Can't record well when multitasking?

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ANTant

Hi.

Is anyone having problems recording video from ATI's TV tuner/video in
when multitasking? I believe my system is fast enough to handle this. I
have an Athlon XP 2200+ with 1 GB of RAM, 7200 RPM HDDs (IDE; UDMA 2
and 4), Windows XP Professional SP1 (all updates), and using the latest
ATI's driver and MMC.

When I play back my recorded videos, I notice some scenes are choppy
(video, not audio). Is it because I am multitasking too much during
recording? Or do I have something misconfigured? I was hoping I could
multitask (e.g., basic stuff). All I was doing was checking emails,
Web browsing with Mozilla v1.5, etc.

Thank you in advance.
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Guess Who

How about changing the CPU usage in the MMC software. If you go to the TV
app setup, re-run the initialization wizard. Just keep hitting "next" until
you get to the screen with the Temporary File Settings., the window title is
"TV-On-Demand Initialization Wizard".

At the bottom of this screen is an ADVANCED button. Click this and set the
CPU load to HIGH, also try moving the Video Performance and Image Quality
sliders to midway. This may help things a little, but it probably still is
not a great idea to do anything else while recording.

Also, what type of files are you recording to? That may also make a
difference, especially with the slower hard drives you are using. UDMA2 is
not really fast when it comes to digital video.
 
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ANTant

Guess Who said:
How about changing the CPU usage in the MMC software. If you go to the TV
app setup, re-run the initialization wizard. Just keep hitting "next" until
you get to the screen with the Temporary File Settings., the window title is
"TV-On-Demand Initialization Wizard".
At the bottom of this screen is an ADVANCED button. Click this and set the
CPU load to HIGH, also try moving the Video Performance and Image Quality
sliders to midway. This may help things a little, but it probably still is
not a great idea to do anything else while recording.

I will try that. I belive I did set CPU load to high, but I don't remember.
Are you able to record smoothly during high CPU usage?

Also, what type of files are you recording to? That may also make a
difference, especially with the slower hard drives you are using. UDMA2 is
not really fast when it comes to digital video.

I am recording to ATI VCR files with closed captioning.

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ANTant

I will try that. I belive I did set CPU load to high, but I don't remember.
Are you able to record smoothly during high CPU usage?

I forgot to note that using Good quality (default preset) shows 50%+ CPU usage
in Windows' task manager. Is that normal? I still want high quality video.

I am recording to ATI VCR files with closed captioning.
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Andy

If you don't want to drop frames, you have to dedicate the computer to
capturing and not use it to do other tasks, especially those that
generate lots of interrupts, .e.g, modem over serial port.
 
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ANTant

Hmm, that stinks. That means getting a faster system wouldn't help much.
Thanks for replying.


Andy said:
If you don't want to drop frames, you have to dedicate the computer to
capturing and not use it to do other tasks, especially those that
generate lots of interrupts, .e.g, modem over serial port.
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Flying Circus
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premiersupport

Hi.

Is anyone having problems recording video from ATI's TV tuner/video in
when multitasking? I believe my system is fast enough to handle this. I
have an Athlon XP 2200+ with 1 GB of RAM, 7200 RPM HDDs (IDE; UDMA 2
and 4), Windows XP Professional SP1 (all updates), and using the latest
ATI's driver and MMC.

When I play back my recorded videos, I notice some scenes are choppy
(video, not audio). Is it because I am multitasking too much during
recording? Or do I have something misconfigured? I was hoping I could
multitask (e.g., basic stuff). All I was doing was checking emails,
Web browsing with Mozilla v1.5, etc.

Thank you in advance.

first cause is the hard drives , and having DMA on, some chipsets and the DMA
drivers are problematic. try tuning all components to optimum
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ANTant

first cause is the hard drives , and having DMA on, some chipsets and the DMA
drivers are problematic. try tuning all components to optimum

How do I tune all to optimum? I thought they were optimum already. I
have Hyperion 4in1 driver, all updates, latest BIOS, etc.
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premiersupport

How do I tune all to optimum? I thought they were optimum already. I
have Hyperion 4in1 driver, all updates, latest BIOS, etc.

have you checked in the system icon to see if your IDE controller in on UDMA?

is you hard drive defragged so it has a linear path when writting?

how much memory do you have? how is the harddrive buffers set up?

I'm using a RAID 0 with 3 harddrives hooked up to a Rocketraid 404 and do all
my captures to it, also have the main drive well defragged
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ANTant

How do I tune all to optimum? I thought they were optimum already. I
have Hyperion 4in1 driver, all updates, latest BIOS, etc.
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have you checked in the system icon to see if your IDE controller in on UDMA?

Yep. Primary IDE Channel Properties: UDMA Mode 4 and UDMA Mode 2.
Secondary IDE Channel Properties: UDMA Mode 2 and Multi-Word DMA Mode 2
However, I forgot to mention that the HDD that gets recordings are not
the ones above. It is on the new Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 Plus ST3120026A 120
GB (8 MB cache; 7200 RPM) HDD. According to Promise BIOS, it said UDMA 5.

is you hard drive defragged so it has a linear path when writting?

Yep! I think the last time I defrag this HDD was two weeks ago. Do I need
to do it often? If so, then how often?

how much memory do you have? how is the harddrive buffers set up?

See above for RAM (1 GB). How do I check HDD buffer setups?

I'm using a RAID 0 with 3 harddrives hooked up to a Rocketraid 404 and do all
my captures to it, also have the main drive well defragged
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What's up with all these verisign e-mail addrsses? Very annoying!
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patrickp

What's up with all these verisign e-mail addrsses? Very annoying!
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For the same reason as you ANTispam your email address, Ant. Presumably
he's less than happy with Verisign and is inviting them to a spamfest. Hey,
do ants like spam? ;-)

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ANTant

For the same reason as you ANTispam your email address, Ant. Presumably
he's less than happy with Verisign and is inviting them to a spamfest. Hey,
do ants like spam? ;-)

Oh, what did Verisign do? Ants hate cyberspace spam. ;)
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