Change Default View to Normal?

A

Al Franz

Having problem changing the default view to Normal instead of Print Layout.
I change Normal.dot and save it. Seems to work for first time but when I
open an older document the default now changes back to Print Layout. Will
not save as the last used mode??
 
S

Suzanne S. Barnhill

Any saved document will open in the view in which it was saved. The default
view in Normal.dot (or any other template) affects only *new* documents
based on that template. See
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/General/SaveViewAndZoom.htm

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G

Graham Mayor

You can, however, override the settings in the document with a couple of
macros:
(http://www.gmayor.com/installing_macro.htm). You can change the zoom from
100% as required.

Sub Autonew()
With ActiveWindow.View
.Type = wdNormalView
.Zoom.Percentage = 100
End With
End Sub

Sub AutoOpen()
ActiveWindow.Caption = ActiveDocument.FullName
With ActiveWindow.View
.Type = wdNormalView
.Zoom.Percentage = 100
End With
End Sub

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S

Suzanne S. Barnhill

The downside to such macros is that they override the settings in all
documents, which means that documents you receive from others may not be
displayed as the sender intended them to be.

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Graham Mayor

That could be a blessing ;)

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S

Suzanne S. Barnhill

Many senders would (I hope) be horrified if they viewed their documents as I
do, with nonprinting characters displayed. <g>

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Graham Mayor

I think you just shot down your own argument <bg>

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Suzanne S. Barnhill

It's irrelevant to my argument; nothing the sender does (short of a macro,
which will be disabled when I open the doc) will affect screen display
settings of that nature.

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A

Al Franz

Back to the original question my system does not save the document view
type. Even if I put it in NORMAL and save it. When I close it and open it
again it goes right back to Print Layout.

Why is this happening?? Any ideas?
 
S

Suzanne S. Barnhill

This could be the effect of an add-in.

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A

Al Franz

This could be the effect of an add-in.

Suzanne thanks for your help. As I mentioned I have a Word 2003 document
and it always opens up in "Print Layout" even if I change it to "Normal" and
save it. Going to Templates and Add-In's there is a Global Template called
rhd.dot, not sure what it is but can't seem to delete that as well. Could
that be causing the problem? Very frustrating.
 
S

Suzanne S. Barnhill

That's the Remove Hidden Data add-in, I think. It's rather embarrassing to
Microsoft that one of the flaws in this add-in is that it dirties Normal.dot
and requires you to resave it at exit. If you don't have "Prompt to save
Normal template" checked on the Save tab of Tools | Options (and you
should!), then you won't be getting a prompt to save Normal.dot, but Word
will be saving it every time you quit Word. This is never a good idea. If
you're not using the Remove Hidden Data tool, I'd advise uninstalling the
add-in. I don't guarantee that it is the source of your problem, but it
causes problems of its own.

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Al Franz

"Prompt to save Normal template" checked on the Save tab of Tools |
Options

Can't find these feature, what tab is it on, thought I scanned them all??

Also what directory should the normal.dot be in. Should it be in the User
Templates or Startup folder as defined in File Locations. Still have weird
results where everything is turning to Print View. I did uninstall the
Remove Hidden Data Tool as you mentioned.

Thanks again, Al
 
S

Suzanne S. Barnhill

As noted, it's on the Save tab. Normal.dot should be in the User Templates
folder. Note that in Windows XP, this is a Hidden folder, so you must set
your Windows folder options to display hidden and system files in order to
see/find it.

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Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

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A

Al Franz

Thanks Suzanne, well this is where I am now. Have no AddOn's installed,
uninstalled Remove Hidden Data tool and checked my options to ask to save
Normal.dot. I deleted all my normal.dot files I could find and let it
recreate a new one. If I change the view to NORMAL and quit Word and then
restart Word the blank document that starts with Word is properly showing in
NORMAL mode. But if I open a new blank document or any other existing
document it switches to PRINT LAYOUT mode. Any ideas what could be causing
this?? Any directories I should maybe clear out?
 
S

Suzanne S. Barnhill

Existing documents will open in the view in which they were saved, but I
can't imagine why you would get Document1 in Normal view and subsequent new
blank docs in Print Layout. All I can say is that Word 2003 is extremely
unreliable on this score (it also tends to lose track of other display
settings, so I'm constantly having to restore my ruler). Many users have
resorted to AutoExec or AutoOpen macros to guarantee a predictable
environment. I'm sorry I can't help further, but perhaps Graham Mayor will
come along with one of his helpful macros.

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Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

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Graham Mayor

And here it is :)
Save the following in normal.dot See
http://www.gmayor.com/installing_macro.htm

Sub Autonew()
With ActiveWindow.View
.Type = wdNormalView
.Zoom.Percentage = 100
End With
End Sub

Sub AutoOpen()
ActiveWindow.Caption = ActiveDocument.FullName
With ActiveWindow.View
.Type = wdNormalView
.Zoom.Percentage = 100
End With
End Sub


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A

Al Franz

Graham,

Thanks for the help but I think my Word 2003 has major problems. New
documents are automatically going to Print View mode only and they have a
large header of 4.5 inches. Can't seem to decrease the header size at all
it is locked even when using page setup for whole document and header edit.
Miss Wordperfect reveal codes. Any recommendations other then to re-install
Word 2003, would that possibly work?
 
S

Suzanne S. Barnhill

Change the vertical layout from Center to Top (Layout tab of Page Setup),
then click Default... and answer yes.

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