CD-RW Format

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Guest

Here's a strange one!
I've been using a CD-RW to back-up data from RC1, 5600 (using Vistas own
built-in writing software!). It's been perfect since I installed it over a
month ago! However, in the last 2 days, when I try to back up, I'm told the
disc is "read only" and can't write to it! So, I tried to format... goes
through the motions, but after a couple of minutes, informs me that it "can
not complete the format". 3 CD-RW's I've tried and all the same message.
This does NOT happen with DVD-RW or DVD+RW discs, only CD-RW!!! Can this be
a drive fault? Last night I even re-installed Vista, but still the same!
I've uninstalled the drive and re-installed it... still the same! Any
suggestions?
Regards,
Mike
 
G

Guest

I am also having sudden problems using the Windows built-in burning. IT
doesn't seem to correlate with any recent installations, etc. I can no
longer format a DVD+R double layer disc or a CD-R using the Live File System.
However, I can with a DVD+R.

Which drive are you using? I am trying to research this...
 
G

Guest

I have also been having trouble with CD-RW and DVD writers. I cannot even
read from these devices, it shows there is a disc in the drive (it comes up
with the CD header) but wont show contents of the disk. I have a Diamond
Data CD-RW, a Samsung Writemaster DVD-RW and a Imation DVD-RW which have
stopped working under Vista RC1. I have uninstalled the drives and
reinstalled numerous times, I have replaced cables twice and still no go. I
thought the devices had gone faulty and took them back to the dealer to find
there is nothing wrong with the devices. I have also installed these devices
in an XP box with no problem its only with Vista. If anyone comes up with a
fix would be a happy person again.

Adrian
 
G

Guest

Hi Skip,

My drive is a Lite-on SOHW-1693S.

HAving said I CAN use a DVD+RW, I had not in fact tried it with drag & drop!
Only NERO back-up! Just tried DVD+RW... doesn't work! So, only DVD-RW is
working with the drag & drop!
Regards,
Mie
 
G

Guest

Adrian,

Before I tried formatting these discs, I could still read from them, just
not write!
You saved me removing them and trying in an XP machine... that was my next
step! Strange that we all have a similar problem. Not a drive fault then!
Curious!

Regards,
Mike
 
G

Guest

I also have Vista RC2, but decided to go back to RC1! Anyone tried
formatting with RC2? You never know!
Mike
 
G

Guest

OK, I completely forgot that I had RC2 on my laptop, installed purely for
testing purposes! This has a Toshiba SD-R2102 cd writer/dvd-rom!
I just tried these CD-RW discs on that and still the same! "Windows was
unable to complete the format".
As with RC1, they work perfectly well using NERO to back up files and
folders etc!
The discs are Mitsubishi "Black Diamond" 4x - 12x 700meg. Had no problems
at all with these discs until a couple of days ago... on either PC! There
has to be a simple and logical explanation!
Regards,
Mike
 
G

Guest

I have just managed to partially fix my problem with my drives. When I first
configured this machine I installed 2 H/D's (IDE1)and 2 CD's (IDE2) (1xDVDRW
and 1xCDRW) everything worked OK with XP and Vista Beta. I then installed
RC1 which is where all the trouble started, both H/D's worked OK but couldnt
use either CD or DVD I have just reconfigured the PC and IDE1 is now H/D and
DVDRW, IDE2 is now H/D and CDRW.
Both devices on IDE1 work but only the h/d works on IDE2, I suppose 3 out of
4 is ok

Adrian
 
G

Guest

I also test "Live file system" with CD/DVD. I can format CD/DVD but Vista
(RC1) hang when using drag and drop. The hardware work correctly in Win2K and
Sonic DLA (using dual boot on the same machine). I also test a CD/DVD
formatted whit another machine (Roxio DirectCD - UDF ver 1.5) and I get the
same problem like Mike (CD/DVD read only message). In the event log sometimes
I also see CDROM EVENT ID 7 no other error message (only system hang).
 
G

Guest

Hi Adrian,
The way you configured IDE 1 & 2 iinitially is similar to my set-up: IDE1
is 1 x HD and IDE2 is DVD-ROM and DVD re-writer! The writer is set to master
and ROM to slave! (actually I think it's set to CS). However, why has the
problem just started to happen? It was fine as-is from the day I installed
RC1 (19th September) until now! I assume you've set the HD on IDE2 to master?
Was it the CD or DVD drive that was a problem when on IDE2? I'm going to
play around with IDE ports and master/slave settings to see if I can isolate
where the problem lies! STILL doesn't explain why it's been OK for over a
month though, does it?!
Regard
Mike
 
G

Guest

Attila,
I have no problem with any writing using NERO. I do have Easy CD/DVD
creator, but can't confirm whether it works with this as its not compatible
with Vista!
Mike
 
G

Guest

Adrian,

I've had a mad thought! I took note as to when this problem started! It
coincided with the last Defender update! It's the only thing I can come up
with at this time! I know I said I re-installed RC1 the other night... BUT I
let it update first before I tried writing to a CD-RW!
I'm now going to re-install RC1 once again... only THIS time I will not
update, and then try writing again! It HAS to be the answer, nothing else
makes sense!
Mike
 
G

Guest

Oh well... that didn't work! My PC is now back EXACTLY as it was when I
first installed RC1; ie 19th September! So what's changed? The drive isn't
faulty (I've now tried it with XP and it's fine!)... so, has something
happened to these 3 discs whilst I've been using them with Vista? I'm now
totally lost!
Help!!!
Mike
 
G

Guest

I don't think anything is wrong with anyone's drive or media here. Clearly,
Vista on our machines has gotten screwed up. I was once able to burn CDs and
DL DVD+Rs.

I just tried to format a CDR with the Live File System, the burn light
blinks and it opens a process dialog window, then it hangs with my hard drive
buzzing non-stop. I have to reboot to get my machine back. With DVD+R DLs,
when I attempt this process, all I get is a message that it's unable to
complete (while it never EVEN attempts to format). DVD+Rs work perfectly.
Strange! Does anyone know if BURN-Proof (a capability on some drives) could
affect this? I have a Plextor 755-SA.

I cannot use Easy CD Creator, PlexTools (for controlling drive functions),
or anything else I have since it's incompatible. Someone needs to figure
this out...tomorrow I will post a new thread containing a more general title
about the built-in burning problem...
 
G

Guest

Hi Skip,

Well, none of this makes sense at all! Have you read through the whole
thread? Basically, there are contradictions all the way through... we've all
had a similar problem and yet why, when completely re-installing and starting
again, won't these discs format when they did a few days ago? It's not, as
you say, faulty writers! There's ONLY the media left! Has Vista somehow
"corrupted" them? So even starting again, they're unusable! It's the only
explanation that fits! I'm not blaming Microsoft for this... let's not
forget we ARE beta testing this O/S!
I've tried erasing these discs on an XP machine... ah, but I haven't tried
formatting them with XP and trying again! Maybe, if the disc IS corrupt
somehow, this will illiminate it!
I shall report back!
Regards,
Mike.
 

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