"Classic logon" screen in XP does not remeber the user name

G

Guest

I am using Windows XP Pro SP2. My workstation is part of a local network and
the Administrator "user name" is password protected. I use the classic view.

When I boot my computer or change users, it comes back up with a "Log on to
Windows" screen, asking for a user name and a password. In the past, the
user name of "Administrator" would be remembered, and all I would have to do
is type in the password, and continue. Now, it does not remember the user
name, and the user name and password fields are both blank.

I would like to get back to it retaining the user name last used.

The only thing I have done with my computer recently, is I tried to set up a
VPN connection, which I could not get to work. So perhaps it might be
something with that?

Thanks for any help you can give.
 
S

Steven L Umbach

There is a setting in security policy that controls that. You can open Local
Security Policy via secpol.msc and go to local policies/security options -
interactive logon: do not display last user name. If you set that to
disabled you should se the last logon name again. If you can not change that
setting that means it is being enforced by a domain level Group Policy.

Steve
 
G

Guest

Hi Steven:

Thank you very much, your suggestion worked just fine. In retrospect, I
think that I turned changed that feature myself, and didn't know that would
be the subsequent result. I was trying to configure a remote desktop
connection. Would you be willing to help me with that, since you seem to
know about the "interactive" features?

If so, here goes.

I have a home computer and connect to my office computer via "Remote
Desktop". My office computer is a server, and it manages about 6
workstations. What I was trying to do, was to connect to the office server,
and then, activate the "Remote Desktop" on the server, to get to the
workstations. I almost made it, as I get to the login screen of the
workstation, but when I try to login, it gives me the error,

"Local security policy does not allow interactive login on this machine".

So that is why I was working with the "interactive" settings in the security
policy, which I then turned off the feature to retain the last used user
login name.

If you have any ideas about how to get past my security policy not allowing
the interactice login, I would appreciate it.

Best regards

John N
 
S

Steven L Umbach

Hi John.

To access a computer via RDP you need the user right for allow logon through
Terminal Services on the computer you are trying to access. Try adding your
user account to the Remote Desktop Users group which should show as being
included for the user right for allow logon through terminal services. You
could also try adding your user account to that user right. Note that sever
user right have a corresponding "deny" user right and these override an
"allow" user right so make sure that there are no users/groups listed in
deny logon through Terminal Services that could be causing you to get that
message. When you are done configuring Local Security Policy run the command
gpupdate /force on your server.

Steve
 
G

Guest

Steven:

Once again, your suggestions worked just fine. Thanks.

As a follow up, after I logged onto the workstation from the server, and
then logged off, I went to the workstation. There was a message on it that
the workstation was locked and could only be unlocked by the administrator.
This message however, does not show up on the server when I log onto the
server from my home. So there must be a setting that I could change so my
workstation does not "lock".

Again, any help you could give would be most appreciated.

John N
 
S

Steven L Umbach

The screensaver is probably configured to lock the computer after a period
of idle time as a security measure if a user did not manually lock the
computer using Control-Alt-Delete - lock computer. Try going to Control
Panel/display - screen saver and uncheck "on resume password protect".

Steve
 
G

Guest

Hi Steven:

Thanks for your reply. Usually I get automatic notificaton of your
responses, and this time I did not, so I am sorry that there has been a few
days lapse here. I probably forgot to mark the "Notify me of replies" box
last time.

I checked the setting you mentioned, and it does not appear that is the
problem, as there was no check in that box at all. When I am at the server,
and log onto a workstation, that workstation immediately goes to a locked
login screen. During that time, you can work from the server and access that
workstation, but you cannot have a person on the server and a person on the
workstation at the same time. I assumed that you could have concurrent usage
like you can in PCAnywhere, but it does not appear to be the case with Remote
Desktop. So perhaps, there is no problem at all, but just the way it is
designed to work.

Thanks again for your help.
 
G

Guest

Steven:

I don't know if you would be wiling, but I have a question posted in the
Configuration and Management section that no one has answered. If you would
consider giving me some help on this issue, it would be appreciated. If you
don't, that's fine, just say so. Here goes:

I have decided to create a new user profile (with administrator rights) and
not use the default (Administrator) user profile, as a precaution to not mess
up my good Administrator profile.

So.....I copied the profile from the "Administrator" to the new user account
that has administrator rights. It copied just fine. When I logged in
under the new profile, I was expecting everything to look the same, and that
the installed programs would work, etc. As it turns out, only about 1/2 of
the icons transfered over, and many of the installed programs like Microsoft
Office, etc, are not installed in the new profile, although some of the icons
show up.

Any thoughts on how I could do this again? The copy took about 15 minutes,
but it did finish with no reported errors. Maybe what I am trying to
accomplish can't be done?

Thanks for any help that you can give.

John N
 
S

Steven L Umbach

John.

Yes that is the behavior to be expected when you use RDP to access a Windows
XP Pro workstation [not for W2003 Server though]. Usually if I do that I get
a notice that a user is currently logged on and I will log them off or lock
their session [can't remember which one] if I logon with RDP.

Steve
 
S

Steven L Umbach

I don't know exactly how you did it but this should work. Create [even if
just temporarily] another user account that is also an administrator and use
this account to copy the profile from the built in administrator account to
the other user account that is also an administrator that you want to use.
The go to Control Panel/system and then select advanced/user profiles -
settings. Then select copy to select the profile you want to copy and select
copy to. Browse to the profile folder you want to copy to under documents
and settings. Select the folder with the user name and select OK. Under
permitted to use select the user name that is going to use that profile.
Then select OK and it should copy everything over to the new user profile
selected.

Steve
 
G

Guest

Steven,

Thanks again for all your help, I think I understand the limitations of
remote desktop better now.

Best regards,

John

--
John N


Steven L Umbach said:
John.

Yes that is the behavior to be expected when you use RDP to access a Windows
XP Pro workstation [not for W2003 Server though]. Usually if I do that I get
a notice that a user is currently logged on and I will log them off or lock
their session [can't remember which one] if I logon with RDP.

Steve
 
G

Guest

Steven:

The way you described it below, is just how I did it. That is why I was
surprised when I logged onto the new user profile, and it was not the same as
my built-in Administrator account. I even did it again after it didn't work
the first time.

Any other thoughts?

Thanks
--
John N


Steven L Umbach said:
I don't know exactly how you did it but this should work. Create [even if
just temporarily] another user account that is also an administrator and use
this account to copy the profile from the built in administrator account to
the other user account that is also an administrator that you want to use.
The go to Control Panel/system and then select advanced/user profiles -
settings. Then select copy to select the profile you want to copy and select
copy to. Browse to the profile folder you want to copy to under documents
and settings. Select the folder with the user name and select OK. Under
permitted to use select the user name that is going to use that profile.
Then select OK and it should copy everything over to the new user profile
selected.

Steve
 
S

Steven L Umbach

Hmm. Compare the contents of the desktop and start menu folders between the
two user profiles to see if they are the same. If not for some reason you
can copy missing shortcuts to the new profile. Another thing to try is to
use the File and Settings Transfer Wizard. Go to accessories/system tools to
find it. You should be able to store your current files and settings to a
file on your hard disk and then import it into the new profile from that
file.

Steve

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/deploy/mgrtfset.mspx
--- File and Settings Transfer Wizard

John N said:
Steven:

The way you described it below, is just how I did it. That is why I was
surprised when I logged onto the new user profile, and it was not the same
as
my built-in Administrator account. I even did it again after it didn't
work
the first time.

Any other thoughts?

Thanks
--
John N


Steven L Umbach said:
I don't know exactly how you did it but this should work. Create [even if
just temporarily] another user account that is also an administrator and
use
this account to copy the profile from the built in administrator account
to
the other user account that is also an administrator that you want to
use.
The go to Control Panel/system and then select advanced/user profiles -
settings. Then select copy to select the profile you want to copy and
select
copy to. Browse to the profile folder you want to copy to under documents
and settings. Select the folder with the user name and select OK. Under
permitted to use select the user name that is going to use that profile.
Then select OK and it should copy everything over to the new user profile
selected.

Steve


John N said:
Steven:

I don't know if you would be wiling, but I have a question posted in
the
Configuration and Management section that no one has answered. If you
would
consider giving me some help on this issue, it would be appreciated.
If
you
don't, that's fine, just say so. Here goes:

I have decided to create a new user profile (with administrator rights)
and
not use the default (Administrator) user profile, as a precaution to
not
mess
up my good Administrator profile.

So.....I copied the profile from the "Administrator" to the new user
account
that has administrator rights. It copied just fine. When I logged in
under the new profile, I was expecting everything to look the same, and
that
the installed programs would work, etc. As it turns out, only about
1/2
of
the icons transfered over, and many of the installed programs like
Microsoft
Office, etc, are not installed in the new profile, although some of the
icons
show up.

Any thoughts on how I could do this again? The copy took about 15
minutes,
but it did finish with no reported errors. Maybe what I am trying to
accomplish can't be done?

Thanks for any help that you can give.

John N

--
John N


:

Hi Steven:

Thanks for your reply. Usually I get automatic notificaton of your
responses, and this time I did not, so I am sorry that there has been
a
few
days lapse here. I probably forgot to mark the "Notify me of replies"
box
last time.

I checked the setting you mentioned, and it does not appear that is
the
problem, as there was no check in that box at all. When I am at the
server,
and log onto a workstation, that workstation immediately goes to a
locked
login screen. During that time, you can work from the server and
access
that
workstation, but you cannot have a person on the server and a person
on
the
workstation at the same time. I assumed that you could have
concurrent
usage
like you can in PCAnywhere, but it does not appear to be the case with
Remote
Desktop. So perhaps, there is no problem at all, but just the way it
is
designed to work.

Thanks again for your help.



--
John N


:

The screensaver is probably configured to lock the computer after a
period
of idle time as a security measure if a user did not manually lock
the
computer using Control-Alt-Delete - lock computer. Try going to
Control
Panel/display - screen saver and uncheck "on resume password
protect".

Steve


Steven:

Once again, your suggestions worked just fine. Thanks.

As a follow up, after I logged onto the workstation from the
server,
and
then logged off, I went to the workstation. There was a message
on
it
that
the workstation was locked and could only be unlocked by the
administrator.
This message however, does not show up on the server when I log
onto
the
server from my home. So there must be a setting that I could
change
so my
workstation does not "lock".

Again, any help you could give would be most appreciated.

John N
--
John N


:

Hi John.

To access a computer via RDP you need the user right for allow
logon
through
Terminal Services on the computer you are trying to access. Try
adding
your
user account to the Remote Desktop Users group which should show
as
being
included for the user right for allow logon through terminal
services.
You
could also try adding your user account to that user right. Note
that
sever
user right have a corresponding "deny" user right and these
override
an
"allow" user right so make sure that there are no users/groups
listed in
deny logon through Terminal Services that could be causing you to
get
that
message. When you are done configuring Local Security Policy run
the
command
gpupdate /force on your server.

Steve


Hi Steven:

Thank you very much, your suggestion worked just fine. In
retrospect,
I
think that I turned changed that feature myself, and didn't
know
that
would
be the subsequent result. I was trying to configure a remote
desktop
connection. Would you be willing to help me with that, since
you
seem
to
know about the "interactive" features?

If so, here goes.

I have a home computer and connect to my office computer via
"Remote
Desktop". My office computer is a server, and it manages about
6
workstations. What I was trying to do, was to connect to the
office
server,
and then, activate the "Remote Desktop" on the server, to get
to
the
workstations. I almost made it, as I get to the login screen
of
the
workstation, but when I try to login, it gives me the error,

"Local security policy does not allow interactive login on this
machine".

So that is why I was working with the "interactive" settings in
the
security
policy, which I then turned off the feature to retain the last
used
user
login name.

If you have any ideas about how to get past my security policy
not
allowing
the interactice login, I would appreciate it.

Best regards

John N
--
John N


:

There is a setting in security policy that controls that. You
can
open
Local
Security Policy via secpol.msc and go to local
policies/security
options -
interactive logon: do not display last user name. If you set
that
to
disabled you should se the last logon name again. If you can
not
change
that
setting that means it is being enforced by a domain level
Group
Policy.

Steve


I am using Windows XP Pro SP2. My workstation is part of a
local
network
and
the Administrator "user name" is password protected. I use
the
classic
view.

When I boot my computer or change users, it comes back up
with
a
"Log
on
to
Windows" screen, asking for a user name and a password. In
the
past,
the
user name of "Administrator" would be remembered, and all I
would
have
to
do
is type in the password, and continue. Now, it does not
remember
the
user
name, and the user name and password fields are both blank.

I would like to get back to it retaining the user name last
used.

The only thing I have done with my computer recently, is I
tried to
set
up
a
VPN connection, which I could not get to work. So perhaps
it
might
be
something with that?

Thanks for any help you can give.
 
G

Guest

Steven:

Thanks for your suggestions, I will try them when I get to work today, and
let you know.

I have one last issue I am working on, which is posted in the "Setup and
Maint" area, but no one has responded to it. If you are willing, I will put
my posting below if you want to take a shot at it.

Best regards,

John
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I recently upgraded a workstation from Windows 2000 Pro to Windows XP Pro. I
got a spontaneous "Blue screen" shortly after the upgrade, and wanted to have
the unit boot off of the CD so that I could do a "chkdsk /r" to help the
situation. The problem is that when I boot off of the CD, it does not come
up with the normal screen that allows me to pick my operating sytem, than
then go to a recovery counsel. Rather, it thinks that the upgarde from
Windows 2000 to XP is still happening.

After several attempts, I just went ahead and let the sytem go through
another upgrade like it wanted to do. I had to reconfigure some things
again, like I did with the first upgrade. However, when I tried to boot from
the CD again, it came up with the same message about wanting to keep
upgrading.

There must be some residual file or command that thinks the upgrade did not
complete, but it did. Other than just wanting to do the "chkdsk /r" for
preventative reasons, the workstation works quite well after the upgrade.

Any thoughts on how to get the workstation to boot off of the Windows CD and
let me go to a recovery counsel, would be most appreciated.
--
John N



Steven L Umbach said:
Hmm. Compare the contents of the desktop and start menu folders between the
two user profiles to see if they are the same. If not for some reason you
can copy missing shortcuts to the new profile. Another thing to try is to
use the File and Settings Transfer Wizard. Go to accessories/system tools to
find it. You should be able to store your current files and settings to a
file on your hard disk and then import it into the new profile from that
file.

Steve

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/deploy/mgrtfset.mspx
--- File and Settings Transfer Wizard

John N said:
Steven:

The way you described it below, is just how I did it. That is why I was
surprised when I logged onto the new user profile, and it was not the same
as
my built-in Administrator account. I even did it again after it didn't
work
the first time.

Any other thoughts?

Thanks
--
John N


Steven L Umbach said:
I don't know exactly how you did it but this should work. Create [even if
just temporarily] another user account that is also an administrator and
use
this account to copy the profile from the built in administrator account
to
the other user account that is also an administrator that you want to
use.
The go to Control Panel/system and then select advanced/user profiles -
settings. Then select copy to select the profile you want to copy and
select
copy to. Browse to the profile folder you want to copy to under documents
and settings. Select the folder with the user name and select OK. Under
permitted to use select the user name that is going to use that profile.
Then select OK and it should copy everything over to the new user profile
selected.

Steve


Steven:

I don't know if you would be wiling, but I have a question posted in
the
Configuration and Management section that no one has answered. If you
would
consider giving me some help on this issue, it would be appreciated.
If
you
don't, that's fine, just say so. Here goes:

I have decided to create a new user profile (with administrator rights)
and
not use the default (Administrator) user profile, as a precaution to
not
mess
up my good Administrator profile.

So.....I copied the profile from the "Administrator" to the new user
account
that has administrator rights. It copied just fine. When I logged in
under the new profile, I was expecting everything to look the same, and
that
the installed programs would work, etc. As it turns out, only about
1/2
of
the icons transfered over, and many of the installed programs like
Microsoft
Office, etc, are not installed in the new profile, although some of the
icons
show up.

Any thoughts on how I could do this again? The copy took about 15
minutes,
but it did finish with no reported errors. Maybe what I am trying to
accomplish can't be done?

Thanks for any help that you can give.

John N

--
John N


:

Hi Steven:

Thanks for your reply. Usually I get automatic notificaton of your
responses, and this time I did not, so I am sorry that there has been
a
few
days lapse here. I probably forgot to mark the "Notify me of replies"
box
last time.

I checked the setting you mentioned, and it does not appear that is
the
problem, as there was no check in that box at all. When I am at the
server,
and log onto a workstation, that workstation immediately goes to a
locked
login screen. During that time, you can work from the server and
access
that
workstation, but you cannot have a person on the server and a person
on
the
workstation at the same time. I assumed that you could have
concurrent
usage
like you can in PCAnywhere, but it does not appear to be the case with
Remote
Desktop. So perhaps, there is no problem at all, but just the way it
is
designed to work.

Thanks again for your help.



--
John N


:

The screensaver is probably configured to lock the computer after a
period
of idle time as a security measure if a user did not manually lock
the
computer using Control-Alt-Delete - lock computer. Try going to
Control
Panel/display - screen saver and uncheck "on resume password
protect".

Steve


Steven:

Once again, your suggestions worked just fine. Thanks.

As a follow up, after I logged onto the workstation from the
server,
and
then logged off, I went to the workstation. There was a message
on
it
that
the workstation was locked and could only be unlocked by the
administrator.
This message however, does not show up on the server when I log
onto
the
server from my home. So there must be a setting that I could
change
so my
workstation does not "lock".

Again, any help you could give would be most appreciated.

John N
--
John N


:

Hi John.

To access a computer via RDP you need the user right for allow
logon
through
Terminal Services on the computer you are trying to access. Try
adding
your
user account to the Remote Desktop Users group which should show
as
being
included for the user right for allow logon through terminal
services.
You
could also try adding your user account to that user right. Note
that
sever
user right have a corresponding "deny" user right and these
override
an
"allow" user right so make sure that there are no users/groups
listed in
deny logon through Terminal Services that could be causing you to
get
that
message. When you are done configuring Local Security Policy run
the
command
gpupdate /force on your server.

Steve


Hi Steven:

Thank you very much, your suggestion worked just fine. In
retrospect,
I
think that I turned changed that feature myself, and didn't
know
that
would
be the subsequent result. I was trying to configure a remote
desktop
connection. Would you be willing to help me with that, since
you
seem
to
know about the "interactive" features?

If so, here goes.

I have a home computer and connect to my office computer via
"Remote
Desktop". My office computer is a server, and it manages about
6
workstations. What I was trying to do, was to connect to the
office
server,
and then, activate the "Remote Desktop" on the server, to get
to
the
workstations. I almost made it, as I get to the login screen
of
the
workstation, but when I try to login, it gives me the error,

"Local security policy does not allow interactive login on this
machine".

So that is why I was working with the "interactive" settings in
the
security
policy, which I then turned off the feature to retain the last
used
user
login name.

If you have any ideas about how to get past my security policy
not
allowing
the interactice login, I would appreciate it.

Best regards

John N
--
John N


:

There is a setting in security policy that controls that. You
can
open
Local
Security Policy via secpol.msc and go to local
policies/security
options -
interactive logon: do not display last user name. If you set
that
to
disabled you should se the last logon name again. If you can
not
change
that
setting that means it is being enforced by a domain level
Group
Policy.

Steve
 
S

Steven L Umbach

John.

Offhand I don't know why the computer seems to keep thinking why it is in
upgrade mode and I have seen that myself on one of my computers that worked
perfectly fine other than that so I did not pursue it any further. You also
can run Checkdisk without using RC if you want to. Enter chkdsk /? to see
the available options. You also could try installing RC on your computer so
that you do not need to boot from the install cdrom to use it as per
instructions in the link below.

Steve

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;307654

To install the Recovery Console, follow these steps: 1. Insert the Windows
XP CD into the CD-ROM drive.
2. Click Start, and then click Run.
3. In the Open box, type d:\i386\winnt32.exe /cmdcons where d is the
drive letter for the CD-ROM drive.
4. A Windows Setup Dialog Box appears. The Windows Setup Dialog Box
describes the Recovery Console option. To confirm the installation, click
Yes.
5. Restart the computer. The next time that you start your computer,
"Microsoft Windows Recovery Console" appears on the startup menu.



John N said:
Steven:

Thanks for your suggestions, I will try them when I get to work today, and
let you know.

I have one last issue I am working on, which is posted in the "Setup and
Maint" area, but no one has responded to it. If you are willing, I will
put
my posting below if you want to take a shot at it.

Best regards,

John N
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I recently upgraded a workstation from Windows 2000 Pro to Windows XP Pro.
I
got a spontaneous "Blue screen" shortly after the upgrade, and wanted to
have
the unit boot off of the CD so that I could do a "chkdsk /r" to help the
situation. The problem is that when I boot off of the CD, it does not
come
up with the normal screen that allows me to pick my operating sytem, than
then go to a recovery counsel. Rather, it thinks that the upgarde from
Windows 2000 to XP is still happening.

After several attempts, I just went ahead and let the sytem go through
another upgrade like it wanted to do. I had to reconfigure some things
again, like I did with the first upgrade. However, when I tried to boot
from
the CD again, it came up with the same message about wanting to keep
upgrading.

There must be some residual file or command that thinks the upgrade did
not
complete, but it did. Other than just wanting to do the "chkdsk /r" for
preventative reasons, the workstation works quite well after the upgrade.

Any thoughts on how to get the workstation to boot off of the Windows CD
and
let me go to a recovery counsel, would be most appreciated.
--
John N



Steven L Umbach said:
Hmm. Compare the contents of the desktop and start menu folders between
the
two user profiles to see if they are the same. If not for some reason you
can copy missing shortcuts to the new profile. Another thing to try is to
use the File and Settings Transfer Wizard. Go to accessories/system tools
to
find it. You should be able to store your current files and settings to a
file on your hard disk and then import it into the new profile from that
file.

Steve

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/deploy/mgrtfset.mspx
--- File and Settings Transfer Wizard

John N said:
Steven:

The way you described it below, is just how I did it. That is why I
was
surprised when I logged onto the new user profile, and it was not the
same
as
my built-in Administrator account. I even did it again after it didn't
work
the first time.

Any other thoughts?

Thanks
--
John N


:

I don't know exactly how you did it but this should work. Create [even
if
just temporarily] another user account that is also an administrator
and
use
this account to copy the profile from the built in administrator
account
to
the other user account that is also an administrator that you want to
use.
The go to Control Panel/system and then select advanced/user
profiles -
settings. Then select copy to select the profile you want to copy and
select
copy to. Browse to the profile folder you want to copy to under
documents
and settings. Select the folder with the user name and select OK.
Under
permitted to use select the user name that is going to use that
profile.
Then select OK and it should copy everything over to the new user
profile
selected.

Steve


Steven:

I don't know if you would be wiling, but I have a question posted in
the
Configuration and Management section that no one has answered. If
you
would
consider giving me some help on this issue, it would be appreciated.
If
you
don't, that's fine, just say so. Here goes:

I have decided to create a new user profile (with administrator
rights)
and
not use the default (Administrator) user profile, as a precaution to
not
mess
up my good Administrator profile.

So.....I copied the profile from the "Administrator" to the new user
account
that has administrator rights. It copied just fine. When I logged
in
under the new profile, I was expecting everything to look the same,
and
that
the installed programs would work, etc. As it turns out, only about
1/2
of
the icons transfered over, and many of the installed programs like
Microsoft
Office, etc, are not installed in the new profile, although some of
the
icons
show up.

Any thoughts on how I could do this again? The copy took about 15
minutes,
but it did finish with no reported errors. Maybe what I am trying
to
accomplish can't be done?

Thanks for any help that you can give.

John N

--
John N


:

Hi Steven:

Thanks for your reply. Usually I get automatic notificaton of your
responses, and this time I did not, so I am sorry that there has
been
a
few
days lapse here. I probably forgot to mark the "Notify me of
replies"
box
last time.

I checked the setting you mentioned, and it does not appear that is
the
problem, as there was no check in that box at all. When I am at
the
server,
and log onto a workstation, that workstation immediately goes to a
locked
login screen. During that time, you can work from the server and
access
that
workstation, but you cannot have a person on the server and a
person
on
the
workstation at the same time. I assumed that you could have
concurrent
usage
like you can in PCAnywhere, but it does not appear to be the case
with
Remote
Desktop. So perhaps, there is no problem at all, but just the way
it
is
designed to work.

Thanks again for your help.



--
John N


:

The screensaver is probably configured to lock the computer after
a
period
of idle time as a security measure if a user did not manually
lock
the
computer using Control-Alt-Delete - lock computer. Try going to
Control
Panel/display - screen saver and uncheck "on resume password
protect".

Steve


Steven:

Once again, your suggestions worked just fine. Thanks.

As a follow up, after I logged onto the workstation from the
server,
and
then logged off, I went to the workstation. There was a
message
on
it
that
the workstation was locked and could only be unlocked by the
administrator.
This message however, does not show up on the server when I log
onto
the
server from my home. So there must be a setting that I could
change
so my
workstation does not "lock".

Again, any help you could give would be most appreciated.

John N
--
John N


:

Hi John.

To access a computer via RDP you need the user right for allow
logon
through
Terminal Services on the computer you are trying to access.
Try
adding
your
user account to the Remote Desktop Users group which should
show
as
being
included for the user right for allow logon through terminal
services.
You
could also try adding your user account to that user right.
Note
that
sever
user right have a corresponding "deny" user right and these
override
an
"allow" user right so make sure that there are no users/groups
listed in
deny logon through Terminal Services that could be causing you
to
get
that
message. When you are done configuring Local Security Policy
run
the
command
gpupdate /force on your server.

Steve


Hi Steven:

Thank you very much, your suggestion worked just fine. In
retrospect,
I
think that I turned changed that feature myself, and didn't
know
that
would
be the subsequent result. I was trying to configure a
remote
desktop
connection. Would you be willing to help me with that,
since
you
seem
to
know about the "interactive" features?

If so, here goes.

I have a home computer and connect to my office computer via
"Remote
Desktop". My office computer is a server, and it manages
about
6
workstations. What I was trying to do, was to connect to
the
office
server,
and then, activate the "Remote Desktop" on the server, to
get
to
the
workstations. I almost made it, as I get to the login
screen
of
the
workstation, but when I try to login, it gives me the error,

"Local security policy does not allow interactive login on
this
machine".

So that is why I was working with the "interactive" settings
in
the
security
policy, which I then turned off the feature to retain the
last
used
user
login name.

If you have any ideas about how to get past my security
policy
not
allowing
the interactice login, I would appreciate it.

Best regards

John N
--
John N


:

There is a setting in security policy that controls that.
You
can
open
Local
Security Policy via secpol.msc and go to local
policies/security
options -
interactive logon: do not display last user name. If you
set
that
to
disabled you should se the last logon name again. If you
can
not
change
that
setting that means it is being enforced by a domain level
Group
Policy.

Steve
 
G

Guest

Steven:

Again, thanks for your suggestions. I did have to copy the shortcuts
specifically from one profile to the other, and I also used the Transfer
Files and Settings Wizard. I assume that the Wizard for the most part does
the same thing as copying the profile in from the users menu? Anyway, this
time using the Wizard it seemed to work. I compared the desktop and
programs, and about 98-99% was transfered with these methods.

I did however, eat up about 2 gig of hard drive space to accomplish this.
Oh well.

Best regards,

John
--
John N


Steven L Umbach said:
Hmm. Compare the contents of the desktop and start menu folders between the
two user profiles to see if they are the same. If not for some reason you
can copy missing shortcuts to the new profile. Another thing to try is to
use the File and Settings Transfer Wizard. Go to accessories/system tools to
find it. You should be able to store your current files and settings to a
file on your hard disk and then import it into the new profile from that
file.

Steve

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/deploy/mgrtfset.mspx
--- File and Settings Transfer Wizard

John N said:
Steven:

The way you described it below, is just how I did it. That is why I was
surprised when I logged onto the new user profile, and it was not the same
as
my built-in Administrator account. I even did it again after it didn't
work
the first time.

Any other thoughts?

Thanks
--
John N


Steven L Umbach said:
I don't know exactly how you did it but this should work. Create [even if
just temporarily] another user account that is also an administrator and
use
this account to copy the profile from the built in administrator account
to
the other user account that is also an administrator that you want to
use.
The go to Control Panel/system and then select advanced/user profiles -
settings. Then select copy to select the profile you want to copy and
select
copy to. Browse to the profile folder you want to copy to under documents
and settings. Select the folder with the user name and select OK. Under
permitted to use select the user name that is going to use that profile.
Then select OK and it should copy everything over to the new user profile
selected.

Steve


Steven:

I don't know if you would be wiling, but I have a question posted in
the
Configuration and Management section that no one has answered. If you
would
consider giving me some help on this issue, it would be appreciated.
If
you
don't, that's fine, just say so. Here goes:

I have decided to create a new user profile (with administrator rights)
and
not use the default (Administrator) user profile, as a precaution to
not
mess
up my good Administrator profile.

So.....I copied the profile from the "Administrator" to the new user
account
that has administrator rights. It copied just fine. When I logged in
under the new profile, I was expecting everything to look the same, and
that
the installed programs would work, etc. As it turns out, only about
1/2
of
the icons transfered over, and many of the installed programs like
Microsoft
Office, etc, are not installed in the new profile, although some of the
icons
show up.

Any thoughts on how I could do this again? The copy took about 15
minutes,
but it did finish with no reported errors. Maybe what I am trying to
accomplish can't be done?

Thanks for any help that you can give.

John N

--
John N


:

Hi Steven:

Thanks for your reply. Usually I get automatic notificaton of your
responses, and this time I did not, so I am sorry that there has been
a
few
days lapse here. I probably forgot to mark the "Notify me of replies"
box
last time.

I checked the setting you mentioned, and it does not appear that is
the
problem, as there was no check in that box at all. When I am at the
server,
and log onto a workstation, that workstation immediately goes to a
locked
login screen. During that time, you can work from the server and
access
that
workstation, but you cannot have a person on the server and a person
on
the
workstation at the same time. I assumed that you could have
concurrent
usage
like you can in PCAnywhere, but it does not appear to be the case with
Remote
Desktop. So perhaps, there is no problem at all, but just the way it
is
designed to work.

Thanks again for your help.



--
John N


:

The screensaver is probably configured to lock the computer after a
period
of idle time as a security measure if a user did not manually lock
the
computer using Control-Alt-Delete - lock computer. Try going to
Control
Panel/display - screen saver and uncheck "on resume password
protect".

Steve


Steven:

Once again, your suggestions worked just fine. Thanks.

As a follow up, after I logged onto the workstation from the
server,
and
then logged off, I went to the workstation. There was a message
on
it
that
the workstation was locked and could only be unlocked by the
administrator.
This message however, does not show up on the server when I log
onto
the
server from my home. So there must be a setting that I could
change
so my
workstation does not "lock".

Again, any help you could give would be most appreciated.

John N
--
John N


:

Hi John.

To access a computer via RDP you need the user right for allow
logon
through
Terminal Services on the computer you are trying to access. Try
adding
your
user account to the Remote Desktop Users group which should show
as
being
included for the user right for allow logon through terminal
services.
You
could also try adding your user account to that user right. Note
that
sever
user right have a corresponding "deny" user right and these
override
an
"allow" user right so make sure that there are no users/groups
listed in
deny logon through Terminal Services that could be causing you to
get
that
message. When you are done configuring Local Security Policy run
the
command
gpupdate /force on your server.

Steve


Hi Steven:

Thank you very much, your suggestion worked just fine. In
retrospect,
I
think that I turned changed that feature myself, and didn't
know
that
would
be the subsequent result. I was trying to configure a remote
desktop
connection. Would you be willing to help me with that, since
you
seem
to
know about the "interactive" features?

If so, here goes.

I have a home computer and connect to my office computer via
"Remote
Desktop". My office computer is a server, and it manages about
6
workstations. What I was trying to do, was to connect to the
office
server,
and then, activate the "Remote Desktop" on the server, to get
to
the
workstations. I almost made it, as I get to the login screen
of
the
workstation, but when I try to login, it gives me the error,

"Local security policy does not allow interactive login on this
machine".

So that is why I was working with the "interactive" settings in
the
security
policy, which I then turned off the feature to retain the last
used
user
login name.

If you have any ideas about how to get past my security policy
not
allowing
the interactice login, I would appreciate it.

Best regards

John N
--
John N


:

There is a setting in security policy that controls that. You
can
open
Local
Security Policy via secpol.msc and go to local
policies/security
options -
interactive logon: do not display last user name. If you set
that
to
disabled you should se the last logon name again. If you can
not
change
that
setting that means it is being enforced by a domain level
Group
Policy.

Steve
 
G

Guest

Thanks for the link and the information. I think the easiest thing for me to
do, would be to install RC. I will attempt that in the next few days and
let you know how it comes out.

Best regards,

John N

----------------------------------------
Steven L Umbach said:
John.

Offhand I don't know why the computer seems to keep thinking why it is in
upgrade mode and I have seen that myself on one of my computers that worked
perfectly fine other than that so I did not pursue it any further. You also
can run Checkdisk without using RC if you want to. Enter chkdsk /? to see
the available options. You also could try installing RC on your computer so
that you do not need to boot from the install cdrom to use it as per
instructions in the link below.

Steve

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;307654

To install the Recovery Console, follow these steps: 1. Insert the Windows
XP CD into the CD-ROM drive.
2. Click Start, and then click Run.
3. In the Open box, type d:\i386\winnt32.exe /cmdcons where d is the
drive letter for the CD-ROM drive.
4. A Windows Setup Dialog Box appears. The Windows Setup Dialog Box
describes the Recovery Console option. To confirm the installation, click
Yes.
5. Restart the computer. The next time that you start your computer,
"Microsoft Windows Recovery Console" appears on the startup menu.



John N said:
Steven:

Thanks for your suggestions, I will try them when I get to work today, and
let you know.

I have one last issue I am working on, which is posted in the "Setup and
Maint" area, but no one has responded to it. If you are willing, I will
put
my posting below if you want to take a shot at it.

Best regards,

John N
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I recently upgraded a workstation from Windows 2000 Pro to Windows XP Pro.
I
got a spontaneous "Blue screen" shortly after the upgrade, and wanted to
have
the unit boot off of the CD so that I could do a "chkdsk /r" to help the
situation. The problem is that when I boot off of the CD, it does not
come
up with the normal screen that allows me to pick my operating sytem, than
then go to a recovery counsel. Rather, it thinks that the upgarde from
Windows 2000 to XP is still happening.

After several attempts, I just went ahead and let the sytem go through
another upgrade like it wanted to do. I had to reconfigure some things
again, like I did with the first upgrade. However, when I tried to boot
from
the CD again, it came up with the same message about wanting to keep
upgrading.

There must be some residual file or command that thinks the upgrade did
not
complete, but it did. Other than just wanting to do the "chkdsk /r" for
preventative reasons, the workstation works quite well after the upgrade.

Any thoughts on how to get the workstation to boot off of the Windows CD
and
let me go to a recovery counsel, would be most appreciated.
--
John N



Steven L Umbach said:
Hmm. Compare the contents of the desktop and start menu folders between
the
two user profiles to see if they are the same. If not for some reason you
can copy missing shortcuts to the new profile. Another thing to try is to
use the File and Settings Transfer Wizard. Go to accessories/system tools
to
find it. You should be able to store your current files and settings to a
file on your hard disk and then import it into the new profile from that
file.

Steve

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/deploy/mgrtfset.mspx
--- File and Settings Transfer Wizard

Steven:

The way you described it below, is just how I did it. That is why I
was
surprised when I logged onto the new user profile, and it was not the
same
as
my built-in Administrator account. I even did it again after it didn't
work
the first time.

Any other thoughts?

Thanks
--
John N


:

I don't know exactly how you did it but this should work. Create [even
if
just temporarily] another user account that is also an administrator
and
use
this account to copy the profile from the built in administrator
account
to
the other user account that is also an administrator that you want to
use.
The go to Control Panel/system and then select advanced/user
profiles -
settings. Then select copy to select the profile you want to copy and
select
copy to. Browse to the profile folder you want to copy to under
documents
and settings. Select the folder with the user name and select OK.
Under
permitted to use select the user name that is going to use that
profile.
Then select OK and it should copy everything over to the new user
profile
selected.

Steve


Steven:

I don't know if you would be wiling, but I have a question posted in
the
Configuration and Management section that no one has answered. If
you
would
consider giving me some help on this issue, it would be appreciated.
If
you
don't, that's fine, just say so. Here goes:

I have decided to create a new user profile (with administrator
rights)
and
not use the default (Administrator) user profile, as a precaution to
not
mess
up my good Administrator profile.

So.....I copied the profile from the "Administrator" to the new user
account
that has administrator rights. It copied just fine. When I logged
in
under the new profile, I was expecting everything to look the same,
and
that
the installed programs would work, etc. As it turns out, only about
1/2
of
the icons transfered over, and many of the installed programs like
Microsoft
Office, etc, are not installed in the new profile, although some of
the
icons
show up.

Any thoughts on how I could do this again? The copy took about 15
minutes,
but it did finish with no reported errors. Maybe what I am trying
to
accomplish can't be done?

Thanks for any help that you can give.

John N

--
John N


:

Hi Steven:

Thanks for your reply. Usually I get automatic notificaton of your
responses, and this time I did not, so I am sorry that there has
been
a
few
days lapse here. I probably forgot to mark the "Notify me of
replies"
box
last time.

I checked the setting you mentioned, and it does not appear that is
the
problem, as there was no check in that box at all. When I am at
the
server,
and log onto a workstation, that workstation immediately goes to a
locked
login screen. During that time, you can work from the server and
access
that
workstation, but you cannot have a person on the server and a
person
on
the
workstation at the same time. I assumed that you could have
concurrent
usage
like you can in PCAnywhere, but it does not appear to be the case
with
Remote
Desktop. So perhaps, there is no problem at all, but just the way
it
is
designed to work.

Thanks again for your help.



--
John N


:

The screensaver is probably configured to lock the computer after
a
period
of idle time as a security measure if a user did not manually
lock
the
computer using Control-Alt-Delete - lock computer. Try going to
Control
Panel/display - screen saver and uncheck "on resume password
protect".

Steve


Steven:

Once again, your suggestions worked just fine. Thanks.

As a follow up, after I logged onto the workstation from the
server,
and
then logged off, I went to the workstation. There was a
message
on
it
that
the workstation was locked and could only be unlocked by the
administrator.
This message however, does not show up on the server when I log
onto
the
server from my home. So there must be a setting that I could
change
so my
workstation does not "lock".

Again, any help you could give would be most appreciated.

John N
--
John N


:

Hi John.

To access a computer via RDP you need the user right for allow
logon
through
Terminal Services on the computer you are trying to access.
Try
adding
your
user account to the Remote Desktop Users group which should
show
 
S

Steven L Umbach

Sounds like you made some good progress. If you used the File and Settings
Transfer Wizard you can delete the file it created that you used to the
transfer from one profile to another. Other than that most likely the space
taken up is files in your My Documents folder which you may not want to have
in both profiles and if that is the case delete those files from the My
Documents folder that you don't need to be redundant after you make sure
that you can access them fine in the profile you want to use them in. You
can check the subfolders under your user profile to find out the size of
each folder using Windows Explorer.

Steve


John N said:
Steven:

Again, thanks for your suggestions. I did have to copy the shortcuts
specifically from one profile to the other, and I also used the Transfer
Files and Settings Wizard. I assume that the Wizard for the most part
does
the same thing as copying the profile in from the users menu? Anyway,
this
time using the Wizard it seemed to work. I compared the desktop and
programs, and about 98-99% was transfered with these methods.

I did however, eat up about 2 gig of hard drive space to accomplish this.
Oh well.

Best regards,

John
--
John N


Steven L Umbach said:
Hmm. Compare the contents of the desktop and start menu folders between
the
two user profiles to see if they are the same. If not for some reason you
can copy missing shortcuts to the new profile. Another thing to try is to
use the File and Settings Transfer Wizard. Go to accessories/system tools
to
find it. You should be able to store your current files and settings to a
file on your hard disk and then import it into the new profile from that
file.

Steve

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/deploy/mgrtfset.mspx
--- File and Settings Transfer Wizard

John N said:
Steven:

The way you described it below, is just how I did it. That is why I
was
surprised when I logged onto the new user profile, and it was not the
same
as
my built-in Administrator account. I even did it again after it didn't
work
the first time.

Any other thoughts?

Thanks
--
John N


:

I don't know exactly how you did it but this should work. Create [even
if
just temporarily] another user account that is also an administrator
and
use
this account to copy the profile from the built in administrator
account
to
the other user account that is also an administrator that you want to
use.
The go to Control Panel/system and then select advanced/user
profiles -
settings. Then select copy to select the profile you want to copy and
select
copy to. Browse to the profile folder you want to copy to under
documents
and settings. Select the folder with the user name and select OK.
Under
permitted to use select the user name that is going to use that
profile.
Then select OK and it should copy everything over to the new user
profile
selected.

Steve


Steven:

I don't know if you would be wiling, but I have a question posted in
the
Configuration and Management section that no one has answered. If
you
would
consider giving me some help on this issue, it would be appreciated.
If
you
don't, that's fine, just say so. Here goes:

I have decided to create a new user profile (with administrator
rights)
and
not use the default (Administrator) user profile, as a precaution to
not
mess
up my good Administrator profile.

So.....I copied the profile from the "Administrator" to the new user
account
that has administrator rights. It copied just fine. When I logged
in
under the new profile, I was expecting everything to look the same,
and
that
the installed programs would work, etc. As it turns out, only about
1/2
of
the icons transfered over, and many of the installed programs like
Microsoft
Office, etc, are not installed in the new profile, although some of
the
icons
show up.

Any thoughts on how I could do this again? The copy took about 15
minutes,
but it did finish with no reported errors. Maybe what I am trying
to
accomplish can't be done?

Thanks for any help that you can give.

John N

--
John N


:

Hi Steven:

Thanks for your reply. Usually I get automatic notificaton of your
responses, and this time I did not, so I am sorry that there has
been
a
few
days lapse here. I probably forgot to mark the "Notify me of
replies"
box
last time.

I checked the setting you mentioned, and it does not appear that is
the
problem, as there was no check in that box at all. When I am at
the
server,
and log onto a workstation, that workstation immediately goes to a
locked
login screen. During that time, you can work from the server and
access
that
workstation, but you cannot have a person on the server and a
person
on
the
workstation at the same time. I assumed that you could have
concurrent
usage
like you can in PCAnywhere, but it does not appear to be the case
with
Remote
Desktop. So perhaps, there is no problem at all, but just the way
it
is
designed to work.

Thanks again for your help.



--
John N


:

The screensaver is probably configured to lock the computer after
a
period
of idle time as a security measure if a user did not manually
lock
the
computer using Control-Alt-Delete - lock computer. Try going to
Control
Panel/display - screen saver and uncheck "on resume password
protect".

Steve


Steven:

Once again, your suggestions worked just fine. Thanks.

As a follow up, after I logged onto the workstation from the
server,
and
then logged off, I went to the workstation. There was a
message
on
it
that
the workstation was locked and could only be unlocked by the
administrator.
This message however, does not show up on the server when I log
onto
the
server from my home. So there must be a setting that I could
change
so my
workstation does not "lock".

Again, any help you could give would be most appreciated.

John N
--
John N


:

Hi John.

To access a computer via RDP you need the user right for allow
logon
through
Terminal Services on the computer you are trying to access.
Try
adding
your
user account to the Remote Desktop Users group which should
show
as
being
included for the user right for allow logon through terminal
services.
You
could also try adding your user account to that user right.
Note
that
sever
user right have a corresponding "deny" user right and these
override
an
"allow" user right so make sure that there are no users/groups
listed in
deny logon through Terminal Services that could be causing you
to
get
that
message. When you are done configuring Local Security Policy
run
the
command
gpupdate /force on your server.

Steve


Hi Steven:

Thank you very much, your suggestion worked just fine. In
retrospect,
I
think that I turned changed that feature myself, and didn't
know
that
would
be the subsequent result. I was trying to configure a
remote
desktop
connection. Would you be willing to help me with that,
since
you
seem
to
know about the "interactive" features?

If so, here goes.

I have a home computer and connect to my office computer via
"Remote
Desktop". My office computer is a server, and it manages
about
6
workstations. What I was trying to do, was to connect to
the
office
server,
and then, activate the "Remote Desktop" on the server, to
get
to
the
workstations. I almost made it, as I get to the login
screen
of
the
workstation, but when I try to login, it gives me the error,

"Local security policy does not allow interactive login on
this
machine".

So that is why I was working with the "interactive" settings
in
the
security
policy, which I then turned off the feature to retain the
last
used
user
login name.

If you have any ideas about how to get past my security
policy
not
allowing
the interactice login, I would appreciate it.

Best regards

John N
--
John N


:

There is a setting in security policy that controls that.
You
can
open
Local
Security Policy via secpol.msc and go to local
policies/security
options -
interactive logon: do not display last user name. If you
set
that
to
disabled you should se the last logon name again. If you
can
not
change
that
setting that means it is being enforced by a domain level
Group
Policy.

Steve
 
G

Guest

Steven:

The transfer file I created was on an external hard drive, so I will just
delete that file off of there. I will check to see what files in My
Documents are duplicated in both prifiles that I don't need, and delete those
accordingly. Thanks for your suggestions again.

Parting question..................do you know of any forums like this for
PCAnywhere? I have version 10.5 and am having an "Invalid Login" problem. It
iwould fall under a "security" issue, but I didn't think that a Microsoft
forum was O.K. to use for that product. If you have any interest in carrying
on outside of this forum, I can certainly give you my email address. Or, if
you know of any sites that I could search, that would be great.

Best regards,

--
John N


Steven L Umbach said:
Sounds like you made some good progress. If you used the File and Settings
Transfer Wizard you can delete the file it created that you used to the
transfer from one profile to another. Other than that most likely the space
taken up is files in your My Documents folder which you may not want to have
in both profiles and if that is the case delete those files from the My
Documents folder that you don't need to be redundant after you make sure
that you can access them fine in the profile you want to use them in. You
can check the subfolders under your user profile to find out the size of
each folder using Windows Explorer.

Steve


John N said:
Steven:

Again, thanks for your suggestions. I did have to copy the shortcuts
specifically from one profile to the other, and I also used the Transfer
Files and Settings Wizard. I assume that the Wizard for the most part
does
the same thing as copying the profile in from the users menu? Anyway,
this
time using the Wizard it seemed to work. I compared the desktop and
programs, and about 98-99% was transfered with these methods.

I did however, eat up about 2 gig of hard drive space to accomplish this.
Oh well.

Best regards,

John
--
John N


Steven L Umbach said:
Hmm. Compare the contents of the desktop and start menu folders between
the
two user profiles to see if they are the same. If not for some reason you
can copy missing shortcuts to the new profile. Another thing to try is to
use the File and Settings Transfer Wizard. Go to accessories/system tools
to
find it. You should be able to store your current files and settings to a
file on your hard disk and then import it into the new profile from that
file.

Steve

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/deploy/mgrtfset.mspx
--- File and Settings Transfer Wizard

Steven:

The way you described it below, is just how I did it. That is why I
was
surprised when I logged onto the new user profile, and it was not the
same
as
my built-in Administrator account. I even did it again after it didn't
work
the first time.

Any other thoughts?

Thanks
--
John N


:

I don't know exactly how you did it but this should work. Create [even
if
just temporarily] another user account that is also an administrator
and
use
this account to copy the profile from the built in administrator
account
to
the other user account that is also an administrator that you want to
use.
The go to Control Panel/system and then select advanced/user
profiles -
settings. Then select copy to select the profile you want to copy and
select
copy to. Browse to the profile folder you want to copy to under
documents
and settings. Select the folder with the user name and select OK.
Under
permitted to use select the user name that is going to use that
profile.
Then select OK and it should copy everything over to the new user
profile
selected.

Steve


Steven:

I don't know if you would be wiling, but I have a question posted in
the
Configuration and Management section that no one has answered. If
you
would
consider giving me some help on this issue, it would be appreciated.
If
you
don't, that's fine, just say so. Here goes:

I have decided to create a new user profile (with administrator
rights)
and
not use the default (Administrator) user profile, as a precaution to
not
mess
up my good Administrator profile.

So.....I copied the profile from the "Administrator" to the new user
account
that has administrator rights. It copied just fine. When I logged
in
under the new profile, I was expecting everything to look the same,
and
that
the installed programs would work, etc. As it turns out, only about
1/2
of
the icons transfered over, and many of the installed programs like
Microsoft
Office, etc, are not installed in the new profile, although some of
the
icons
show up.

Any thoughts on how I could do this again? The copy took about 15
minutes,
but it did finish with no reported errors. Maybe what I am trying
to
accomplish can't be done?

Thanks for any help that you can give.

John N

--
John N


:

Hi Steven:

Thanks for your reply. Usually I get automatic notificaton of your
responses, and this time I did not, so I am sorry that there has
been
a
few
days lapse here. I probably forgot to mark the "Notify me of
replies"
box
last time.

I checked the setting you mentioned, and it does not appear that is
the
problem, as there was no check in that box at all. When I am at
the
server,
and log onto a workstation, that workstation immediately goes to a
locked
login screen. During that time, you can work from the server and
access
that
workstation, but you cannot have a person on the server and a
person
on
the
workstation at the same time. I assumed that you could have
concurrent
usage
like you can in PCAnywhere, but it does not appear to be the case
with
Remote
Desktop. So perhaps, there is no problem at all, but just the way
it
is
designed to work.

Thanks again for your help.



--
John N


:

The screensaver is probably configured to lock the computer after
a
period
of idle time as a security measure if a user did not manually
lock
the
computer using Control-Alt-Delete - lock computer. Try going to
Control
Panel/display - screen saver and uncheck "on resume password
protect".

Steve


Steven:

Once again, your suggestions worked just fine. Thanks.

As a follow up, after I logged onto the workstation from the
server,
and
then logged off, I went to the workstation. There was a
message
on
it
that
the workstation was locked and could only be unlocked by the
administrator.
This message however, does not show up on the server when I log
onto
the
server from my home. So there must be a setting that I could
change
so my
workstation does not "lock".

Again, any help you could give would be most appreciated.

John N
--
John N


:

Hi John.

To access a computer via RDP you need the user right for allow
logon
through
Terminal Services on the computer you are trying to access.
Try
adding
your
user account to the Remote Desktop Users group which should
show
as
being
included for the user right for allow logon through terminal
services.
You
could also try adding your user account to that user right.
Note
that
sever
user right have a corresponding "deny" user right and these
override
an
"allow" user right so make sure that there are no users/groups
listed in
deny logon through Terminal Services that could be causing you
to
get
that
message. When you are done configuring Local Security Policy
run
the
command
gpupdate /force on your server.

Steve


Hi Steven:

Thank you very much, your suggestion worked just fine. In
retrospect,
I
think that I turned changed that feature myself, and didn't
know
that
would
 
S

Steven L Umbach

Hi John.

I can't help you much with PCAnyhwhere though I would suggest that you post
that question in the Microsoft.public.windowsxp.work_remotely newsgroup to
see if anyone can help over there including referring you to a forum
dedicated to PCAnyhwhere if need be.

In general to troubleshoot network applications the first thing to do is to
make sure the application has access to the proper ports used by the
application on the "server" computer accepting the connection. The link
below will give you an idea of what is needed. Any internet router would
need to be configured to forward traffic on those ports to the IP address of
the computer running PCAnyhwhere and software/host firewalls would also
need to allow access.

http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/pca.nsf/pfdocs/1998122810210812

I would also make sure that you use Local Security Policy via secpol.msc to
make sure that auditing of logon events is enabled for success and failure,
and privilege use is enabled for failure only. Then the next time you try to
access the computer via PCAnyhwhere check the logs via Event viewer on the
computer you are trying to access to see if any error/warning/failure events
are shown in the application and security logs time stamped at around the
time the logon failed that may help explain the problem.

When posting a question be sure to include the version of XP being used,
what service pack is being used, what version of PCAnyhwhere, if you are
trying access as a regular user account or administrator, and if this is a
problem that you have never been able to correct or new problem to a
configuration that used to work and if so what changes have been made to
your operating system [including security updates and new applications] and
network hardware since the problem started.

Steve


John N said:
Steven:

The transfer file I created was on an external hard drive, so I will just
delete that file off of there. I will check to see what files in My
Documents are duplicated in both prifiles that I don't need, and delete
those
accordingly. Thanks for your suggestions again.

Parting question..................do you know of any forums like this for
PCAnywhere? I have version 10.5 and am having an "Invalid Login" problem.
It
iwould fall under a "security" issue, but I didn't think that a Microsoft
forum was O.K. to use for that product. If you have any interest in
carrying
on outside of this forum, I can certainly give you my email address. Or,
if
you know of any sites that I could search, that would be great.

Best regards,

--
John N


Steven L Umbach said:
Sounds like you made some good progress. If you used the File and
Settings
Transfer Wizard you can delete the file it created that you used to the
transfer from one profile to another. Other than that most likely the
space
taken up is files in your My Documents folder which you may not want to
have
in both profiles and if that is the case delete those files from the My
Documents folder that you don't need to be redundant after you make sure
that you can access them fine in the profile you want to use them in. You
can check the subfolders under your user profile to find out the size of
each folder using Windows Explorer.

Steve


John N said:
Steven:

Again, thanks for your suggestions. I did have to copy the shortcuts
specifically from one profile to the other, and I also used the
Transfer
Files and Settings Wizard. I assume that the Wizard for the most part
does
the same thing as copying the profile in from the users menu? Anyway,
this
time using the Wizard it seemed to work. I compared the desktop and
programs, and about 98-99% was transfered with these methods.

I did however, eat up about 2 gig of hard drive space to accomplish
this.
Oh well.

Best regards,

John
--
John N


:

Hmm. Compare the contents of the desktop and start menu folders
between
the
two user profiles to see if they are the same. If not for some reason
you
can copy missing shortcuts to the new profile. Another thing to try is
to
use the File and Settings Transfer Wizard. Go to accessories/system
tools
to
find it. You should be able to store your current files and settings
to a
file on your hard disk and then import it into the new profile from
that
file.

Steve

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/deploy/mgrtfset.mspx
--- File and Settings Transfer Wizard

Steven:

The way you described it below, is just how I did it. That is why I
was
surprised when I logged onto the new user profile, and it was not
the
same
as
my built-in Administrator account. I even did it again after it
didn't
work
the first time.

Any other thoughts?

Thanks
--
John N


:

I don't know exactly how you did it but this should work. Create
[even
if
just temporarily] another user account that is also an
administrator
and
use
this account to copy the profile from the built in administrator
account
to
the other user account that is also an administrator that you want
to
use.
The go to Control Panel/system and then select advanced/user
profiles -
settings. Then select copy to select the profile you want to copy
and
select
copy to. Browse to the profile folder you want to copy to under
documents
and settings. Select the folder with the user name and select OK.
Under
permitted to use select the user name that is going to use that
profile.
Then select OK and it should copy everything over to the new user
profile
selected.

Steve


Steven:

I don't know if you would be wiling, but I have a question posted
in
the
Configuration and Management section that no one has answered.
If
you
would
consider giving me some help on this issue, it would be
appreciated.
If
you
don't, that's fine, just say so. Here goes:

I have decided to create a new user profile (with administrator
rights)
and
not use the default (Administrator) user profile, as a precaution
to
not
mess
up my good Administrator profile.

So.....I copied the profile from the "Administrator" to the new
user
account
that has administrator rights. It copied just fine. When I
logged
in
under the new profile, I was expecting everything to look the
same,
and
that
the installed programs would work, etc. As it turns out, only
about
1/2
of
the icons transfered over, and many of the installed programs
like
Microsoft
Office, etc, are not installed in the new profile, although some
of
the
icons
show up.

Any thoughts on how I could do this again? The copy took about
15
minutes,
but it did finish with no reported errors. Maybe what I am
trying
to
accomplish can't be done?

Thanks for any help that you can give.

John N

--
John N


:

Hi Steven:

Thanks for your reply. Usually I get automatic notificaton of
your
responses, and this time I did not, so I am sorry that there has
been
a
few
days lapse here. I probably forgot to mark the "Notify me of
replies"
box
last time.

I checked the setting you mentioned, and it does not appear that
is
the
problem, as there was no check in that box at all. When I am at
the
server,
and log onto a workstation, that workstation immediately goes to
a
locked
login screen. During that time, you can work from the server
and
access
that
workstation, but you cannot have a person on the server and a
person
on
the
workstation at the same time. I assumed that you could have
concurrent
usage
like you can in PCAnywhere, but it does not appear to be the
case
with
Remote
Desktop. So perhaps, there is no problem at all, but just the
way
it
is
designed to work.

Thanks again for your help.



--
John N


:

The screensaver is probably configured to lock the computer
after
a
period
of idle time as a security measure if a user did not manually
lock
the
computer using Control-Alt-Delete - lock computer. Try going
to
Control
Panel/display - screen saver and uncheck "on resume password
protect".

Steve


Steven:

Once again, your suggestions worked just fine. Thanks.

As a follow up, after I logged onto the workstation from the
server,
and
then logged off, I went to the workstation. There was a
message
on
it
that
the workstation was locked and could only be unlocked by the
administrator.
This message however, does not show up on the server when I
log
onto
the
server from my home. So there must be a setting that I
could
change
so my
workstation does not "lock".

Again, any help you could give would be most appreciated.

John N
--
John N


:

Hi John.

To access a computer via RDP you need the user right for
allow
logon
through
Terminal Services on the computer you are trying to access.
Try
adding
your
user account to the Remote Desktop Users group which should
show
as
being
included for the user right for allow logon through
terminal
services.
You
could also try adding your user account to that user right.
Note
that
sever
user right have a corresponding "deny" user right and these
override
an
"allow" user right so make sure that there are no
users/groups
listed in
deny logon through Terminal Services that could be causing
you
to
get
that
message. When you are done configuring Local Security
Policy
run
the
command
gpupdate /force on your server.

Steve


Hi Steven:

Thank you very much, your suggestion worked just fine.
In
retrospect,
I
think that I turned changed that feature myself, and
didn't
know
that
would
 

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