Complaint about the MVP REHAN: #20050731


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webmaster

Attention Mr. Eddy and Mr. Brown both of Microsoft

Well, I guess you are both on Holiday. This bot will keep posting until you return and reply to the complaint as it is outlined in this message. As you have also not yet replied to the question of who are your supervisers, I will remind you that I require that information as well. Failure to provide that information will be commented upon when the written complaint is sent to the V.P. which will also include the total number of these messages sent before you replied.

An MVP who wishes to remain anonymous (and from what I hear that's exactly what he should do) has pointed me towards the below message. I fully expect you to do your usual NOTHING, but I rather thought that the rest of the world should witness your reaction. So here is the message...

Re: John Kelly - The Thread of Doom!
Rehan </Forums/User/UserProfile.aspx?UserName=Rehan>
www.rehanfx.org <http://www.rehanfx.org> Joined: 21 Apr 2004 Total Posts:
945
Posted: 30 Mar 2005 05:53 AM For those who do not frequent the ms nwsgroup:
As his attacks increased in frequency and viciousness I finally gave in and
broke my restraint with this j**k. A flame war erupted where he met equal
measures of blows and the drama ended with him humiliated and running away
for a week.... Sorry but only a week... Will try harder next time :)

The attacks he refers to were the ones where another MVP had to tell him I was correct and that he was WRONG. Equal Measures !!!....this guy is a screem...he should be on the stage....Will Try Harder Next Time ??? Hmmmmmmmmm

Now then...the below message from Eddy.

Greetings,

I have received multiple complaints regarding personal attacks made by
you in the microsoft.public.windowsxp.moviemaker newsgroup. After
reviewing posts made by you, we believe that they are abusive and
violate the Rules of Conduct for our newsgroups as listed at
http://www.microsoft.com/communities/conduct/default.mspx. We would
request that you refrain from using the Microsoft newsgroups for
personal attacks.

If you disagree with our assessment of your posts, or have any
questions, you may contact us at (e-mail address removed) or myself directly
at (e-mail address removed).

John Eddy
Microsoft Newsgroups Administrator

This one tears me up..no seriously....the complainer TED BREWER was brought in as a special event to the newsgroup to post that complaint....but people with short memories will not realise that he posted one many weeks before where he also said I was being added to his kill file. Brewer would have ordinary users believe that he is a casual spectator (he is NOT a poster in any sense of the word as he only posts according to the needs of others)

Now lets take a look at some of the other Numerous complainers you say you have received messages from.....Middleton = Parker = Prestonian...and as each of these identities have stirred up flame wars and as they are all the same person that leaves us with the thought that it was a concerted effort. We now have another "mvp" called Hughes who has joined forces with Parker and after all this time clearly identifies himself as one of the trouble makers it leaves you with a vey diminished list of so called complainers and three prominent "mvp"'s who are not exactly what you wanted in that role. Yet you still encourage them, so it seens. Why is that? Have you dug yourself so large a hole that you can no longer climb out. What future do you see for yourselves???

The attempts by a person using a woman's name (see other thread in moviemakers forum by woman claiming to be blocked. More on that below) and the person calling himself KDE to initiate additional arguments.....I was fore warned...SO SORRY FELLAS...you just cant trust anyone.

The woman complaining she was blocked....well who/where would you run to in order to complain about being blocked from a website???....of course...go to the moviemaker forum and post a message titled "Who is John Kelly"......Pathetic fellas...really pathetic

Rehan and his helpers from the MVPS.....it was suggested that I lay a trap, actually the idea was already in mind...So I post a message based on a TV advert in the UK. That advert stats that the human eye can actually see less than one million colours....what happens...REHAN digs out a 7 year old web page and quotes a section of that page out of context..he also added words that are NOT in the document....I forget and can't be bothered to check the exact wording but it was almost designed to make you think that the flame starter REHAN actually knew the Dr. in question he referred to him as being HIGHLY respected in this field etc A Comment clearly designed to start an argument .....and then another funny happens....one of the friends of the flame starter REHAN adds comments to the thread in this group about the number of bits and what they are used for in an image.......but SHE included her normal signature......go check and look for any time prior to this event for messages by this person????

Another clear attempt at starting a flame war...and by an MVP

ARE YOU GETTING THE PICTURE YET???? IS IT SINKING IN AT ALL ????

Well, I guess you both have "A" picture, you made rehan a Microsoft Valued Professional LOLOLOLOLOL

While I am thinking along these lines, YOU mr eddy...and your vicious and nasty attack on me when I posted a message to a whole bunch of newsgroups by mistake...REMEMBER ???? Yes Mr. Eddy (Microsoft Newsgroups Administrator) I remember.....I continually referred you to the rules of Usenet and you repeatedly said you did not comply with those rules......lets just take a little look at your message above... Ah Yes...I can see (e-mail address removed)....hold on a second...you said........

I won't bother adding any more to the above....I just want the public to see exactly how you deal with complaints when an MVP (papajohn) is caught out over his blatant lying...SIXTY THREE NEWSGROUPS being just one example LOL and what you do when a complete novice (rehan) tries to back up the LIAR Papajohn...you made him an MVP as well !!! LOLOLOL

And you wonder why I turned down your offer to discus being an mvp myself further LOLOL

A far as your e-mail goes mr eddy...I really could not give a hoot what you say think or do (because I can prove that papajohn is a LIAR)...as far as your "Review" goes....don't make me laugh...you are clearly highly biased and quite happy to steer a conversation in any direction that suits just you and those you protect.and having done a very quick check, I find that I am not alone when thinking this..... When that chap wished you would die, did you ban him from ever using a Microsoft Newsgroup??? What did you do when REHAN hoped that I would die soon?? (in one of his messages posted in here)

Finally, you are blacklisted and neither you or Brown will be able to send further insulting emails
 
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J

John Kelly

Hello,

Sorry, I forgot to mention the new identity for one of the flame
starters....24.128.211.76 That's the I.P. they use, but having run a full
search of all newsgroups for recent times I don't seem to be able to find
any message posted by a user having that ip address....funny that,
especially as the person seems to have a knowledge of newsgroups and about
where to find various flame starting articles...don't you think?? I'm
pretty sure you know that it is parker again....but who cares...its just a
moron.
 
D

DI

Are you the only one in the Birmingham area that doesn't have a life or are
there others like you, just want to make sure it is not the water.
And apparently you don't understand English.... FIX YOU COMPLAINTS and
PROBLEMS away from this Newsgroup....
ps I am DI and have no idea who Parker is or what you are talking about. So
as I said before, go take your meds.
Folks in this Newsgroup should not have to deal or listen to your problems.

DI
 
E

eeyore

Hi John,
I find your responses to questions re Moviemaker very informative,
however I dont want to be a spectator of your disagreements with
Microsoft or various others within this group.

Therefore I would like the opportunity to filter out your disagreement
discussions from your help and information. Is there any chance that you
can either
1. use a different user address for complaint threads, or,
2. use a single thread for complaints
(the single thread would be best as it will immediately filter and
comments by others/responses at the same time). That way I can filter
the discussion out.

I undertake to request the same service from others who make it through
any filters while I am a member of this group.

Thanks for your consideration


Rob
 
D

DI

The answer to your problem is below.

If you wish to
discuss this matter further, you may contact them at (e-mail address removed) or
(e-mail address removed).

DI
 
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K

KDE

hey pal,
as a very casual observer (troll) of this and other groups and as an
occasional poster (very infrequent) I was shocked to see my name dragged
into your petty squabble with, well... everyone. I try very hard to not get
involved. I have always thought you to be a petty, paranoid, and somewhat
delusional human being, but to reference a harmless post of mine, asking why
you feel the necessity to post the same FAQ EVERYDAY, when there is NEVER
anything new to add in it, just proves to me you are paranoid. I do not
work, for Microsoft, I do not know ANYONE who does, I do not know Rehan, and
I am not part of some conspiracy to hurt your feelings. Keep me out of your
trash wars, and climb back under your rock.

KDE

|
| Attention Mr. Eddy and Mr. Brown both of Microsoft
|
| Well, I guess you are both on Holiday. This bot will keep posting
until you return and reply to the complaint as it is outlined in this
message. As you have also not yet replied to the question of who are your
supervisers, I will remind you that I require that information as well.
Failure to provide that information will be commented upon when the written
complaint is sent to the V.P. which will also include the total number of
these messages sent before you replied.
|
| An MVP who wishes to remain anonymous (and from what I hear that's
exactly what he should do) has pointed me towards the below message. I
fully expect you to do your usual NOTHING, but I rather thought that the
rest of the world should witness your reaction. So here is the message...
|
| Re: John Kelly - The Thread of Doom!
| Rehan </Forums/User/UserProfile.aspx?UserName=Rehan>
| www.rehanfx.org <http://www.rehanfx.org> Joined: 21 Apr 2004 Total Posts:
| 945
| Posted: 30 Mar 2005 05:53 AM For those who do not frequent the ms
nwsgroup:
| As his attacks increased in frequency and viciousness I finally gave in
and
| broke my restraint with this j**k. A flame war erupted where he met equal
| measures of blows and the drama ended with him humiliated and running away
| for a week.... Sorry but only a week... Will try harder next time :)
|
| The attacks he refers to were the ones where another MVP had to tell
him I was correct and that he was WRONG. Equal Measures !!!....this guy is a
screem...he should be on the stage....Will Try Harder Next Time ???
Hmmmmmmmmm
|
| Now then...the below message from Eddy.
|
| Greetings,
|
| I have received multiple complaints regarding personal attacks made by
| you in the microsoft.public.windowsxp.moviemaker newsgroup. After
| reviewing posts made by you, we believe that they are abusive and
| violate the Rules of Conduct for our newsgroups as listed at
| http://www.microsoft.com/communities/conduct/default.mspx. We would
| request that you refrain from using the Microsoft newsgroups for
| personal attacks.
|
| If you disagree with our assessment of your posts, or have any
| questions, you may contact us at (e-mail address removed) or myself directly
| at (e-mail address removed).
|
| John Eddy
| Microsoft Newsgroups Administrator
|
| This one tears me up..no seriously....the complainer TED BREWER was
brought in as a special event to the newsgroup to post that complaint....but
people with short memories will not realise that he posted one many weeks
before where he also said I was being added to his kill file. Brewer would
have ordinary users believe that he is a casual spectator (he is NOT a
poster in any sense of the word as he only posts according to the needs of
others)
|
| Now lets take a look at some of the other Numerous complainers you
say you have received messages from.....Middleton = Parker =
Prestonian...and as each of these identities have stirred up flame wars and
as they are all the same person that leaves us with the thought that it was
a concerted effort. We now have another "mvp" called Hughes who has joined
forces with Parker and after all this time clearly identifies himself as one
of the trouble makers it leaves you with a vey diminished list of so called
complainers and three prominent "mvp"'s who are not exactly what you wanted
in that role. Yet you still encourage them, so it seens. Why is that? Have
you dug yourself so large a hole that you can no longer climb out. What
future do you see for yourselves???
|
| The attempts by a person using a woman's name (see other thread in
moviemakers forum by woman claiming to be blocked. More on that below) and
the person calling himself KDE to initiate additional arguments.....I was
fore warned...SO SORRY FELLAS...you just cant trust anyone.
|
| The woman complaining she was blocked....well who/where would you run
to in order to complain about being blocked from a website???....of
course...go to the moviemaker forum and post a message titled "Who is John
Kelly"......Pathetic fellas...really pathetic
|
| Rehan and his helpers from the MVPS.....it was suggested that I lay a
trap, actually the idea was already in mind...So I post a message based on a
TV advert in the UK. That advert stats that the human eye can actually see
less than one million colours....what happens...REHAN digs out a 7 year old
web page and quotes a section of that page out of context..he also added
words that are NOT in the document....I forget and can't be bothered to
check the exact wording but it was almost designed to make you think that
the flame starter REHAN actually knew the Dr. in question he referred to him
as being HIGHLY respected in this field etc A Comment clearly designed to
start an argument .....and then another funny happens....one of the friends
of the flame starter REHAN adds comments to the thread in this group about
the number of bits and what they are used for in an image.......but SHE
included her normal signature......go check and look for any time prior to
this event for messages by this person????
|
| Another clear attempt at starting a flame war...and by an MVP
|
| ARE YOU GETTING THE PICTURE YET???? IS IT SINKING IN AT ALL ????
|
| Well, I guess you both have "A" picture, you made rehan a Microsoft
Valued Professional LOLOLOLOLOL
|
| While I am thinking along these lines, YOU mr eddy...and your vicious
and nasty attack on me when I posted a message to a whole bunch of
newsgroups by mistake...REMEMBER ???? Yes Mr. Eddy (Microsoft Newsgroups
Administrator) I remember.....I continually referred you to the rules of
Usenet and you repeatedly said you did not comply with those rules......lets
just take a little look at your message above... Ah Yes...I can see
(e-mail address removed)....hold on a second...you said........
|
| I won't bother adding any more to the above....I just want the public
to see exactly how you deal with complaints when an MVP (papajohn) is caught
out over his blatant lying...SIXTY THREE NEWSGROUPS being just one example
LOL and what you do when a complete novice (rehan) tries to back up the LIAR
Papajohn...you made him an MVP as well !!! LOLOLOL
|
| And you wonder why I turned down your offer to discus being an mvp
myself further LOLOL
|
| A far as your e-mail goes mr eddy...I really could not give a hoot
what you say think or do (because I can prove that papajohn is a LIAR)...as
far as your "Review" goes....don't make me laugh...you are clearly highly
biased and quite happy to steer a conversation in any direction that suits
just you and those you protect.and having done a very quick check, I find
that I am not alone when thinking this..... When that chap wished you would
die, did you ban him from ever using a Microsoft Newsgroup??? What did you
do when REHAN hoped that I would die soon?? (in one of his messages posted
in here)
|
| Finally, you are blacklisted and neither you or Brown will be able to
send further insulting emails
|
| --
| John Kelly
| No No, The Truth Is, I Am Not An Instant Expert, but I know someone who
is................
|
| Have a Real Nice Day Y' here!!
 
J

John Kelly

Hey bud!!!

Funny though that I should have received a message just prior to your
post...very odd indeed.

Regarding the FAQ part of your message. If you know what the letters stand
for try repeating them to yourself several times placing a lot of emphasis
on the first word.

--
John Kelly
www.the-kellys.org
Truthfully, I am not an Instant Expert, But I know someone who is going to
have to try a LOT harder
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obtained by publishing in any format other peoples work
 
K

KDE

| Hey bud!!!
|
| Funny though that I should have received a message just prior to your
| post...very odd indeed.



WHAT ??? put the aluminum foil back on your head, I think the rays form
the alien ships are starting to affect you.
 
E

eeyore

Hi John,

Though this is not in the same thread as my request, I cant see anything
else in the thread that could be a response and the pronoun used is
different to the rest.

John, is this your response to my request, in which case I dont
understand it.


Rob
 
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E

eeyore

errr.......
never mind I checked google and saw the original post.
Seems my ISP doesnt get a complete feed.
Sigh....if only individual.net was still free.


Rob
 
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