Comment: Ch5/SBS/p144/Exercise 05_Calculations doc and 05_LoanData

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Liontamer

Steps 1-11: Very Clear
Only suggestion: Label these steps to depict that you're showing how to use
the formula button in a table being created in a word document.

Steps 12 - 13: Clear
However: let the reader know that all you're really doing is showing us: How
to copy cells from an Excel worksheet to a Word document. There's really
nothing more being done with these steps.

Steps 14 - 20: More work needed here.
Your pre existing examples are not working properly.
The reader should recreate their own simple word document and excel workbook.
Again: Tell the reader what you're really trying to demonstrate in this
sequence of steps. A subheading as: "How to use Paste Special, MS Excel
Worksheet Object, and Paste Link" would help the reader know what's being
shown.
Also, the options: Paste and Paste link need a clearer explaination.
In my attempts to understand these steps, I found that recreating my own
document and sheet helped.
Step 19 seems unnecessary!

Steps 21 - 27: Very Clear
Subheading needed here: "How to put an Excel Spreadsheet into a Word
Document while remaining in the Word Document."
Wow, we can do all this stuff! Yippie!





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Suzanne S. Barnhill

Can you provide a link to the tutorial you're commenting on? If this is in a
printed book, then your feedback should go to Microsoft Press, not here.
 
G

grammatim

It is in fact Word2007 Step by Step.

Can you provide a link to the tutorial you're commenting on? If this is in a
printed book, then your feedback should go to Microsoft Press, not here.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
 
L

Liontamer

Thank you grammatim. Suzzanne, needs to realize, that I think Microsoft
Press reviews these comments. The authors of SBS: Joyce Cox and Joan
Preppernau have done a stellar job with SBS. The first five chapters were
incredibly helpful, but it's stuff like I've commented on previously in this
thread needs attention. If either of you have contact with Joyce Cox and
Joan Preppernau then please help them review my original comments. Surely,
they'll appreciate what I've pointed out. You all: have a great day!
 
G

grammatim

What's your evidence that anyone from Microsoft looks at, let alone
monitors, this newsgroup?

And even if they do, why would the software engineers or customer
service people (whichever you imagine are doing it) take an interest
in a printed book that they had nothing to do with?

How would Microsoft Press know that a comment about one of their books
was posted to a newsgroup in which Word users help each other?

(See also the last paragraph on the copyright page, where it is stated
that the content is entirely the responsibility of the authors and
Microsoft explicitly disavows it. Note the url on p. [382] for
comments.)
 
S

Suzanne S. Barnhill

Following up on this, I googled and found
http://www.microsoft.com/learning/support/books/default.mspx, which has URLs
for comments on Microsoft Press books and CDs. In addition,
http://www.microsoft.com/learning/Books/faq/default.mspx answers the
question "How do I send feedback or a comment about my book to Microsoft
Press?"

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

grammatim said:
What's your evidence that anyone from Microsoft looks at, let alone
monitors, this newsgroup?

And even if they do, why would the software engineers or customer
service people (whichever you imagine are doing it) take an interest
in a printed book that they had nothing to do with?

How would Microsoft Press know that a comment about one of their books
was posted to a newsgroup in which Word users help each other?

(See also the last paragraph on the copyright page, where it is stated
that the content is entirely the responsibility of the authors and
Microsoft explicitly disavows it. Note the url on p. [382] for
comments.)

Thank you grammatim. Suzzanne, needs to realize, that I think Microsoft
Press reviews these comments. The authors of SBS: Joyce Cox and Joan
Preppernau have done a stellar job with SBS. The first five chapters
were
incredibly helpful, but it's stuff like I've commented on previously in
this
thread needs attention. If either of you have contact with Joyce Cox and
Joan Preppernau then please help them review my original comments.
Surely,
they'll appreciate what I've pointed out. You all: have a great day!
 
G

grammatim

Which they'll find not only on the last page of the book, but also at
the bottom of the first and last pages of the ToC (and probably
somewhere in the introductions, too.)

Following up on this, I googled and foundhttp://www.microsoft.com/learning/support/books/default.mspx, which has URLs
for comments on Microsoft Press books and CDs. In addition,http://www.microsoft.com/learning/Books/faq/default.mspxanswers the
question "How do I send feedback or a comment about my book to Microsoft
Press?"

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA


What's your evidence that anyone from Microsoft looks at, let alone
monitors, this newsgroup?
And even if they do, why would the software engineers or customer
service people (whichever you imagine are doing it) take an interest
in a printed book that they had nothing to do with?
How would Microsoft Press know that a comment about one of their books
was posted to a newsgroup in which Word users help each other?
(See also the last paragraph on the copyright page, where it is stated
that the content is entirely the responsibility of the authors and
Microsoft explicitly disavows it. Note the url on p. [382] for
comments.)
 
S

Suzanne S. Barnhill

I assumed it was probably the same, but clicking on an URL in a NG post when
you're already online is a lot easier than laboriously typing a long URL
into the address bar of your browser. <g>

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

grammatim said:
Which they'll find not only on the last page of the book, but also at
the bottom of the first and last pages of the ToC (and probably
somewhere in the introductions, too.)

Following up on this, I googled and
foundhttp://www.microsoft.com/learning/support/books/default.mspx, which
has URLs
for comments on Microsoft Press books and CDs. In
addition,http://www.microsoft.com/learning/Books/faq/default.mspxanswers
the
question "How do I send feedback or a comment about my book to Microsoft
Press?"

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA


What's your evidence that anyone from Microsoft looks at, let alone
monitors, this newsgroup?
And even if they do, why would the software engineers or customer
service people (whichever you imagine are doing it) take an interest
in a printed book that they had nothing to do with?
How would Microsoft Press know that a comment about one of their books
was posted to a newsgroup in which Word users help each other?
(See also the last paragraph on the copyright page, where it is stated
that the content is entirely the responsibility of the authors and
Microsoft explicitly disavows it. Note the url on p. [382] for
comments.)
On Oct 19, 6:40 am, Liontamer <[email protected]>
wrote:
Thank you grammatim. Suzzanne, needs to realize, that I think
Microsoft
Press reviews these comments. The authors of SBS: Joyce Cox and Joan
Preppernau have done a stellar job with SBS. The first five chapters
were
incredibly helpful, but it's stuff like I've commented on previously
in
this
thread needs attention. If either of you have contact with Joyce Cox
and
Joan Preppernau then please help them review my original comments.
Surely,
they'll appreciate what I've pointed out. You all: have a great day!
:
It is in fact Word2007 Step by Step.
On Oct 18, 9:43 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <[email protected]>
wrote:
Can you provide a link to the tutorial you're commenting on? If
this
is in a
printed book, then your feedback should go to Microsoft Press, not
here.
--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Wow, we can do all this stuff! Yippie!
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L

Liontamer

You need to realize, that I am indeed trying to help others with my comments.
All Word '07 users, who are attempting to follow the 05 Exercise in this
book, need to be aware of the problem I ran into. And I thank you for taking
the time to educate me about things. Your points are well taken.

It would be great if MS reps did read though these comments.
Better if the authors read through them too.
See, now, I have a better understanding about this newsgroup. It's only
other Word'07 users helping each other. Humm, I stand corrected.



grammatim said:
What's your evidence that anyone from Microsoft looks at, let alone
monitors, this newsgroup?

And even if they do, why would the software engineers or customer
service people (whichever you imagine are doing it) take an interest
in a printed book that they had nothing to do with?

How would Microsoft Press know that a comment about one of their books
was posted to a newsgroup in which Word users help each other?

(See also the last paragraph on the copyright page, where it is stated
that the content is entirely the responsibility of the authors and
Microsoft explicitly disavows it. Note the url on p. [382] for
comments.)

Thank you grammatim. Suzzanne, needs to realize, that I think Microsoft
Press reviews these comments. The authors of SBS: Joyce Cox and Joan
Preppernau have done a stellar job with SBS. The first five chapters were
incredibly helpful, but it's stuff like I've commented on previously in this
thread needs attention. If either of you have contact with Joyce Cox and
Joan Preppernau then please help them review my original comments. Surely,
they'll appreciate what I've pointed out. You all: have a great day!
 
L

Liontamer

Suzanne: Thank you for your input here. I think you know that I'm just
trying to do the right thing. Have you forwarded my original comments to
Microsoft? If you've all ready figured out where to send my comments than
thanks. If not then I'll try to figure it out and do this myself.
Everything seems to be just so complicated and time consuming to those of us
who don't have the experience you pros do. Hope you understand. Have a
pleasant day.

Suzanne S. Barnhill said:
I assumed it was probably the same, but clicking on an URL in a NG post when
you're already online is a lot easier than laboriously typing a long URL
into the address bar of your browser. <g>

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

grammatim said:
Which they'll find not only on the last page of the book, but also at
the bottom of the first and last pages of the ToC (and probably
somewhere in the introductions, too.)

Following up on this, I googled and
foundhttp://www.microsoft.com/learning/support/books/default.mspx, which
has URLs
for comments on Microsoft Press books and CDs. In
addition,http://www.microsoft.com/learning/Books/faq/default.mspxanswers
the
question "How do I send feedback or a comment about my book to Microsoft
Press?"

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA



What's your evidence that anyone from Microsoft looks at, let alone
monitors, this newsgroup?

And even if they do, why would the software engineers or customer
service people (whichever you imagine are doing it) take an interest
in a printed book that they had nothing to do with?

How would Microsoft Press know that a comment about one of their books
was posted to a newsgroup in which Word users help each other?

(See also the last paragraph on the copyright page, where it is stated
that the content is entirely the responsibility of the authors and
Microsoft explicitly disavows it. Note the url on p. [382] for
comments.)

On Oct 19, 6:40 am, Liontamer <[email protected]>
wrote:
Thank you grammatim. Suzzanne, needs to realize, that I think
Microsoft
Press reviews these comments. The authors of SBS: Joyce Cox and Joan
Preppernau have done a stellar job with SBS. The first five chapters
were
incredibly helpful, but it's stuff like I've commented on previously
in
this
thread needs attention. If either of you have contact with Joyce Cox
and
Joan Preppernau then please help them review my original comments.
Surely,
they'll appreciate what I've pointed out. You all: have a great day!

:
It is in fact Word2007 Step by Step.

On Oct 18, 9:43 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <[email protected]>
wrote:
Can you provide a link to the tutorial you're commenting on? If
this
is in a
printed book, then your feedback should go to Microsoft Press, not
here.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA



Wow, we can do all this stuff! Yippie!

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Suzanne S. Barnhill

No, I did not forward your comments to "Microsoft." Believe it or not, I
don't have a direct line to anyone at MS, much less the authors of this
book. I provided the URL to facilitate your sending your comments where they
can actually do some good.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

Liontamer said:
Suzanne: Thank you for your input here. I think you know that I'm just
trying to do the right thing. Have you forwarded my original comments to
Microsoft? If you've all ready figured out where to send my comments than
thanks. If not then I'll try to figure it out and do this myself.
Everything seems to be just so complicated and time consuming to those of
us
who don't have the experience you pros do. Hope you understand. Have a
pleasant day.

Suzanne S. Barnhill said:
I assumed it was probably the same, but clicking on an URL in a NG post
when
you're already online is a lot easier than laboriously typing a long URL
into the address bar of your browser. <g>

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

grammatim said:
Which they'll find not only on the last page of the book, but also at
the bottom of the first and last pages of the ToC (and probably
somewhere in the introductions, too.)

Following up on this, I googled and
foundhttp://www.microsoft.com/learning/support/books/default.mspx,
which
has URLs
for comments on Microsoft Press books and CDs. In
addition,http://www.microsoft.com/learning/Books/faq/default.mspxanswers
the
question "How do I send feedback or a comment about my book to
Microsoft
Press?"

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA



What's your evidence that anyone from Microsoft looks at, let alone
monitors, this newsgroup?

And even if they do, why would the software engineers or customer
service people (whichever you imagine are doing it) take an interest
in a printed book that they had nothing to do with?

How would Microsoft Press know that a comment about one of their
books
was posted to a newsgroup in which Word users help each other?

(See also the last paragraph on the copyright page, where it is
stated
that the content is entirely the responsibility of the authors and
Microsoft explicitly disavows it. Note the url on p. [382] for
comments.)

On Oct 19, 6:40 am, Liontamer <[email protected]>
wrote:
Thank you grammatim. Suzzanne, needs to realize, that I think
Microsoft
Press reviews these comments. The authors of SBS: Joyce Cox and
Joan
Preppernau have done a stellar job with SBS. The first five
chapters
were
incredibly helpful, but it's stuff like I've commented on
previously
in
this
thread needs attention. If either of you have contact with Joyce
Cox
and
Joan Preppernau then please help them review my original comments.
Surely,
they'll appreciate what I've pointed out. You all: have a great
day!

:
It is in fact Word2007 Step by Step.

On Oct 18, 9:43 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" <[email protected]>
wrote:
Can you provide a link to the tutorial you're commenting on? If
this
is in a
printed book, then your feedback should go to Microsoft Press,
not
here.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

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Suzanne S. Barnhill

Actually, the Word newsgroups on this server (of which there are a couple of
dozen) are for users of *all* versions of Word, which is why it is vital
(especially if you're using Word 2007) to state your version (and often the
OS as well) so that we can best help you.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

Liontamer said:
You need to realize, that I am indeed trying to help others with my
comments.
All Word '07 users, who are attempting to follow the 05 Exercise in this
book, need to be aware of the problem I ran into. And I thank you for
taking
the time to educate me about things. Your points are well taken.

It would be great if MS reps did read though these comments.
Better if the authors read through them too.
See, now, I have a better understanding about this newsgroup. It's only
other Word'07 users helping each other. Humm, I stand corrected.



grammatim said:
What's your evidence that anyone from Microsoft looks at, let alone
monitors, this newsgroup?

And even if they do, why would the software engineers or customer
service people (whichever you imagine are doing it) take an interest
in a printed book that they had nothing to do with?

How would Microsoft Press know that a comment about one of their books
was posted to a newsgroup in which Word users help each other?

(See also the last paragraph on the copyright page, where it is stated
that the content is entirely the responsibility of the authors and
Microsoft explicitly disavows it. Note the url on p. [382] for
comments.)

Thank you grammatim. Suzzanne, needs to realize, that I think
Microsoft
Press reviews these comments. The authors of SBS: Joyce Cox and Joan
Preppernau have done a stellar job with SBS. The first five chapters
were
incredibly helpful, but it's stuff like I've commented on previously in
this
thread needs attention. If either of you have contact with Joyce Cox
and
Joan Preppernau then please help them review my original comments.
Surely,
they'll appreciate what I've pointed out. You all: have a great day!

:
It is in fact Word2007 Step by Step.

Can you provide a link to the tutorial you're commenting on? If
this is in a
printed book, then your feedback should go to Microsoft Press, not
here.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA



Wow, we can do all this stuff! Yippie!

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Liontamer

Yes, I understand. I actually thought I provided enough information in my
subject line. But to be more clear. I am still making time to learn Word
'07. I am using Windows XP, Media Center Edition, Professional, SP3. I've
been reading through a great book, very well written and explained, titled:
Step by Step MS Office Word '07. Written by: Joyce Cox and Joan Preppernau.
These ladies did a really fantasic job. But I ran into some problems with
the exercise on p144 with 05_Calculations doc and 05_Loan. And Suzanne, you
and grammatim, both deserve a warm and hearty thank you for your efforts to
support us new folks. It's people like you that make things easier for us.

Suzanne S. Barnhill said:
Actually, the Word newsgroups on this server (of which there are a couple of
dozen) are for users of *all* versions of Word, which is why it is vital
(especially if you're using Word 2007) to state your version (and often the
OS as well) so that we can best help you.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

Liontamer said:
You need to realize, that I am indeed trying to help others with my
comments.
All Word '07 users, who are attempting to follow the 05 Exercise in this
book, need to be aware of the problem I ran into. And I thank you for
taking
the time to educate me about things. Your points are well taken.

It would be great if MS reps did read though these comments.
Better if the authors read through them too.
See, now, I have a better understanding about this newsgroup. It's only
other Word'07 users helping each other. Humm, I stand corrected.



grammatim said:
What's your evidence that anyone from Microsoft looks at, let alone
monitors, this newsgroup?

And even if they do, why would the software engineers or customer
service people (whichever you imagine are doing it) take an interest
in a printed book that they had nothing to do with?

How would Microsoft Press know that a comment about one of their books
was posted to a newsgroup in which Word users help each other?

(See also the last paragraph on the copyright page, where it is stated
that the content is entirely the responsibility of the authors and
Microsoft explicitly disavows it. Note the url on p. [382] for
comments.)

On Oct 19, 6:40 am, Liontamer <[email protected]>
wrote:
Thank you grammatim. Suzzanne, needs to realize, that I think
Microsoft
Press reviews these comments. The authors of SBS: Joyce Cox and Joan
Preppernau have done a stellar job with SBS. The first five chapters
were
incredibly helpful, but it's stuff like I've commented on previously in
this
thread needs attention. If either of you have contact with Joyce Cox
and
Joan Preppernau then please help them review my original comments.
Surely,
they'll appreciate what I've pointed out. You all: have a great day!

:
It is in fact Word2007 Step by Step.

Can you provide a link to the tutorial you're commenting on? If
this is in a
printed book, then your feedback should go to Microsoft Press, not
here.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA



Wow, we can do all this stuff! Yippie!

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