Changes page setup for different slides?

[StargateFan]

I'm lost re this. The first page of a presentation is letter
portrait, a standard page. But the second slide needs to be on a
legal landscape sized sheet of paper but the slide itself is a custom
size (obviously using PowerPoint to produce a document format versus a
presentation one in this case).

Is there a way to do this? It would make my life so easy if it's
possible, but I searched in the help and didn't find anything.
Obviously I don't know what to ask for really, I'm sure, which is what
the problem might be.

Thanks.

 

[Bill Dilworth]

Stargate as in ISP or Stargate as in fictional stellar doorway? Anyway,
what you are looking for is at:
**Mix Portrait and Landscape slides in a presentation
http://www.rdpslides.com/pptfaq/FAQ00042.htm


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[StargateFan]

Stargate as in ISP or Stargate as in fictional stellar doorway?

<lol> The fictional stellar doorway, of course!!! <g>

Anyway,

what you are looking for is at:
**Mix Portrait and Landscape slides in a presentation
http://www.rdpslides.com/pptfaq/FAQ00042.htm

Rats. You'd think that PP would have this ability for when people use
it as a graphics-type editor for printing things vs as a presentation
app!! <g>

(I've heard that term before, KIOSK, but in Filemaker Pro. I'll have
to hunt down what it means as all I can ever picture when this term is
used is an outdoor sort of pagoda-like vending booth! <lol>)

Darn, will have to stick with putting slides of different sizes in
different documents <sigh>. This workaround seems more bother than is
necessary. I was trying to cut down on the confusing number of docts.
In Word, and other programs, I'm able to put both covers and spines in
one document because I can change paper settings at any time.

I've been required to come up with fancier presentation binders and
had all the graphics/text just ready to go for each of them from the
contents of the presentations that we're putting in these binders. It
occurred to me of how much easier it would be to using the
presentation documents themselves for the binder covers/spines. But
spine labels I've always used legal landscape for while covers are
letter portrait.

Ah well, it was a fantastic idea, at any rate!

Thanks anyway; much appreciated!!

 

[Steve Rindsberg]

Rats. You'd think that PP would have this ability for when people use
it as a graphics-type editor for printing things vs as a presentation
app!! <g>

It's had a lot of very useful drawing tools added to it over time, but PPT
wasn't designed as a graphics/drawing app; more of a tool to assemble graphics
and drawings into a presentation. Seen that way, some of its little lacks are
a bit less startling.

(I've heard that term before, KIOSK, but in Filemaker Pro. I'll have
to hunt down what it means as all I can ever picture when this term is
used is an outdoor sort of pagoda-like vending booth! <lol>)

And in PPT, KIOSK mode is what you'd use to put a self-service presentation in
such a booth. See, it all fits together in the end. ,-)

 

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Hello,

PowerPoint does not have the specific capability that you are looking for
although there are a few different workarounds depending on what is most
important (easy printing <single file>, or on-screen slide show
appearance). There's an online help topic that describes one workaround:

http://office.microsoft.com/assistance/preview.aspx?AssetID=HP051949451033

If you (or anyone else reading this message) think that PowerPoint should
provide support for mixed orientation slides in same presentation
(onscreen? print? both?), or features for better handling of naturally
"portrait" content in a landscape slide show, or better features for
chaining multiple presentations together (regardless of each presentations
orientation), don't forget to send your feedback (in YOUR OWN WORDS,
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http://register.microsoft.com/mswish/suggestion.asp

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[StargateFan]

It's had a lot of very useful drawing tools added to it over time, but PPT
wasn't designed as a graphics/drawing app; more of a tool to assemble graphics
and drawings into a presentation. Seen that way, some of its little lacks are
a bit less startling.

I understand all that, but it would make it a much more versatile
program _nonetheless_. Here's a perfect example where I have _all_
the elements needed to create the binder covers for the presentation
(used as a _deck_ here and not as a slideshow, etc., btw.) yet I can't
take advantage of them fully. I had been importing the graphics into
Word for this until I got this idea.

If it weren't for the number of decks and binders needed, this
wouldn't be a problem. But it is as it's a daily thing. Ah well.

I did come up with a "solution". I was forced to go with one size of
paper, so it's all in letter-size, but needs and the overwhelming
amount of extra work during the election have forced this compromise -
I changed the size of the second slide for the "spine" of the binders
and formatted the lettering to fall within this size and put the
description for each in the notes right underneath the slide so at
least that shows up on the screen. It's dirty and messy, but I have
to live with that as there's no choice. Time and demands constraints.

And in PPT, KIOSK mode is what you'd use to put a self-service presentation in
such a booth. See, it all fits together in the end. ,-)

Still clear as mud. Thanks, though, for trying to explain. Often,
words are just that. I'd have to see it in action to understand.

That's okay, between all the work I'm trying to accomplish (complete
with a supervisor who wants things done her way yet that keeps getting
us into trouble ... <lol>), I've got enough on my plate <g>. Only
20-odd days left to go. But then we're into the post-election mess!!
<g>

Thanks everyone!

 

[StargateFan]

[CRITICAL UPDATE - Anyone using Office 2003 should install the critical
update as soon as possible. From PowerPoint, choose "Help -> Check for
Updates".]
[TOP ISSUE - Are you having difficulty opening presentations in PowerPoint
that you just created (you can save, but not open)? -
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=329820]

Hello,

PowerPoint does not have the specific capability that you are looking for
although there are a few different workarounds depending on what is most
important (easy printing <single file>, or on-screen slide show
appearance). There's an online help topic that describes one workaround:

http://office.microsoft.com/assistance/preview.aspx?AssetID=HP051949451033

Great workaround till they fix this in PowerPoint for a slideshow
presentation. Thanks for that.

It doesn't help in this case, but it's good to know.

If you (or anyone else reading this message) think that PowerPoint should
provide support for mixed orientation slides in same presentation
(onscreen? print? both?), or features for better handling of naturally

Both, yes!

"portrait" content in a landscape slide show, or better features for
chaining multiple presentations together (regardless of each presentations
orientation), don't forget to send your feedback (in YOUR OWN WORDS,
please) to Microsoft at:

http://register.microsoft.com/mswish/suggestion.asp

Thanks! This is such a vital thing I'm wondering WHY it was missed!
Developers and Engineers - they don't spend enough time out in the
field actually working with the apps, that's why!! <lol>

Thanks. Appreciate knowing how to make a suggestion. I think this
feature should be added. That way we'd be able to use PowerPoint more
than we do now!

 

[Echo S]

Thanks! This is such a vital thing I'm wondering WHY it was missed!
Developers and Engineers - they don't spend enough time out in the
field actually working with the apps, that's why!! <lol>

Nah. Well, maybe, but I don't think that's really the case here. <g>

The thing is, PPT was originally designed as presentation software, and so
that's where its focus really lies. Since you can't (well, it's not
practical to, anyway) flip the slide show projection *screen* on its side in
the middle of a presentation to allow for portrait-oriented objects, there's
really not a good reason to include both portrait and landscape in the same
presentation. In actuality, you're limited to the height of the screen
(which is actually landscape), so even portrait content is limited to that
height as well. So in that case, you might as well put the portrait content
on the landscape slide and scale it to the height of the landscape slide.

But you've hit upon a valid reason for mixing orientation, and that, of
course, is for printing. I think MS has just started realizing in the past
version or so exactly how much -- and in what variety -- PPT is printed.

But because a projection screen limits you to one height, my worry is that
if MS adds the ability to mix portrait and landscape in one presentation,
we'll start seeing daily questions like "Why does my portrait slide hang off
the top and bottom edges of the screen?" or "Why is the landscape slide in
my mixed-orientation presentation showing up so small in the middle of the
screen when I want it to fill the screen?"

I'm not looking forward to explaining that every day.

 

[Steve Rindsberg]

Still clear as mud.

So many of my attempts at explanation are. Maybe if I stopped kidding around for a
moment ...?

Kiosk mode is a presentation setting. When you display a slideshow in kiosk mode,
PowerPoint ignores all keystrokes and mouseclicks other than:

- The ESC key, which ends the show
- Clicks on hyperlinks and shapes with action settings that you've added so the
user can navigate through the show

In other words, it's intended for self-running or stand-alone presentations that
won't be given by a presenter but rather left for each user to navigate and run as
they see fit.

Like in a kiosk. See? I wasn't really kidding around. Not totally. ;-)

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[StargateFan]

So many of my attempts at explanation are. Maybe if I stopped kidding around for a
moment ...?

Kiosk mode is a presentation setting. When you display a slideshow in kiosk mode,
PowerPoint ignores all keystrokes and mouseclicks other than:

- The ESC key, which ends the show
- Clicks on hyperlinks and shapes with action settings that you've added so the
user can navigate through the show

In other words, it's intended for self-running or stand-alone presentations that
won't be given by a presenter but rather left for each user to navigate and run as
they see fit.

Like in a kiosk. See? I wasn't really kidding around. Not totally. ;-)

<chuckle> Thanks, that was a real big help! I understand better now!
<g>

 

[StargateFan]

Nah. Well, maybe, but I don't think that's really the case here. <g>

The thing is, PPT was originally designed as presentation software, and so
that's where its focus really lies. Since you can't (well, it's not
practical to, anyway) flip the slide show projection *screen* on its side in
the middle of a presentation to allow for portrait-oriented objects, there's
really not a good reason to include both portrait and landscape in the same
presentation. In actuality, you're limited to the height of the screen
(which is actually landscape), so even portrait content is limited to that
height as well. So in that case, you might as well put the portrait content
on the landscape slide and scale it to the height of the landscape slide.

But you've hit upon a valid reason for mixing orientation, and that, of
course, is for printing. I think MS has just started realizing in the past
version or so exactly how much -- and in what variety -- PPT is printed.

But because a projection screen limits you to one height, my worry is that
if MS adds the ability to mix portrait and landscape in one presentation,
we'll start seeing daily questions like "Why does my portrait slide hang off
the top and bottom edges of the screen?" or "Why is the landscape slide in
my mixed-orientation presentation showing up so small in the middle of the
screen when I want it to fill the screen?"

I'm not looking forward to explaining that every day.

Neat, thanks!

We users like versatility, but don't always remember that there are
technical reasons why things don't work a certain way. <sigh>

Of course, it's not been a usual practice to use the decks in this
way. But we're in an election period and there are hundreds of copies
being made as this report has to come out daily! I'm filling up a
3-inch binder a week, more or less! And that's for just one set of
stats (ea. of these decks is usu. 60 pages or so long!).

Well, despite the problems it might engender, I hope the developers
consider some sort of functionality of this type. I use Paint Shop
Pro at home, but no graphic editors are even found in the contracts I
get sent on. Now that I've discovered PPT as a very decent
graphics-type editor, too, I'll use it a whole lot more. Granted,
though, I'll be able to save, in most other situations,
different-sized pages in separate documents.

Thanks for the explanation; I really appreciate it.