connecting modem with wireless router

[kirk jim]

The subjectline seems simple, right? thats what i thought too.. but I could
not do it...

let me tell you what I have:
XPsp2 pc
Wireless router: http://kbserver.netgear.com/products/WGT624v3.asp
Adsl modem:
http://speedtouchdsl.de/shop/product_info.php?products_id=5&language=en&

I have an internet connection with the modem that is not a router, the modem
however does
have a place to put your ISP username and password so its on "always on"
mode.
The pc works fine with the internet....

Now I wanted to add the above wireless router... so I connected the modem
with the router,
to its special ethernet socket for the modem, and then connected the
wireless router using a CABLE
to the pc since it has 4 sockets for ethernet as well as the antenna.

So... I was able to get into the web page of the router that is an "Easy
web-based setup".
I followed the steps... and was perplexed when it was asking me for the
username and login for my isp... Why would this router ask for them since
the modem already has them and is "always on" mode?... anyway I entered them
and continued.. it detected the modem, but when it tried to go online I got
an error....

Ok I thought... it is that the routeer must use the modem as a simple modem
and not on the "always on" mode... so I went into the modem and put it in
"bridged" mode.. in this mode when connected to
a pc you could make a dial up connetion via pppoe and you could connet...
then I reconnected the wireless router again put there again my ISP info....
now this "easy setup"
found a different kind of connection and still cound not go online!

So much for easy setup! lol..... At that point I left my friends house
telling her that this needs some studying and asking arround because I cant
figure it out.....

What was I doing wrong? Any guides? I dont have access now to those machines
so I cant try anything.. but if you can tell me some steps or why it didnt
work I can go there another day and try again.

Could it be that both are trying to be dhcp servers or something? the modem
has an internal IP
that is 10.0.0.138 that you type to go to its setup page,
while the wireless router has 192.168.1.1
and actually the router found this IP of the modem in the easy setup and
displayed it..
but I had no internet access.. it said error all the time.

Any advice or if you know a page that has info on this type of thing would
be great.

The manuals which I have downloaded dont say much.. they say that its easy!
lol

thanks in advance

 

[Jack \(MVP-Networking\).]

Hi

If the modem has a Private IP (10.0.0.138), it is a Modem/Router combo.

It is inherent that in the process in order to convert the External Internet
IP to a private IP you need to Route.

Use your Netgear as a switch with an Access Point,
http://www.ezlan.net/router_AP.html

Jack (MVP-Networking).

 

[Frankster]

I followed the steps... and was perplexed when it was asking me for the

username and login for my isp... Why would this router ask for them since
the modem already has them and is "always on" mode?... anyway I entered
them
and continued.. it detected the modem, but when it tried to go online I
got
an error....

Do not enter them! Choose the selection that says you don't need to sign-on
with a username and password.

Since you said you mucked around and set the Netgear to Bridged mode, I
recommend pressing the reset button to get back to factory defaults. Then go
through the setup again choosing not to sign on. It should be "plug-n-play"
after that.

-Frank

 

[kirk jim]

great! at last someone who understand me!

I would love to use the router as a switch-access point.. but all I get is
the stupid easy setup of the router...

I just read here that there is a secret on this modem to bypass the stupid
wizard and get into the "real settings"

http://www.katorlegaz.com/reviews/netgear_WGR614/index.php

" until we finally found one line obscurely buried that offered a solution.
It is possible to skip the configuration wizard and setup the router
manually by accessing http://www.routerlogin.net/basicsetting.htm."

This is the manual for this wireless router
http://kbserver.netgear.com/pdf/wgt624v3_ref_manual_25Apr05.pdf

if you see that manual what else must I change in order to get it working
as a switch & wireless access point?

 

[kirk jim]

Nope you could not avoid entering them in this "setup wizard".
if you did not enter anything it would give you a warning that you have not
entered the info
and you could not press the next button...

after some searching I found this page that gives a special link to bypass
this horrid wizard
(the manual says nothing about this)
http://www.katorlegaz.com/reviews/netgear_WGR614/index.php

now that I can get into the real settings page I may be able to make it
work...

You say that I made the netgear in bridge mode... this is incorrect.. I put
the speedtouch thomson modem in bridged mode to try like that.. but I then
put the settings back as they were before.

 

[Jack \(MVP-Networking\).]

Hi
Yeah this is the secret, http://www.routerlogin.net/basicsetting.htm."
I never understood why Netgear did this.
Good Luck.
Jack (MVP-Networking).

 

[Lem]

great! at last someone who understand me!

I would love to use the router as a switch-access point.. but all I get is
the stupid easy setup of the router...

I just read here that there is a secret on this modem to bypass the stupid
wizard and get into the "real settings"

http://www.katorlegaz.com/reviews/netgear_WGR614/index.php

" until we finally found one line obscurely buried that offered a solution.
It is possible to skip the configuration wizard and setup the router
manually by accessing http://www.routerlogin.net/basicsetting.htm."

This is the manual for this wireless router
http://kbserver.netgear.com/pdf/wgt624v3_ref_manual_25Apr05.pdf

if you see that manual what else must I change in order to get it working
as a switch & wireless access point?

What you need to do -- now that you can get at the router's
configuration pages, is go to the LAN IP setup screen in the Advanced
section. You need to set the router's LAN IP address -- the one you use
to access the configuration utility -- to an address in the same subnet
as that used by the router in the Speedtouch: 10.a.b.c You should try
to pick an address that is not in the "DHCP Pool" of addresses that the
Speedtouch's DHCP server uses to allocate addresses. You may be able to
find this out by accessing the Speedtouch's configuration screens.
Otherwise, try using 10.0.0.200. Set the subnet mask to 255.0.0.0.
Make a note of the IP address you set; write it on a piece of paper and
tape it to the router.

On the same page, disable the router's DHCP server.

Apply the changes and exit the router's configuration utility.

Connect the cable from the modem to one of the 4 switched jacks on the
router. Leave the "Internet" jack on the router open.

Connect another Ethernet cable from the computer to one of the other 3
switched jacks on the router. You should now have Internet connectivity
-- and now you can think about configuring the wireless part of the
network. If http://www.routerlogin.net/basicsetting.htm doesn't get you
back to the router's configuration utility, use the IP address you set
above.

 

[kirk jim]

Wow Lem what a marvelous analytical and brilliant post!

I will try it soon and post back...

THANK YOU .. I wish more people were helpful like you...

I help people as much as I can too, but Im not an expert in this wireless
router thing...
since I never owned a wireless router.. but Im trying to learn...

 

[Jim]

The subjectline seems simple, right? thats what i thought too.. but I
could
not do it...

let me tell you what I have:
XPsp2 pc
Wireless router: http://kbserver.netgear.com/products/WGT624v3.asp
Adsl modem:
http://speedtouchdsl.de/shop/product_info.php?products_id=5&language=en&

I have an internet connection with the modem that is not a router, the
modem
however does
have a place to put your ISP username and password so its on "always on"
mode.
The pc works fine with the internet....

Now I wanted to add the above wireless router... so I connected the modem
with the router,
to its special ethernet socket for the modem, and then connected the
wireless router using a CABLE
to the pc since it has 4 sockets for ethernet as well as the antenna.

So... I was able to get into the web page of the router that is an "Easy
web-based setup".
I followed the steps... and was perplexed when it was asking me for the
username and login for my isp... Why would this router ask for them since
the modem already has them and is "always on" mode?... anyway I entered
them
and continued.. it detected the modem, but when it tried to go online I
got
an error....

The modem knows nothing. The knowledge the username and password for your
ISP resides in the computer. The computer logs on to the ISP using the
username and password that you entered.

This situation all changed when you inserted the router into the mix. The
router is asking for a username and password because it need the
information. Now, the router sends the username and password to your ISP
through the modem. Thus, you must enter this data into the router software.

The router setup disk which came with my router knew how to retrieve the
username and password and connection mode from the computer. But, this is
merely a convenience, and need not be present in all setup disks.

Jim

 

[Jim]

Do not enter them! Choose the selection that says you don't need to
sign-on with a username and password.

Some ISPs permit this and some don't. You must follow the requirements of
the ISP
Jim

 

[Frankster]

I installed this same model Netgear for one of my clients last week and I
could do it. In fact, the reason he had to call in a consultant was that he
was entering the username and password when he shouldn't have been. Strange.
Different firmware?

-Frank