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JCO
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rogerlebo
Hi JCO!
You're right.
Ghost is supposed to take a bit by bit copy of a disk to create the image.
For some reasons, Windows Vista does not recognize the partition on the
restored disk.
But, we have a tool on the Windows Vista DVD to repair that.
Bonne fin de semaine! Roger
You're right.
Ghost is supposed to take a bit by bit copy of a disk to create the image.
For some reasons, Windows Vista does not recognize the partition on the
restored disk.
But, we have a tool on the Windows Vista DVD to repair that.
Bonne fin de semaine! Roger
C
Chris Game
rogerlebo said:Ghost is supposed to take a bit by bit copy of a disk to create
the image.
Well there must be more to it than that, or else the image size
would be the same as the imaged partition.
For some reasons, Windows Vista does not recognize the partition
on the restored disk.
Something to do with the boot sectors? Acronis seems to set those up
according to user choice during re-installation of an image (where
such choices are sensible or possible I suppose).
J
JCO
It may have something to do with the fact that the bit by bit copy is only
of the data and not the entire partition itself. This is regardless of
defragmentaion of the drive (or data).
I don't know... just guessing.
There is a new Imaging tool that is suppose to work with Vista
(gparted-0.2.5.), but I don't know anything about this tool. Other than the
fact that it is Open Source and Free to use. I'm just starting to look into
it.
of the data and not the entire partition itself. This is regardless of
defragmentaion of the drive (or data).
I don't know... just guessing.
There is a new Imaging tool that is suppose to work with Vista
(gparted-0.2.5.), but I don't know anything about this tool. Other than the
fact that it is Open Source and Free to use. I'm just starting to look into
it.
C
Chad Harris
Zack--
I haven't used the new Diskmgmt shrink in Vista but it doesn't seem to have
the choices that free Ranish does.
When I get time I need to make a serious comparison. It should work but I
would suggest giving Ranish a try if you need to get something done now.
http://www.ranish.com/part/
Also Colin's comment on defragging first after a Vista install is a good
thing to pay attention to.
Vista setup can cause fragmentation, but they also have set up default
defrags or you can do an analyze from command. I strongly urge people to
use either Diskeeper or Perfect Disk. Diskeeper has a Vista trial app and I
can show anyone how to make PD work on Vista if they need it.
CH
I haven't used the new Diskmgmt shrink in Vista but it doesn't seem to have
the choices that free Ranish does.
When I get time I need to make a serious comparison. It should work but I
would suggest giving Ranish a try if you need to get something done now.
http://www.ranish.com/part/
Also Colin's comment on defragging first after a Vista install is a good
thing to pay attention to.
Vista setup can cause fragmentation, but they also have set up default
defrags or you can do an analyze from command. I strongly urge people to
use either Diskeeper or Perfect Disk. Diskeeper has a Vista trial app and I
can show anyone how to make PD work on Vista if they need it.
CH
C
Chad Harris
John--
Have you been able to run PM with Vista from the CD? Can you put up steps.
I'm also trying to remember the tip for making PM run a lot faster. If you
run PM the regular way, and have a lot of material on the drive, it can take
hours to run. It does a good job for me but it ties up a box for a long
time. We had a tip on here to make it faster. Maybe running from the CD was
a part of that.
CH
Have you been able to run PM with Vista from the CD? Can you put up steps.
I'm also trying to remember the tip for making PM run a lot faster. If you
run PM the regular way, and have a lot of material on the drive, it can take
hours to run. It does a good job for me but it ties up a box for a long
time. We had a tip on here to make it faster. Maybe running from the CD was
a part of that.
CH
C
Chad Harris
Mark if I remember a little while ago you had a tip to make PM run faster.
Can you put that up again?
CH
Can you put that up again?
CH
C
Chad Harris
Vista uses a new modified NTFS. I haven't been able to find a detailed piece
of information on the comparison or changes but I know that they have
modified NTFS in Vista.
CH
of information on the comparison or changes but I know that they have
modified NTFS in Vista.
CH
M
Mark D. VandenBeg
Chad Harris said:Mark if I remember a little while ago you had a tip to make PM run faster.
Can you put that up again?
CH
Wasn't anything special, really. If you purchased an actual CD of PM, or
you have a CD with a running version of PM on it, you can boot straight from
it. This way, none of the hard drives are in use when you implement a
change and you don't have to reboot for anything. I have never sat there
with a stopwatch, but it seems about twice as fast as when using it in
Windows.
C
Chad Harris
I haven't seen anything on the Vista diskmgmt.msc to expand partitions
CH
CH
C
Chad Harris
JCO--
I noticed that Nick White had used the steps for RIS or the remote
installation service often used at MSFT to install since many of them
install a new build or two for that day. I much prefer to install for a
dual boot by burning the ISO in Windows XP then running the setup screen for
the Vista build on the XP desktop ( rather than starting the computer and
then installing from the Vista DVD). That way the Bios doesn't dictate new
drive letter assignments and change your drive letters
*How To Burn the DVD and Dual Boot Vista From Windows XP* (Nero as Example)
1) If or when you have the dual boot in place in the future, you may want to
save or backup whatever you files/folders, shortcuts you created on the
previous Vista boot so you won't have to go after them again (right now
there is no previousVista boot for you) but there will be the next time
around. You'll able to do that with Vista's backup or just burn to your DVD
burner (Vista also has native DVD burning software).
2) If in the future you have XP on one boot and Vista on the other, boot
into XP and type diskmgmt.msc in the run box and right click the drive where
your current Vista is so that you clean it to put on the future Vista. There
are lots of ways to format, but this one is quick and easy and it works.
3) Open up Nero Burning Rom, or any other burning software. One of the
selections in Nero on your All
Programs menu. You will drag the mouse accross the Nero Ultra entry in All
Programs first. If you have Nero 6X and 7, (I can't remember how it was in
5. you will have two dialogue boxes pop up when you click Nero Burning Rom.
The one facing you will say "New Compilation." The only thing you have to
click on that is ISO. The other checkboxes and pulldowns don't need to be
touched to burn the Vista Iso.
Then you'll find a new button on the Upper Right. Click it. Make
absolutely sure when given the option to Close the DVD burning session you
do this so that it will be bootable. Burn at a slow speed--this is an
Operating System Iso so use 8X or even 4X. You don't need to burn any more
slowly and a DVD + gives you an edge in burning accuracy. It's not going
to take that long.
4) Make sure you close the session.
5) There are times when people are unsuccessful at burning the Iso and there
is one more tip I use and it's outlined here:
Get to Device Manager by typing devmgmt.msc in run/win key + pause break or
Rt.click My Computer>Prop>hardware tab>Device Manager if you like 5
stepsinstead of one cmd. If you're set to PMI here change to DMO and if set
toDMO change to PMI:
a.. Click the + in front of IDE ATA/ATAPI Controllers
a.. Double Click the Secondary IDE Controller
a.. Click Advanced Settings
a.. Under Device 1 Next to Transfer Mode choose DMA (or vise versa)
a.. Click OK
a.. Reboot your System
6) After you burn the Iso, while you are in XP, the setup for Vista will pop
up on your screen.
7) CRC checking utilities for accuracy of the burn are available on the web.
8) On a dual boot you'll get a black and white screen that gives you
choices:
Good luck,
CH
I noticed that Nick White had used the steps for RIS or the remote
installation service often used at MSFT to install since many of them
install a new build or two for that day. I much prefer to install for a
dual boot by burning the ISO in Windows XP then running the setup screen for
the Vista build on the XP desktop ( rather than starting the computer and
then installing from the Vista DVD). That way the Bios doesn't dictate new
drive letter assignments and change your drive letters
*How To Burn the DVD and Dual Boot Vista From Windows XP* (Nero as Example)
1) If or when you have the dual boot in place in the future, you may want to
save or backup whatever you files/folders, shortcuts you created on the
previous Vista boot so you won't have to go after them again (right now
there is no previousVista boot for you) but there will be the next time
around. You'll able to do that with Vista's backup or just burn to your DVD
burner (Vista also has native DVD burning software).
2) If in the future you have XP on one boot and Vista on the other, boot
into XP and type diskmgmt.msc in the run box and right click the drive where
your current Vista is so that you clean it to put on the future Vista. There
are lots of ways to format, but this one is quick and easy and it works.
3) Open up Nero Burning Rom, or any other burning software. One of the
selections in Nero on your All
Programs menu. You will drag the mouse accross the Nero Ultra entry in All
Programs first. If you have Nero 6X and 7, (I can't remember how it was in
5. you will have two dialogue boxes pop up when you click Nero Burning Rom.
The one facing you will say "New Compilation." The only thing you have to
click on that is ISO. The other checkboxes and pulldowns don't need to be
touched to burn the Vista Iso.
Then you'll find a new button on the Upper Right. Click it. Make
absolutely sure when given the option to Close the DVD burning session you
do this so that it will be bootable. Burn at a slow speed--this is an
Operating System Iso so use 8X or even 4X. You don't need to burn any more
slowly and a DVD + gives you an edge in burning accuracy. It's not going
to take that long.
4) Make sure you close the session.
5) There are times when people are unsuccessful at burning the Iso and there
is one more tip I use and it's outlined here:
Get to Device Manager by typing devmgmt.msc in run/win key + pause break or
Rt.click My Computer>Prop>hardware tab>Device Manager if you like 5
stepsinstead of one cmd. If you're set to PMI here change to DMO and if set
toDMO change to PMI:
a.. Click the + in front of IDE ATA/ATAPI Controllers
a.. Double Click the Secondary IDE Controller
a.. Click Advanced Settings
a.. Under Device 1 Next to Transfer Mode choose DMA (or vise versa)
a.. Click OK
a.. Reboot your System
6) After you burn the Iso, while you are in XP, the setup for Vista will pop
up on your screen.
7) CRC checking utilities for accuracy of the burn are available on the web.
8) On a dual boot you'll get a black and white screen that gives you
choices:
Good luck,
CH
J
jco
My only issue is that you can do other things with Partition Magic that does
not require you to be in a DOS type screen. You can format, rename drives.
These might as well be done in Windows. Definitly, if you have to change a
partition size, then the windows version will boot you to DOS to make those
changes, then boot you back to windows when it is finished.
not require you to be in a DOS type screen. You can format, rename drives.
These might as well be done in Windows. Definitly, if you have to change a
partition size, then the windows version will boot you to DOS to make those
changes, then boot you back to windows when it is finished.
J
jco
But I beleive the NTFS in Vista is the same as NTFS in Windows XP sp2. I
read that somewhere else. This may make more sense to somebody... but not
me.
read that somewhere else. This may make more sense to somebody... but not
me.
M
Mark D. VandenBerg
jco said:My only issue is that you can do other things with Partition Magic that
does not require you to be in a DOS type screen. You can format, rename
drives. These might as well be done in Windows. Definitly, if you have to
change a partition size, then the windows version will boot you to DOS to
make those changes, then boot you back to windows when it is finished.
Without a doubt. Anything I want to do that involves a reboot I do from
DOS. No reboot, working from Windows is just fine. BTW, if you haven't
tried it, the DOS version of PM is remarkably similar to the Windows,
complete a GUI, a mouse with "right-click" menus and all, so, not that
difficult to use it either way.
J
jco
I feel like I've been ripped off. I'm looking at my CD and it shows
folders with only 2-files in the root which are text files. Then the setup
folder is available to install. I cannot boot. I don't have a boot file or
Image file that contains the boot information. I would be interested in
knowing what files are on your root CD that causes it to boot from the CD.
Maybe it's just a batch file? I would like to know?
Thanks
folders with only 2-files in the root which are text files. Then the setup
folder is available to install. I cannot boot. I don't have a boot file or
Image file that contains the boot information. I would be interested in
knowing what files are on your root CD that causes it to boot from the CD.
Maybe it's just a batch file? I would like to know?
Thanks
J
jco
As it turns out, using my disk manager from Vista shows the partition stuff
to be grayed out. I'm not sure why that is the case. Is there a special
way to get to this area using Administrator Rights that will make the
options available.
to be grayed out. I'm not sure why that is the case. Is there a special
way to get to this area using Administrator Rights that will make the
options available.
M
Mark D. VandenBerg
jco said:I feel like I've been ripped off. I'm looking at my CD and it shows
folders with only 2-files in the root which are text files. Then the setup
folder is available to install. I cannot boot. I don't have a boot file
or Image file that contains the boot information. I would be interested in
knowing what files are on your root CD that causes it to boot from the CD.
Maybe it's just a batch file? I would like to know?
Thanks
One of the advantages of buying the box, I guess.
In the root of the CD are:
AUTORUN.EXE
AUTORUN.INF
DEMO32.DBD
DEMO32.EXE
PM.VER
PQPB.RTC
And the following directories:
DEUTSCH
ENGLISH
ESPANOL
FRANCAIS
ITALIANO
UTILITY
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Chad Harris
My experience is that what is grayed out are Format/Delete Partition/Mark
Partition as Active is grayed out on the drive you're on--that's always been
the case with Disk Manager--you can't delete or format the drive you're on.
I don't think you have a User Privelege problem.
What happened when you tried any other suggestions or did you?
http://www.ranish.com/part/ is a very good free app.
CH
Partition as Active is grayed out on the drive you're on--that's always been
the case with Disk Manager--you can't delete or format the drive you're on.
I don't think you have a User Privelege problem.
What happened when you tried any other suggestions or did you?
http://www.ranish.com/part/ is a very good free app.
CH
J
JCO
Thanks. I guess your autorun.inf simply says to execute Autorun.exe.
Yeah, I don't have that option. Oh well, thanks again.
Yeah, I don't have that option. Oh well, thanks again.
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