CD/DVD issues, *not* Upper/LowerFilters

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David Cheatham

I scanned this group and it seems like everyone is having the same
problems and has the same solution to their DVD problems. Well, not me.


I have a DVD+/-RW drive that will not read any disks in it. It's an
NEC-3550A, and I've updated to the newest firmware. The only software
I've used on this drive is the OEM Nero, and that's still installed.


It will eject them via right click, and tells me to insert a disk if I
have Recording turned off, and presents a place to put files if I have
it turned on. I.e., it thinks there's no disk in the drive. I can't
burn anything, either via the built in thing or Nero, although I don't
know if that's because it doesn't work or they just detect no disc.


Now, in theory, this sounds like a bad laser, except DVDs and CDs uses
different lasers, so I'm not entirely sure how they'd both stop working
at the same time. (And I think CD-RWs use yet a third one, and it won't
read those either.)

*And* I have a old CD-RW that is exhibiting the same behavior. Though
it's a piece of crap that didn't burn right anymore, and quits reading
after about ten minutes of continual use, it never tried to tell me
that an inserted CD wasn't even there, until I tested it in this
machine.


The DVD drive, however, 'works' if I hook it up to my IDE->USB
converter on my laptop. (The converter does not actually handle DVD
drives well, and they tend to error on every other read until they stop
working one minute in, but I *can* see the disc name and directory
listings before it heads south and gives me repeated errors. It does
this same thing on my CD-RW and the older CD that I used to have.)

I don't have any other machines to test this on at the moment, but the
mere fact that I can see a directory, under any circumstances, using
this drive would imply that the laser is, in fact, working.



I've already done a lot of research on this, and I've check that Upper
and LowerFilter registry entry, and even the Services\Cdr4_2K,
Cdralw2k, Cdudf, and UdfReadr. I *had* a LowerFilter entry, but have
removed it.

And I've done the obvious things like uninstall the drivers for the CD
and even the entire IDE controller. Repeatedly.


I have Daemon tools installed, because it's nearly impossible to
operate a Windows machine without a CD drive, and I've been reduced to
ripping ISOs and transfering them across the network, but I've disabled
it for now. I can uninstall it if that will matter, and I can uninstall
Nero. I've never used any virtual disc stuff in Nero, though, or
anything but Daemon tools.

I don't *think* I've ever installed a copy-protected game that
installed drivers, but I could be wrong.


I used to be pretty knowledgable about all this, and like to consider
myself still so, but this has me completely stumped.
 
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caio pdesousa

well... I was kinda waiting for some like me to drop by...

I've been watchin all msgs 'bout creeping dvd's and/or cd's that won't work at all.
believe-me, I 've already re-installed winXP pro some 3 times, nero some other 4 or 5 times, taken
all my codecs to dump, took anyother mpeg/avi handler progs from the machine (incl. Qtime, real,
adobe premiere, shockwave's all, nero, roxio etc...), took all and any pci boards as vid capture
ones and even got my mem modules a
out and I'm working with only one 512 Mb mem module to see if 'some light arises from beyond the
deepest blue' but nothing so far.

the pc itself is a P4 2.4ghz - 478 - on a ASUS p4p800e deluxe without overclocking (could I be
safer?), 02 seagate sata 80mb, one LG CD-RW ('combo') GCC-4120B and one LG DVD RW GWA-4164B.

since this bloody banshee got screaming in my home, there's been all kinds of err msgs and creeps
where I've come to a point where I don't even look at the pc anymore... in the past three months
the my best result was burning an unique sony re-writable cd-r at a speed of 2x (????) ; media
which, my car mp3 player can recognise (WOW!!!). amazingly, it was burned on de cd-rom and not on
the dvd-r, else, I have lost on ex-blank media more than 15 dvd's and some 25 cds.. all sony /
maxwell brands.

go figure... for best or for worst at least I still have my old semi-auto 12-gauge shotgun and now
seems that I finally have something to shoot at.
MTV jackass just wait and see!!!

if someone figure something from this wondering & magic moment, please advise 'cause I'm about to
put my 386-win95 back on the road again.
that was an easy kid to play with....

thanks ya all, kyle.



"David Cheatham" <[email protected]> escreveu na mensagem
I scanned this group and it seems like everyone is having the same
problems and has the same solution to their DVD problems. Well, not me.


I have a DVD+/-RW drive that will not read any disks in it. It's an
NEC-3550A, and I've updated to the newest firmware. The only software
I've used on this drive is the OEM Nero, and that's still installed.


It will eject them via right click, and tells me to insert a disk if I
have Recording turned off, and presents a place to put files if I have
it turned on. I.e., it thinks there's no disk in the drive. I can't
burn anything, either via the built in thing or Nero, although I don't
know if that's because it doesn't work or they just detect no disc.


Now, in theory, this sounds like a bad laser, except DVDs and CDs uses
different lasers, so I'm not entirely sure how they'd both stop working
at the same time. (And I think CD-RWs use yet a third one, and it won't
read those either.)

*And* I have a old CD-RW that is exhibiting the same behavior. Though
it's a piece of crap that didn't burn right anymore, and quits reading
after about ten minutes of continual use, it never tried to tell me
that an inserted CD wasn't even there, until I tested it in this
machine.


The DVD drive, however, 'works' if I hook it up to my IDE->USB
converter on my laptop. (The converter does not actually handle DVD
drives well, and they tend to error on every other read until they stop
working one minute in, but I *can* see the disc name and directory
listings before it heads south and gives me repeated errors. It does
this same thing on my CD-RW and the older CD that I used to have.)

I don't have any other machines to test this on at the moment, but the
mere fact that I can see a directory, under any circumstances, using
this drive would imply that the laser is, in fact, working.



I've already done a lot of research on this, and I've check that Upper
and LowerFilter registry entry, and even the Services\Cdr4_2K,
Cdralw2k, Cdudf, and UdfReadr. I *had* a LowerFilter entry, but have
removed it.

And I've done the obvious things like uninstall the drivers for the CD
and even the entire IDE controller. Repeatedly.


I have Daemon tools installed, because it's nearly impossible to
operate a Windows machine without a CD drive, and I've been reduced to
ripping ISOs and transfering them across the network, but I've disabled
it for now. I can uninstall it if that will matter, and I can uninstall
Nero. I've never used any virtual disc stuff in Nero, though, or
anything but Daemon tools.

I don't *think* I've ever installed a copy-protected game that
installed drivers, but I could be wrong.


I used to be pretty knowledgable about all this, and like to consider
myself still so, but this has me completely stumped.
 

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