Chkdsk problem

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Nicholas Kingsley

Hello

I've got 2 Acer Laptops (a 5024WLMi & Ferrari 4000). Originally these
came with FAT32, so I converted them to NTFS.

Now, whenever a full chkdsk is run, I find that it always says :

Cleaning up 13 unused index entries from index $SII of file 0x9.
Cleaning up 13 unused index entries from index $SDH of file 0x9.
Cleaning up 13 unused security descriptors.

There are no errors or any other problems.

I'm running XP Home on both machines (with SP2 of course). What is
causing this ? I suspect its the hidden partition (PQSERVICE - ESIA
configuration) thats causing the problem.

Aside from the stated problem, both machines work ver well.

Nicholas
 
G

Guest

How do you run CHKDSK,try going to run,type:cmd In cmd type:CHKDSK C: /F
Agree to restart,then type:EXIT Restart computer.To do a full CHKDSK one
needs to type:CHKDSK C: /R
 
W

Wesley Vogel

These are not big problems. This is why you ran chkdsk in the first place,
to find and fix disk errors.

[[Chkdsk (Chkdsk.exe) is a command-line tool that checks volumes for
problems and attempts to repair any that it finds. For example, Chkdsk can
repair problems related to bad sectors, lost clusters, cross-linked files,
and directory errors.]]
From...
Chkdsk
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/...windows/xp/all/reskit/en-us/prmb_tol_pwfd.asp

[[If CHKDSK finds directory listings for file record segments that are no
longer in use, or for file record segments that are in use but that do not
correspond to the file that is listed in the directory, CHKDSK simply
removes the directory entry for the file record segment. ]]

[[Security descriptors contain information about ownership of a file or
directory, about NTFS permissions for the file or directory, and about
auditing for the file or directory. The "percent completed" that CHKDSK
displays during this phase is the percentage of the volume's files and
directories that have been checked. CHKDSK verifies that each security
descriptor structure is well formed and is internally consistent. CHKDSK
does not verify the actual existence of the users or groups that are listed
or the appropriateness of the permissions that are granted. ]]
From...
An explanation of the new /C and /I Switches that are available to use with
Chkdsk.exe
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;314835

[[However, Chkdsk.exe just reclaims the unused security descriptors as a
housekeeping activity, and it does not actually fix any kind of problem. ]]
From...
Windows 2000 Chkdsk Reports Cleaning Unused Security Descriptors
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;255008

[[Tip: Don't Panic At CHKDSK "Security Descriptor" Cleanup
Few people -- myself included -- pay much attention to the plethora of
reports that CHKDSK spews out at you. The one time I do pay rigorous
attention to it is when I know there's been a problem, and I'm running
CHKDSK to clean up possible damage. Occasionally, people get the message,
"Cleaning up minor inconsistencies on the drive," or "Cleaning up unused
security descriptors," and are concerned that this means data is missing. It
isn't.

Here's what it means: When you delete a file or folder with permissions that
you've set by hand rather than allowed to be automatically inherited from
its parent, the ACL (Access Control List, the security descriptor) isn't
deleted, but cached. Running CHKDSK against these "dead" items cleans up the
ACLs that are no longer in use and frees up space. This is why it's a good
idea to run CHKDSK if you are constantly adding and deleting files,
especially if you play with the ACLs a lot.]]
http://www.winmag.com/columns/powerw2k/2000/46.htm

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In
 
N

Nicholas Kingsley

Hello

Thanks for the info. It does seem to be a bit of waste of Chkdsk's time
if it just reports things and doesn't fix them :)

Aside from that , I'll just ignore those cleanup messages now...

Nicholas

Wesley said:
These are not big problems. This is why you ran chkdsk in the first place,
to find and fix disk errors.

[[Chkdsk (Chkdsk.exe) is a command-line tool that checks volumes for
problems and attempts to repair any that it finds. For example, Chkdsk can
repair problems related to bad sectors, lost clusters, cross-linked files,
and directory errors.]]
From...
Chkdsk
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/...windows/xp/all/reskit/en-us/prmb_tol_pwfd.asp

[[If CHKDSK finds directory listings for file record segments that are no
longer in use, or for file record segments that are in use but that do not
correspond to the file that is listed in the directory, CHKDSK simply
removes the directory entry for the file record segment. ]]

[[Security descriptors contain information about ownership of a file or
directory, about NTFS permissions for the file or directory, and about
auditing for the file or directory. The "percent completed" that CHKDSK
displays during this phase is the percentage of the volume's files and
directories that have been checked. CHKDSK verifies that each security
descriptor structure is well formed and is internally consistent. CHKDSK
does not verify the actual existence of the users or groups that are listed
or the appropriateness of the permissions that are granted. ]]
From...
An explanation of the new /C and /I Switches that are available to use with
Chkdsk.exe
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;314835

[[However, Chkdsk.exe just reclaims the unused security descriptors as a
housekeeping activity, and it does not actually fix any kind of problem. ]]
From...
Windows 2000 Chkdsk Reports Cleaning Unused Security Descriptors
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;255008

[[Tip: Don't Panic At CHKDSK "Security Descriptor" Cleanup
Few people -- myself included -- pay much attention to the plethora of
reports that CHKDSK spews out at you. The one time I do pay rigorous
attention to it is when I know there's been a problem, and I'm running
CHKDSK to clean up possible damage. Occasionally, people get the message,
"Cleaning up minor inconsistencies on the drive," or "Cleaning up unused
security descriptors," and are concerned that this means data is missing. It
isn't.

Here's what it means: When you delete a file or folder with permissions that
you've set by hand rather than allowed to be automatically inherited from
its parent, the ACL (Access Control List, the security descriptor) isn't
deleted, but cached. Running CHKDSK against these "dead" items cleans up the
ACLs that are no longer in use and frees up space. This is why it's a good
idea to run CHKDSK if you are constantly adding and deleting files,
especially if you play with the ACLs a lot.]]
http://www.winmag.com/columns/powerw2k/2000/46.htm
 

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