Compacting folders

C

CBoom

yes you are correct.

I did some tests... and indeed bad1 and bad2 have different dbx files!

I stand corrected!

Thanks for this
 
G

Gerry

Bruce

Your response to my first point is the answer of a politician. Would you
agree that non-system ( user created ) folders rarely
corrupt?

So are you saying the sub-folder of the Inbox pops up in the new Inbox
or as a sub-folder in a different part of the folder tree?


--



Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
B

Bruce Hagen

Yes, I agree that user created folders are less likely to become corrupt.

Depending on what actually happened, the subfolders can still be under the
either new or empty Inbox, (most likely), or out in the open. But they will
definitely be somewhere in the folder tree unless they were accidentally
deleted, but that's a whole different topic.
 
B

Bruce Hagen

You're welcome. What you had stated was the way I thought way back when,
--

Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA
until I was shown the light. <w>
 
P

PA Bear [MS MVP]

General OE Caveats to avoid such problems:

- Don't use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages. Move them to local
folders created for this purpose.

- Empty Deleted Items folder daily.

- Frequently perform a manual compact of all OE folders while "working
offline". More at http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm

- Do not cancel Automatic Compacting, should it occur, and do not attempt to
close OE via Task Manager or shutdown your machine if Automatic Compacting
is taking place.

- Disable email scanning by your anti-virus application. It can cause
corruption (i.e., loss of messages) and provides no additional protection:

Why you don't need your anti-virus to scan your email
http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tutorials/email-scanning/index.htm
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

cajun_mike said:
One of the problems of compacting files are that I have folders under the
"Inbox" folders and then sub-folders under some of them for organizational
purposes. The compacting process doesn't handle this well and data is
lost
during the compacting process, thus my reluctance to compact. Is there
something I can do about this issue?
[X-Posted to OE General]

How can you stop it? Let it compact and you won't be bothered for another
100 closings of OE.

Why does OE insist on compacting folders when I close it?:
http://www.insideoe.com/faqs/why.htm#compact

About File Corruption:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/community/columns/filecorruption.mspx

Compacting your folders periodically is a must to keep OE functioning
well
and at some point, you may lose all your saved messages if you don't.
When
you delete, or move messages, the space they had used remains until you
compact.

***Never touch anything until the compacting is finished.***

See:
www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#2

With SP2, automatic background compacting was removed due to problems it
caused. Now you will get a prompt to compact after 100 OE closings, which
you should do, and don't touch anything until it has finished. If you
compact manually, at your convenience, this will also set the counter
back
to zero. See this for more information:
http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm#compact

If you are fully patched, you will also now see a copy of your dbx files
being copied to the Recycle Bin as BAK files. Should something go awry
when
compacting, the messages can easily be restored from this backup. A
manual
compact will also reset the counter in the registry back to zero now.

For more info, see the information outlined in red here:
www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#2

To keep things running smooth, and for faster compacting:

Do not archive mail in default OE folders. They will eventually become
corrupt and you may lose mail. Create your own user defined folders for
storing mail and move your mail to them. Empty Deleted Items folder
regularly. Keep user created folders under 100MB, and Default folders as
empty as is feasible.
I've reached the point where every time I exit OE I'm asked if I want to
compact my folders to save space. The answer is, and will be, no. I
have
plenty of space, back up often, and run Outlook Express Quick Backup.
No
sweat.

How can I stop the program from repeatedly asking me if I want to back
up
the folders?

Thanks a million!

Mike
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G

Gerry

Bruce

My point is that there is unlikely to be any problem if they are not
sub-folders of the Inbox. They will be where they were before the Inbox
was corrupted.



--



Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
B

Bruce Hagen

OK. I am just saying that having subfolders under the Inbox does not add to
the likelihood of Inbox corruption. I'll leave it at that.
 
G

Gerry

OK Bruce

Your amendment to your signature prompted me to read to read about
Imperial Beach. Someone has gathered a lot of information and put it on
Wikipaedia. I do not remember Imperial Beach but my wife and I did enjoy
a brief visit to San Diego about 8 years ago. Oh we did not build any
sand castles!

--



Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
G

Gerry

Bruce

My recollection is a very pleasant boat trip to near what must be the
North Island Naval Station. Lots of naval aircraft, a large Aircraft
carrier and birds ( feathered variety.).

--
Regards.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
B

Bruce Hagen

They have daily trips on a "tour boat" that goes from the bridge, around
North Island and back. Probably on one of those.

NAS-NI is the home of the USS Nimitz (CVN-68) and the USS Ronald Reagan
(CVN-76) aircraft carriers. It is something to be out in the bay fishing
when one of these ships returns from a tour at sea.
 
C

cajun_mike

Bruce, thanks for all your information. "Define..." One of the problems
appeared to be nested folders where I'd have folders under the Inbox which
had folders of their own. I don't think the compacting program handled them
well.

OK. It sounds like I need to do some more work. I'm going to start a new
thread on folders which seems to be giving me the majority of my problems.
Thank you to all who wrote to help!

Mike


:

<snip>
 
R

Robin Clay

cajun_mike said:
OK. It sounds like I need to do some more work. I'm going to start a new
thread on folders which seems to be giving me the majority of my problems.
Thank you to all who wrote to help!
Click to expand...

Chicken !

NOBODY, yet, in this thread, has answered the Original Poster's question,
which was:-
How can I stop the program from repeatedly asking me if I want to back up
the folders?
Click to expand...

I seek the reply.

Regards

Robin
 
B

Bruce Hagen

L

laceymike

I gave up on the process. I did create a separate set of folders but
continued to have the same 'issue'. Frankly, I got tired of trying one thing
and then another and migrated to Mozilla's Thunderbird and don't experience
any problems with it. I don't want to blow you guys off. Thank you for all
your collective and individual help in this. Microsoft has a lousy product
in this case and should have put some serious work into it. Shame on them.

This *is* cajun_mike but I couldn't remember my username nor password and
wasn't challenged for my secret identity.

Thanks again to you all,

Mike
 

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