Coming to terms with Velvia 100F...

[Robert M]

Yes it does, doesn't it? But its a dark color, kind of "navy
blue," not so annoying like this violet purplish made by
the Velvia. Agfa seems to be warmer than Provia/Sensia. I like
it on skin tons and I like the green better.

Personally I made bad experiences with some of the Ektachromes,
foremost with the E200. But Kodak made recently a few new
materials, I might give em a try.

Thomas

You can see one RSX shoot on my site, photo is named Korkyra, a blue
landscape with a small chappel... look in those shadows...

I have succesfully used Ektachrome SW, i think now it is GX but I'm not
sure... well it's my favorite film, if you like saturated warm color...
but not too warm and saturated...

 

[Robert M]

That was me, but I was referring to RSX II. AFAIK the original RSX is
still available for medium format, whereas RSX II is 35 mm-only.
Anyway, I never experienced a blue shadow cast with RSX II
Nevertheless I started trying out Ektachrome as well ...

Yeah, you're right, maybe RSX II is better than old one, but what a
shame that they don't make medium format anymore

You can see one RSX shoot on my site, photo is named Korkyra, a blue
landscape with a small chappel... look in those shadows...

 

[Wilfred]

Yeah, you're right, maybe RSX II is better than old one, but what a
shame that they don't make medium format anymore

As a matter of fact they still do, and I was also wrong because RSX II
is available as 120 roll film, in IS) 50, 100 and 200:
http://www.agfa.com/photo/pdf/products/F-PF-E4_en.pdf
(page 11)

You can see one RSX shoot on my site, photo is named Korkyra, a blue
landscape with a small chappel... look in those shadows...

Yes, it looks like Velvia ;-)
Some pictures I made with RSX II are here:
http://contaxg.com/folder.php?id=1206
Note that the 'bluest' image here is shot on Fuji Sensia, the rest is RSX II

 

[Fernando]

That's funny, I've had great results shooting people with Velvia 100F,
although not in harsh lighting<g>.

Me too.
Maybe a little (just a little) too red/magenta, but not bad. A quick
desaturation of red ad magenta by 15% usually take care of the issue.


Fernando

 

[ThomasH]

As a matter of fact they still do, and I was also wrong because
RSX II is available as 120 roll film, in IS) 50, 100 and 200:
http://www.agfa.com/photo/pdf/products/F-PF-E4_en.pdf
(page 11)


Yes, it looks like Velvia ;-)
Some pictures I made with RSX II are here:
http://contaxg.com/folder.php?id=1206
Note that the 'bluest' image here is shot on Fuji Sensia, the rest is RSX II

I got an error as I tried to access your folder at contaxg:

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Thomas

 

[Wilfred]

Wilfred wrote:

I got an error as I tried to access your folder at contaxg:

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Fatal error: Call to a member function write() on a non-object in /www/siteframe/web/siteframe.php on line 65

That's right - not only for the folder but for the whole domain: the
site must be partially off-line to maintenance. It'll probably work
later on today. One of the RSX II-images is also here:
http://www.vandervegte.com/People/pages/010_Lagow.html

 

[dontthinkso]

Well, that was just a poor scan made in one minilab, I should rescan
some photos on my site, good reminder
Anyway, a polorizes solely is used on that photo, so that may be the
reason for that difference between clouds and waves highlight.

As for overexposure, in old days with cibachrome processing dias should
be a little underexposed 1/3 stop or so, that is not good for scanning,
they should be a little overexposed by that 1/3 stop but with respect
for highlights, so a neutral density gradual filter like cokin could
help on those landscapes with very bright sky...

I will accept your advice to overexpose by 1/3 stop, IF AND ONLY IF that
does not blow out the highlight. (In that case, I would not call it an
overexposure.)

A slide film's latitude remains the same whether you are printing in
Ilfochrome or scanning. Overexposing a slide film may help a scanner
capture more shadow details, but may also blow out the highlight. Once
the highlight details are lost, there is no way to recover them. Whether
you are printing or scanning a slide, the fact remains that you have to
make a choice between retaining the highlight or the shadow details.
Filters can help, but that is besides the point.

 

[Robert M]

I will accept your advice to overexpose by 1/3 stop, IF AND ONLY IF that
does not blow out the highlight. (In that case, I would not call it an
overexposure.)

Well, it's just a matter of speaking...

A slide film's latitude remains the same whether you are printing in
Ilfochrome or scanning. Overexposing a slide film may help a scanner
capture more shadow details, but may also blow out the highlight. Once
the highlight details are lost, there is no way to recover them. Whether
you are printing or scanning a slide, the fact remains that you have to
make a choice between retaining the highlight or the shadow details.
Filters can help, but that is besides the point.

You got it, sometimes a narrow latitude of slide film isn't appropriate
for a job to be done (street shoots, moving scene and all kinds of
reportage and quick shoots) then a negative film is an answer, with it
you have at least two stops of exposure latitude...
So in such high contrast scenes, let's say between a bright sky and
shadowed area, when you are not able to use filters and so, use
negative...

 

[Robert M]

That's right - not only for the folder but for the whole domain: the
site must be partially off-line to maintenance. It'll probably work
later on today. One of the RSX II-images is also here:
http://www.vandervegte.com/People/pages/010_Lagow.html

I always liked those Dutch girls
and I know the secret of their long tight legs

strange but when I look at those two pics I don't see any colour
shifting
very interesting... )
geen problem, maar oplosing!

 

[Hecate]

A slide film's latitude remains the same whether you are printing in
Ilfochrome or scanning. Overexposing a slide film may help a scanner
capture more shadow details, but may also blow out the highlight. Once
the highlight details are lost, there is no way to recover them. Whether
you are printing or scanning a slide, the fact remains that you have to
make a choice between retaining the highlight or the shadow details.
Filters can help, but that is besides the point.

Yes, and you can recover more detail from shadows whereas, as you
point out, once a highlight has gone, it's gone.

 

[dontthinkso]

Well, it's just a matter of speaking...


You got it, sometimes a narrow latitude of slide film isn't appropriate
for a job to be done (street shoots, moving scene and all kinds of
reportage and quick shoots) then a negative film is an answer, with it
you have at least two stops of exposure latitude...
So in such high contrast scenes, let's say between a bright sky and
shadowed area, when you are not able to use filters and so, use
negative...

The question is not whether I've got it, but whether you do. You are
unable to substantiate your advice to overexpose slides by 1/3 stop for
scanning, neither with your own photos, nor in writing. Instead, you
dodged the issue with other alternatives like using filter or negatives.
Be responsible when posting advice in a ng.

 

[Robert M]

The question is not whether I've got it, but whether you do. You are
unable to substantiate your advice to overexpose slides by 1/3 stop for
scanning, neither with your own photos, nor in writing. Instead, you
dodged the issue with other alternatives like using filter or negatives.
Be responsible when posting advice in a ng.

And what is wrong with advice i gave...?

Are you telling me that cibachrome reversal papers don't like a bit
thicker slides, and that for scanning opposite is better ..??

I don't think so...

Of course I am responsible, I'am responsible in every action I take...
I could even say: if you are bored, there are other alternatives than
N.G.!

What I wrote about slides and negs. is common knowledge between
photographers...

 

[Wilfred van der Vegte]

I always liked those Dutch girls
and I know the secret of their long tight legs

strange but when I look at those two pics I don't see any colour
shifting
very interesting... )
geen problem, maar oplosing!

Just to be clear: the picture of the girls was not shot with RSX II (I
think it was Reala). AFAIK, the contaxg website is on-line again and you
could check out the other RSX II shots here:
http://contaxg.com/folder.php?id=1206. The first three and the last
image are RSX II.

 

[Robert M]

Just to be clear: the picture of the girls was not shot with RSX II (I
think it was Reala). AFAIK, the contaxg website is on-line again and you
could check out the other RSX II shots here:
http://contaxg.com/folder.php?id=1206. The first three and the last
image are RSX II.

I'm aware that it is not RSXII, it was a joke...
Even if there were some colour shifting I wouldn't be able to notice it,
would I ?