Clock on pc time loss

G

Guest

Any body help here for the last 2 weeks my clock loses 30 minutes per hour.
ok it great when the wife is playing solitaire but what has happenden? any
cures have tried changing MB battery but still the same
thanks for any help on this
 
G

Guest

My first thought is that your "Bios Battery" is in need of replacement. Check
the literature that came with your computer to find out the battery number
and how to replace it.

Milt
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

Milt said:
My first thought is that your "Bios Battery" is in need of
replacement. Check the literature that came with your computer to
find out the battery number and how to replace it.


No, the symptoms he describes can *not* be his battery.

Before anyone whose clock is running slow rushes out to buy a new battery,
he should first take note of whether he is losing time while the computer is
running or while it's powered off. If it's while powered off, the problem
*is* very likely the battery. But if it's while running (his situation), it
can *not* be the battery, because the battery isn't used while the computer
is running.

If the clock loses time while running, try this:

Open a command prompt window (Start | Run | cmd) and enter the following
commands:

net stop w32time
w32tm /unregister
w32tm /register
net start w32time
 
G

Guest

Thanks for the correction Ken.

Milt

Ken Blake said:
No, the symptoms he describes can *not* be his battery.

Before anyone whose clock is running slow rushes out to buy a new battery,
he should first take note of whether he is losing time while the computer is
running or while it's powered off. If it's while powered off, the problem
*is* very likely the battery. But if it's while running (his situation), it
can *not* be the battery, because the battery isn't used while the computer
is running.

If the clock loses time while running, try this:

Open a command prompt window (Start | Run | cmd) and enter the following
commands:

net stop w32time
w32tm /unregister
w32tm /register
net start w32time
 
G

Guest

Hi thanks Ken and Milt
just to confirm I did replce bios battery first, but this made no
difference, the time loss occures all the time whilst powerd up .
Ken i followed what you said and this is what came up in my cmd window

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Derek>net stop w32time
'net' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

C:\Documents and Settings\Derek>netstop
'netstop' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

C:\Documents and Settings\Derek>w32tm/unregister
'w32tm' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

C:\Documents and Settings\Derek>w32tm/register
'w32tm' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

C:\Documents and Settings\Derek>netstart w32time
'netstart' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

C:\Documents and Settings\Derek>
have I made a mistake here?
Thank you for your help in this
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

dereknice said:
Hi thanks Ken and Milt
just to confirm I did replce bios battery first, but this made no
difference, the time loss occures all the time whilst powerd up .
Ken i followed what you said and this is what came up in my cmd window

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Derek>net stop w32time
'net' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.


Net.exe (netstart and netstop are both wrong; no surprise that they didn't
work) and w32tm.exe are both external commands and they should be in
\windows\system32.

The first thing to do is to look in the \windows\system32 and verify that
they are there. Assuming that they are (and almost certainly they are) you
have a problem with your path, which isn't pointing you there.

Assuming that the files are in place, the list of command I gave you will
run if you first change to the \windows\system32 folder by issuing the
command

cd \windows\system32

Then run the commands in the specified order

Also while you are in the cmd window isssue the command

path

and post back with what the reply is.
 
G

Guest

Hi ken arh ha seems i made a c**k up however have followed your instructions
with an odd error(typical) and below are all of the results from cmd . as you
can see it would appear to have been succesful the only thing that jumped out
at me was areference to cold fusion I do not have this installed on my
machine and have never used it any ideas?
Here are all the cmd replies
many thanks for all your help
Derek
Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Derek>\windows\system32
'\windows\system32' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

C:\Documents and Settings\Derek>cd \ windows\system32.
The system cannot find the path specified.

C:\Documents and Settings\Derek>cmd
'cmd' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

C:\Documents and Settings\Derek>cmd
'cmd' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

C:\Documents and Settings\Derek> cmd
'cmd' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

C:\Documents and Settings\Derek>
C:\Documents and Settings\Derek>cd \windows\system32

C:\WINDOWS\system32>path
PATH=H:\CFusionMX7\verity\k2\_nti40\bin;C:\Program Files\QuickTime\QTSystem\

C:\WINDOWS\system32>net stop w32time
The Windows Time service is stopping.
The Windows Time service was stopped successfully.


C:\WINDOWS\system32>w32tm/unregister
The following error occurred: Access is denied. (0x80070005)

C:\WINDOWS\system32>w32tm /unregister
W32Time successfully registered.

C:\WINDOWS\system32>w32tm /register
W32Time successfully registered.

C:\WINDOWS\system32>net start w32time
The Windows Time service is starting.
The Windows Time service was started successfully.


C:\WINDOWS\system32>

Ken Blake said:
dereknice said:
Hi thanks Ken and Milt
just to confirm I did replce bios battery first, but this made no
difference, the time loss occures all the time whilst powerd up .
Ken i followed what you said and this is what came up in my cmd window

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Derek>net stop w32time
'net' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.


Net.exe (netstart and netstop are both wrong; no surprise that they didn't
work) and w32tm.exe are both external commands and they should be in
\windows\system32.

The first thing to do is to look in the \windows\system32 and verify that
they are there. Assuming that they are (and almost certainly they are) you
have a problem with your path, which isn't pointing you there.

Assuming that the files are in place, the list of command I gave you will
run if you first change to the \windows\system32 folder by issuing the
command

cd \windows\system32

Then run the commands in the specified order

Also while you are in the cmd window isssue the command

path

and post back with what the reply is.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup


C:\Documents and Settings\Derek>netstop
'netstop' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

C:\Documents and Settings\Derek>w32tm/unregister
'w32tm' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

C:\Documents and Settings\Derek>w32tm/register
'w32tm' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

C:\Documents and Settings\Derek>netstart w32time
'netstart' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

C:\Documents and Settings\Derek>
have I made a mistake here?
Thank you for your help in this
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

dereknice said:
Hi ken arh ha seems i made a c**k up however have followed your
instructions with an odd error(typical) and below are all of the
results from cmd . as you can see it would appear to have been
succesful the only thing that jumped out at me was areference to cold
fusion I do not have this installed on my machine and have never used
it any ideas?
Here are all the cmd replies
many thanks for all your help


You're welcome. Glad to help, and glad it's fixed.

Your path is very odd and is nonstandard. It's especially odd that Cold
Fusion is in it if you've never had it installed. Perhaps someone else has
an idea why your path is like that.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Derek>\windows\system32
'\windows\system32' is not recognized as an internal or external
command, operable program or batch file.

C:\Documents and Settings\Derek>cd \ windows\system32.
The system cannot find the path specified.

C:\Documents and Settings\Derek>cmd
'cmd' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

C:\Documents and Settings\Derek>cmd
'cmd' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

C:\Documents and Settings\Derek> cmd
'cmd' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

C:\Documents and Settings\Derek>
C:\Documents and Settings\Derek>cd \windows\system32

C:\WINDOWS\system32>path
PATH=H:\CFusionMX7\verity\k2\_nti40\bin;C:\Program
Files\QuickTime\QTSystem\

C:\WINDOWS\system32>net stop w32time
The Windows Time service is stopping.
The Windows Time service was stopped successfully.


C:\WINDOWS\system32>w32tm/unregister
The following error occurred: Access is denied. (0x80070005)

C:\WINDOWS\system32>w32tm /unregister
W32Time successfully registered.

C:\WINDOWS\system32>w32tm /register
W32Time successfully registered.

C:\WINDOWS\system32>net start w32time
The Windows Time service is starting.
The Windows Time service was started successfully.


C:\WINDOWS\system32>

Ken Blake said:
dereknice said:
Hi thanks Ken and Milt
just to confirm I did replce bios battery first, but this made no
difference, the time loss occures all the time whilst powerd up .
Ken i followed what you said and this is what came up in my cmd
window

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Derek>net stop w32time
'net' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.


Net.exe (netstart and netstop are both wrong; no surprise that they
didn't work) and w32tm.exe are both external commands and they
should be in \windows\system32.

The first thing to do is to look in the \windows\system32 and verify
that they are there. Assuming that they are (and almost certainly
they are) you have a problem with your path, which isn't pointing
you there.

Assuming that the files are in place, the list of command I gave you
will run if you first change to the \windows\system32 folder by
issuing the command

cd \windows\system32

Then run the commands in the specified order

Also while you are in the cmd window isssue the command

path

and post back with what the reply is.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup


C:\Documents and Settings\Derek>netstop
'netstop' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

C:\Documents and Settings\Derek>w32tm/unregister
'w32tm' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

C:\Documents and Settings\Derek>w32tm/register
'w32tm' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

C:\Documents and Settings\Derek>netstart w32time
'netstart' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

C:\Documents and Settings\Derek>
have I made a mistake here?
Thank you for your help in this

:

Thanks for the correction Ken.

Milt

:

Milt wrote:

My first thought is that your "Bios Battery" is in need of
replacement. Check the literature that came with your computer to
find out the battery number and how to replace it.


No, the symptoms he describes can *not* be his battery.

Before anyone whose clock is running slow rushes out to buy a new
battery, he should first take note of whether he is losing time
while the computer is running or while it's powered off. If it's
while powered off, the problem *is* very likely the battery. But
if it's while running (his situation), it can *not* be the
battery, because the battery isn't used while the computer is
running.

If the clock loses time while running, try this:

Open a command prompt window (Start | Run | cmd) and enter the
following commands:

net stop w32time
w32tm /unregister
w32tm /register
net start w32time

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup


:

Any body help here for the last 2 weeks my clock loses 30
minutes per hour. ok it great when the wife is playing
solitaire but what has happenden? any cures have tried changing
MB battery but still the same
thanks for any help on this
 
G

Guest

Hello again Ken
It did not work after I posted last time the clock has now lost 3 hours and
6 mins have looked at the path and cannot find cold fusion on this pc.
any thanks very much for your help
regards
Derek Nice

Ken Blake said:
dereknice said:
Hi ken arh ha seems i made a c**k up however have followed your
instructions with an odd error(typical) and below are all of the
results from cmd . as you can see it would appear to have been
succesful the only thing that jumped out at me was areference to cold
fusion I do not have this installed on my machine and have never used
it any ideas?
Here are all the cmd replies
many thanks for all your help


You're welcome. Glad to help, and glad it's fixed.

Your path is very odd and is nonstandard. It's especially odd that Cold
Fusion is in it if you've never had it installed. Perhaps someone else has
an idea why your path is like that.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Derek>\windows\system32
'\windows\system32' is not recognized as an internal or external
command, operable program or batch file.

C:\Documents and Settings\Derek>cd \ windows\system32.
The system cannot find the path specified.

C:\Documents and Settings\Derek>cmd
'cmd' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

C:\Documents and Settings\Derek>cmd
'cmd' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

C:\Documents and Settings\Derek> cmd
'cmd' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

C:\Documents and Settings\Derek>
C:\Documents and Settings\Derek>cd \windows\system32

C:\WINDOWS\system32>path
PATH=H:\CFusionMX7\verity\k2\_nti40\bin;C:\Program
Files\QuickTime\QTSystem\

C:\WINDOWS\system32>net stop w32time
The Windows Time service is stopping.
The Windows Time service was stopped successfully.


C:\WINDOWS\system32>w32tm/unregister
The following error occurred: Access is denied. (0x80070005)

C:\WINDOWS\system32>w32tm /unregister
W32Time successfully registered.

C:\WINDOWS\system32>w32tm /register
W32Time successfully registered.

C:\WINDOWS\system32>net start w32time
The Windows Time service is starting.
The Windows Time service was started successfully.


C:\WINDOWS\system32>

Ken Blake said:
dereknice wrote:

Hi thanks Ken and Milt
just to confirm I did replce bios battery first, but this made no
difference, the time loss occures all the time whilst powerd up .
Ken i followed what you said and this is what came up in my cmd
window

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Derek>net stop w32time
'net' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.


Net.exe (netstart and netstop are both wrong; no surprise that they
didn't work) and w32tm.exe are both external commands and they
should be in \windows\system32.

The first thing to do is to look in the \windows\system32 and verify
that they are there. Assuming that they are (and almost certainly
they are) you have a problem with your path, which isn't pointing
you there.

Assuming that the files are in place, the list of command I gave you
will run if you first change to the \windows\system32 folder by
issuing the command

cd \windows\system32

Then run the commands in the specified order

Also while you are in the cmd window isssue the command

path

and post back with what the reply is.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup




C:\Documents and Settings\Derek>netstop
'netstop' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

C:\Documents and Settings\Derek>w32tm/unregister
'w32tm' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

C:\Documents and Settings\Derek>w32tm/register
'w32tm' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

C:\Documents and Settings\Derek>netstart w32time
'netstart' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

C:\Documents and Settings\Derek>
have I made a mistake here?
Thank you for your help in this

:

Thanks for the correction Ken.

Milt

:

Milt wrote:

My first thought is that your "Bios Battery" is in need of
replacement. Check the literature that came with your computer to
find out the battery number and how to replace it.


No, the symptoms he describes can *not* be his battery.

Before anyone whose clock is running slow rushes out to buy a new
battery, he should first take note of whether he is losing time
while the computer is running or while it's powered off. If it's
while powered off, the problem *is* very likely the battery. But
if it's while running (his situation), it can *not* be the
battery, because the battery isn't used while the computer is
running.

If the clock loses time while running, try this:

Open a command prompt window (Start | Run | cmd) and enter the
following commands:

net stop w32time
w32tm /unregister
w32tm /register
net start w32time

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup


:

Any body help here for the last 2 weeks my clock loses 30
minutes per hour. ok it great when the wife is playing
solitaire but what has happenden? any cures have tried changing
MB battery but still the same
thanks for any help on this
 
D

Donald L McDaniel

Hello again Ken
It did not work after I posted last time the clock has now lost 3 hours and
6 mins have looked at the path and cannot find cold fusion on this pc.
any thanks very much for your help
regards
Derek Nice

Normally, consistent loss of long stretches of time in Windows is a
dead giveaway for a bad CMOS battery. How long has it been since you
replaced yours? I would check that before messing with the OS.

Time loss with a fresh battery will be very small (a few milliseconds
here and there).

Follow this link to find a general way of replacing the CMOS battery.
http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000239.htm

NOTE that this might not apply to your system. See your motherboard
manual or user guide provided when you purchased your system.
Ken Blake said:
dereknice said:
Hi ken arh ha seems i made a c**k up however have followed your
instructions with an odd error(typical) and below are all of the
results from cmd . as you can see it would appear to have been
succesful the only thing that jumped out at me was areference to cold
fusion I do not have this installed on my machine and have never used
it any ideas?
Here are all the cmd replies
many thanks for all your help


You're welcome. Glad to help, and glad it's fixed.

Your path is very odd and is nonstandard. It's especially odd that Cold
Fusion is in it if you've never had it installed. Perhaps someone else has
an idea why your path is like that.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Derek>\windows\system32
'\windows\system32' is not recognized as an internal or external
command, operable program or batch file.

C:\Documents and Settings\Derek>cd \ windows\system32.
The system cannot find the path specified.

C:\Documents and Settings\Derek>cmd
'cmd' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

C:\Documents and Settings\Derek>cmd
'cmd' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

C:\Documents and Settings\Derek> cmd
'cmd' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

C:\Documents and Settings\Derek>
C:\Documents and Settings\Derek>cd \windows\system32

C:\WINDOWS\system32>path
PATH=H:\CFusionMX7\verity\k2\_nti40\bin;C:\Program
Files\QuickTime\QTSystem\

C:\WINDOWS\system32>net stop w32time
The Windows Time service is stopping.
The Windows Time service was stopped successfully.


C:\WINDOWS\system32>w32tm/unregister
The following error occurred: Access is denied. (0x80070005)

C:\WINDOWS\system32>w32tm /unregister
W32Time successfully registered.

C:\WINDOWS\system32>w32tm /register
W32Time successfully registered.

C:\WINDOWS\system32>net start w32time
The Windows Time service is starting.
The Windows Time service was started successfully.


C:\WINDOWS\system32>

:

dereknice wrote:

Hi thanks Ken and Milt
just to confirm I did replce bios battery first, but this made no
difference, the time loss occures all the time whilst powerd up .
Ken i followed what you said and this is what came up in my cmd
window

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Derek>net stop w32time
'net' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.


Net.exe (netstart and netstop are both wrong; no surprise that they
didn't work) and w32tm.exe are both external commands and they
should be in \windows\system32.

The first thing to do is to look in the \windows\system32 and verify
that they are there. Assuming that they are (and almost certainly
they are) you have a problem with your path, which isn't pointing
you there.

Assuming that the files are in place, the list of command I gave you
will run if you first change to the \windows\system32 folder by
issuing the command

cd \windows\system32

Then run the commands in the specified order

Also while you are in the cmd window isssue the command

path

and post back with what the reply is.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup




C:\Documents and Settings\Derek>netstop
'netstop' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

C:\Documents and Settings\Derek>w32tm/unregister
'w32tm' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

C:\Documents and Settings\Derek>w32tm/register
'w32tm' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

C:\Documents and Settings\Derek>netstart w32time
'netstart' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

C:\Documents and Settings\Derek>
have I made a mistake here?
Thank you for your help in this

:

Thanks for the correction Ken.

Milt

:

Milt wrote:

My first thought is that your "Bios Battery" is in need of
replacement. Check the literature that came with your computer to
find out the battery number and how to replace it.


No, the symptoms he describes can *not* be his battery.

Before anyone whose clock is running slow rushes out to buy a new
battery, he should first take note of whether he is losing time
while the computer is running or while it's powered off. If it's
while powered off, the problem *is* very likely the battery. But
if it's while running (his situation), it can *not* be the
battery, because the battery isn't used while the computer is
running.

If the clock loses time while running, try this:

Open a command prompt window (Start | Run | cmd) and enter the
following commands:

net stop w32time
w32tm /unregister
w32tm /register
net start w32time

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup


:

Any body help here for the last 2 weeks my clock loses 30
minutes per hour. ok it great when the wife is playing
solitaire but what has happenden? any cures have tried changing
MB battery but still the same
thanks for any help on this

Donald L McDaniel
Please reply to the original thread and newsgroup
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

Donald said:
Normally, consistent loss of long stretches of time in Windows is a
dead giveaway for a bad CMOS battery.



No, it's not. You've missed the early part of this thread. He began by
saying he had tried replacing the battery.

Besides, as I said earlier "Before anyone whose clock is running slow rushes
out to buy a new battery, he should first take note of whether he is losing
time while the computer is running or while it's powered off. If it's while
powered off, the problem *is* very likely the battery. But if it's while
running (his situation), it can *not* be the battery, because the battery
isn't used while the computer is running."
 

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