem is? If so how do I do this? If this is not
fixable should I uninstall SP2?

Thanks JoeK
 
J

Jim Byrd

Hi JoeK - Pardon my jumping in, but there's an immediate solution to this -
restore CA:

If you wish to restore Content Advisor to its original condition (because of
your kids) you can obtain a Microsoft program (CA-Reset.exe - 89.5K) to do
this here: http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/regs_edits/CA-Reset.exe
(listed on line 283) NOTE: Using CA-Reset will completely delete your
Approved List - everything starts like brand new, so consider this before
you use it.


--
Please respond in the same thread.
Regards, Jim Byrd, MS-MVP



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Vanguardx

JoeK said:
Have set content advisor to lowest levels, enabled
settings with password. Have restarted both the browser
and windows but content advisor is not working. Can get
into prono sites without Content Advisor asking me for
the password. In MSN.com doing a search using a
expletive, NightSurf comes up without content advisor
asking me to enter the password.

What do I need to do. Running XP Home on a Dell
Dimension 2400.

Thanks ... JoeK

Do you have the option "Users can see sites that have no rating"
enabled? If so then obviously any user can visit a site that doesn't
bother to rate itself.

Do you really expect porn peddlers to follow a standard (to voluntary
provide a ratings file) that would limit their audience? You expect
morality from porn peddlers? Oh, yeah, like the police stations have
lines of people voluntarily confessing to their crimes. This scheme
assumes a site will provide a ratings file. That's like asking burglars
to tattoo on their foreheads, "I rob houses", or those that are HIV
positive to tattoo on their foreheads, "Sex with me is lethal".

It is likely on the Advanced tab that you are not subscribed to any
ratings bureau, so you are relying on the web site to rate themself.
Back on the General tab you will find a button to go find some ratings
schemes, like ICRA (which provides a description of how to install their
scheme at http://www.icra.org/faq/contentadvisor/setup/). However,
unless someone points to a KB or tech article from Microsoft that says
different, that is just a ratings scheme and still requires the web site
to actually rate themself. Microsoft says, "When you enable the Content
Advisor, Internet Explorer 4 reads special tags placed in the HTML code
of Web pages by content providers to determine whether that page meets
your criteria for suitable content." I don't know that Content Advisor
has changed its method since then. I believe the web site can also
create a rating file that the browser can read, but obviously the
contents of that file were written by THAT web site owner. It isn't
some encrypted file that was provided by an independent ratings bureau
which would be violated and detected as such if the web site owner ever
changed it. That's why you probably want to DISABLE the option "Users
can see sites that have no rating". If the site won't rate itself then
don't let the kids go there. Of course, if the site does rate itself
then it can say it is a pure as driven white snow and still be a porn
site.

I think now you get the picture that the voluntary rating scheme sucks.
It's stupid. It has the baddies smacking a red-dye stamp on their
forehead say, "I'm a bad site by this much (and then provides a rating
of how much they are bad)". Anyone using Content Advisor is hoping the
big bad world out there will actually identify themselves as bad. If
you are unwilling to take the time to actually guide your kids (and
monitor or log their violations and punish them for those infractions)
then get some real web content filtering. A simple Google search will
reveal how to reset the Content Advisor's password so any kid can then
get in and change its settings or disable it.

If you allow physical access to the host where is the web content
filtering then the kids are going to get around it (so the clue here is
that you need to put the web content filtering somewhere upstream of the
kid's computer). However, how are you going to prevent the kids from
using public proxies to do a runaround to your web content filtering?
Those aren't rated and that is where the connection from your kids' host
is made (to then go to the target "bad" site). Disabling the option to
let users visit unrated sites (so all sites have to be rated) might help
but I'm sure there are enough public proxies around that gives
themselves a glistening clean rating (because they have no idea to where
the user will tell their proxy to connect). I don't censor myself so
I'm not going to proffer recommendations on a type of software that
deludes parents that their kids won't figure out how to get around it.
 
J

JoeK

Jan ... FYI ... the content advisor wasn't working before
upgrading to SP2. I went back and did a system restore
prior to SP2 and still had the same problem.
 
J

JoeK

That did it ... thank you so much Jim ... I can now rest
easy ... this PC is child protected again. Thank you so
much for jumping in ... I really appreciate it.

JoeK
 
J

Jan Il

Hi JoeK :)

The one I think you are referring to is: Re: "Content doesn't match its
security information", posted by Ram Shriram on 9/26/04.

To be truthful, I am not that knowledgeable regarding webpages, but, I am
aware that with the SP2, and the changes it has brought in how webpages are
being rendered, it is possible that this may be what is happening with your
situation. There are many webmasters who are still trying to catch up with
the changes in SP2, and many webpages remain problematic for many users who
have installed the SP2, not realizing that these changes could affect the
way IE deals with many of their favorite websites. Not all websites are
programmed uniformly, so that one may work and others won't. JavaScript is
a compact, object-based scripting language created by Netscape for
developing client and server Internet applications. It is *not* the same as
Java, it can not stand alone. It is used in HTML pages. However, it is now
up to the user to install and set up the JavaScript to deal with this change
in IE. Sun Java is an equal to the MS VM and works very well.

I can not honestly tell you that what worked for the other poster will work
for you, but, if your problem appears similar, you might try it. If it does
not work, then I suggest that you uninstall SP2 and repair your system. You
might also disable the SP2 firewall, and the popup blocker, and see if that
helps. These features have been known to cause various problems for others.
You can always install Zone Alarm, which is a much better firewall than the
one in XP anyway, as it blocks traffic both directions.

Zone Alarm - Free
http://tinyurl.com/iwhb
or
http://tinyurl.com/kzq

I sincerely wish I could give you more concrete information on this, but, I
am just not that up on this part of the program. Hopefully, someone else
here will have more input on this issue, and be able to provide a solution
of you.

If I can be of other assistance, please give a yell back here. :)

Jan :)
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that's why they're so contagious.

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J

Jan Il

Hi JoeK :)

I see that you have been able to get you problem resolved with the excellent
suggestion from Jim. Good job!

Thank you for posting back and letting us know what worked for you, and for
the benefit of other readers who might have a similar problem. :)

Jan :)
Smiles are meant to be shared,
that's why they're so contagious.
 
J

Jan Il

Thanks Jim! Another pearl for my collection. ;-))

Jan :)
Smiles are meant to be shared,
that's why they're so contagious.
 
J

Jim Byrd

You're more than welcome, Jan. Didn't want to preempt, but I thought it
might save some time.

--
Please respond in the same thread.
Regards, Jim


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J

Jim Byrd

YVW, Joe. Glad it straightened it out for you.

--
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Regards, Jim Byrd, MS-MVP



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VanguardX

-----Original Message-----
Have set content advisor to lowest levels, enabled
settings with password. Have restarted both the browser
and windows but content advisor is not working. Can get
into prono sites without Content Advisor asking me for
the password. In MSN.com doing a search using a
expletive, NightSurf comes up without content advisor
asking me to enter the password.
<snip>

Do you have the option "Users can see sites that have no
rating" enabled? If so then obviously any user can visit
a site that doesn't bother to rate itself.

Do you really expect porn peddlers to follow a standard
(to voluntary provide a ratings file) that would limit
their audience? You expect morality from porn peddlers?
Oh, yeah, like the police stations have lines of people
voluntarily confessing to their crimes. This scheme
assumes a site will provide a ratings file. That's like
asking burglars to tattoo on their foreheads, "I rob
houses", or those that are HIV positive to tattoo on
their foreheads, "Sex with me is lethal".

It is likely on the Advanced tab that you are not
subscribed to any ratings bureau, so you are relying on
the web site to rate themself. Back on the General tab
you will find a button to go find some ratings schemes,
like ICRA (which provides a description of how to install
their scheme at
http://www.icra.org/faq/contentadvisor/setup/). However,
unless someone points to a KB or tech article from
Microsoft that says different, that is just a ratings
scheme and still requires the web site to actually rate
themself. Microsoft says, "When you enable the Content
Advisor, Internet Explorer 4 reads special tags placed in
the HTML code of Web pages by content providers to
determine whether that page meets your criteria for
suitable content." I don't know that Content Advisor has
changed its method since then. I believe the web site
can also create a rating file that the browser can read,
but obviously the contents of that file were written by
THAT web site owner. It isn't some encrypted file that
was provided by an independent ratings bureau which would
be violated and detected as such if the web site owner
ever changed it. That's why you probably want to DISABLE
the option "Users can see sites that have no rating". If
the site won't rate itself then don't let the kids go
there. Of course, if the site does rate itself then it
can say it is a pure as driven white snow and still be a
porn site.

I think now you get the picture that the voluntary rating
scheme sucks. It's stupid. It has the baddies smacking a
red-dye stamp on their forehead say, "I'm a bad site by
this much (and then provides a rating of how much they
are bad)". Anyone using Content Advisor is hoping the
big bad world out there will actually identify themselves
as bad. If you are unwilling to take the time to
actually guide your kids (and monitor or log their
violations and punish them for those infractions) then
get some real web content filtering. A simple Google
search will reveal how to reset the Content Advisor's
password so any kid can then get in and change its
settings or disable it.

If you allow physical access to the host where is the web
content filtering then the kids are going to get around
it (so the clue here is that you need to put the web
content filtering somewhere upstream of the kid's
computer). However, how are you going to prevent the
kids from using public proxies to do a runaround to your
web content filtering? Those aren't rated and that is
where the connection from your kids' host is made (to
then go to the target "bad" site). Disabling the option
to let users visit unrated sites (so all sites have to be
rated) might help but I'm sure there are enough public
proxies around that gives themselves a glistening clean
rating (because they have no idea to where the user will
tell their proxy to connect). I don't censor myself so
I'm not going to proffer recommendations on a type of
software that deludes parents that their kids won't
figure out how to get around it.
 
J

Jan Il

Jim said:
You're more than welcome, Jan. Didn't want to preempt, but I thought
it might save some time.

Any time....I'm always happy to learn too. ;o))

Jan :)
 
J

JoeK

Jan --- thank you for you help and responses. For
novices like me Newsgroups like this and folks like you
who are willing to help are invaluable. Thanks again...
Joe K
 
J

Jan Il

Hi JoeK
Jan --- thank you for you help and responses. For
novices like me Newsgroups like this and folks like you
who are willing to help are invaluable. Thanks again...

You're very welcome, JoeK! Glad to hear you were able to resolve your
problem.
Good job!

Thank you for posting back and letting us know what worked for you, and for
the benefit of other readers who might have a similar problem. :)

Jan :)
Smiles are meant to be shared,
that's why they're so contagious.

 

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