cant print black when colour run out epson stylus 950

[Adam Davies]

This maybe a dumb question but here goes.
I have a epson stylus 950 and if I run out of one of the colours the
printer refuses to print until the cartridge has been replaced, I can't
even print out in black (normal or economy), is there anyway of
overriding this as I sometimes forget to buy in spare cartridges and
have to wait 24 hours before my supplier can deliver.

ta

 

[Gary Tait]

This maybe a dumb question but here goes.
I have a epson stylus 950 and if I run out of one of the colours the
printer refuses to print until the cartridge has been replaced, I can't
even print out in black (normal or economy), is there anyway of
overriding this as I sometimes forget to buy in spare cartridges and
have to wait 24 hours before my supplier can deliver.

ta

No. That feature is there to prevent the nozzles from burning out with
lack of ink.

 

[Old Nick]

On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 09:54:38 -0500, Gary Tait
<[email protected]> vaguely proposed a theory
.......and in reply I say!:

You can choose to "print using black ink only". This would surely
prevent nozzle burnout. But it does NOT allow you to print without
full colour cartridges.

There are programmes that allow you to fool the printer into thinking
it's full. They are used for refilling carts that won't allow it.

I have a programme called "ssc service utility" (sscserv.exe), which
will do this for a lot of printers. I am not advocating its use, as I
have no idea of the consequences for your printer, but it will
possibly do the job.

No. That feature is there to prevent the nozzles from burning out with
lack of ink.

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But then I was terrified that maybe there was no plan,
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[Epona]

On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 09:54:38 -0500, Gary Tait
<[email protected]> vaguely proposed a theory
......and in reply I say!:

You can choose to "print using black ink only". This would surely
prevent nozzle burnout. But it does NOT allow you to print without
full colour cartridges.

There are programmes that allow you to fool the printer into thinking
it's full. They are used for refilling carts that won't allow it.

I have a programme called "ssc service utility" (sscserv.exe), which
will do this for a lot of printers. I am not advocating its use, as I
have no idea of the consequences for your printer, but it will
possibly do the job.



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I was frightened by the idea of a conspiracy that was
causing it all.
But then I was terrified that maybe there was no plan,
really. Is this unpleasant mess all a mistake?

Now you know why Single Ink Technology was invented! If one of the colours
runs out on a SIT printer (like most of the new(er) Canons) you can still
print in black. Another good reason for buying a SIT printer.

 

[Mark Herring]

Now you know why Single Ink Technology was invented! If one of the colours
runs out on a SIT printer (like most of the new(er) Canons) you can still
print in black. Another good reason for buying a SIT printer.

1. They all tend to run out at once

2. Do you really save money with SIT?

3. If you watn to save money, go to refilling or continuous feed

Just buy another cart and keep the printer---or give it to a friend.

**************************
Mark Herring, Pasadena, Calif.
Private e-mail: Just say no to "No".

 

[Zermut]

Just buy another cart and keep the printer---or give it to a friend.

**************************
Mark Herring, Pasadena, Calif.
Private e-mail: Just say no to "No".

Are you the same guy who wrote QMail for PCBoard a long time ago?

Zermut

 

[Larry Lynch]

1. They all tend to run out at once

2. Do you really save money with SIT?

3. If you watn to save money, go to refilling or continuous feed

Just buy another cart and keep the printer---or give it to a friend.

**************************
Mark Herring, Pasadena, Calif.
Private e-mail: Just say no to "No".

Most of the Canon printers I use seem to use twice as
much of the LIGHT cyan, and LIGHT Magenta, and yellow as
they do the other colors. So I only need to replace the
empty ones.. It saves some money.

This is also true of my Epson printers,, but when only
one color runs out on the Epson I gotta stop printing
and replace ALL the colors with the T008 T007 carts. It
wastes ink (if you dont re-set and re-fill)

 

[Gary Tait]

On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 09:54:38 -0500, Gary Tait
<[email protected]> vaguely proposed a theory
......and in reply I say!:

You can choose to "print using black ink only". This would surely
prevent nozzle burnout. But it does NOT allow you to print without
full colour cartridges.

Wouldn't prevent the printer from "cleaning" the color nozzles, which
being dry, would burn them out.

There are programmes that allow you to fool the printer into thinking
it's full. They are used for refilling carts that won't allow it.

Same as above.

I have a programme called "ssc service utility" (sscserv.exe), which
will do this for a lot of printers. I am not advocating its use, as I
have no idea of the consequences for your printer, but it will
possibly do the job.

If you want to risk burning out the head.

 

[Mark Herring]

fOn Fri, 09 Jan 2004 17:58:18 GMT, Larry Lynch

Most of the Canon printers I use seem to use twice as
much of the LIGHT cyan, and LIGHT Magenta, and yellow as
they do the other colors. So I only need to replace the
empty ones.. It saves some money.

This is also true of my Epson printers,, but when only
one color runs out on the Epson I gotta stop printing
and replace ALL the colors with the T008 T007 carts. It
wastes ink (if you dont re-set and re-fill)

Interesting--Both my Epsons seem to run down about the same in all
colors---probably has to do with the variety of subject matter being
printed.
**************************
Mark Herring, Pasadena, Calif.
Private e-mail: Just say no to "No".

 

[Mark Herring]

Are you the same guy who wrote QMail for PCBoard a long time ago?

Zermut

No
**************************
Mark Herring, Pasadena, Calif.
Private e-mail: Just say no to "No".

 

[Old Nick]

On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 15:47:21 -0500, Gary Tait
<[email protected]> vaguely proposed a theory
.......and in reply I say!:

It's moot really. the colour head on mine appears irretrievably
clogged anyway.

I will look for single ink tanks, and a printer whose heads come with
the tanks. Epsno's ink is if anything more _expensive_ even without
the head.

If you want to risk burning out the head.

**************************************************** sorry
remove ns from my header address to reply via email

I was frightened by the idea of a conspiracy that was
causing it all.
But then I was terrified that maybe there was no plan,
really. Is this unpleasant mess all a mistake?

 

[Larry Lynch]

Interesting--Both my Epsons seem to run down about the same in all
colors---probably has to do with the variety of subject matter being
printed.
**************************
Mark Herring, Pasadena, Calif.
Private e-mail: Just say no to "No".

The Epson ink carts dont allow you to "see" whats in
them.

If you are going by the ink indicator software, it
ALLWAYS shows the level of the LOWEST color as the level
of all the colors in the color tank.(except of course
the black which is seperate).

It has more to do with the way the firmware measures ink
usage than it does with actuall ink levels (or photo
content).

If you re-fill a few Epson carts (the multi-color ones)
you will see the difference.

On my Epsons (Photo Stylus 825 & 785 EPX) I remove the
cart when the indicator says its empty.

These carts hold approx 10-12 ml of each color.

When they indicate EMPTY they usually can take 8 to 10
ml of Photo Cyan, Photo magenta & yellow, but will
overflow if I try to put in more than 3-5 ml of Magenta
or cyan. This indicates that 2 of the colors are less
than half used when the other three are nearly used up.

The Epson system COUNTS the droplets of ink as they are
used. Whichever ink is used the most is the one that the
utility software uses as a level for all the colors in
the cartridge.

 

[Mark Herring]

The Epson system COUNTS the droplets of ink as they are
used. Whichever ink is used the most is the one that the
utility software uses as a level for all the colors in
the cartridge.

Now there is a revelation!!! I will confirm that when I deploy my new
MIS refill kits.

Retract previous erroneous assertions.........
**************************
Mark Herring, Pasadena, Calif.
Private e-mail: Just say no to "No".

 

[Old Nick]

On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 17:11:58 -0800, Mark Herring
<[email protected]> vaguely proposed a theory
.......and in reply I say!:

Sorry. When you suggest I should say "no" to "No", which particular

No
**************************
Mark Herring, Pasadena, Calif.
Private e-mail: Just say no to "No".

**************************************************** sorry
remove ns from my header address to reply via email

I was frightened by the idea of a conspiracy that was
causing it all.
But then I was terrified that maybe there was no plan,
really. Is this unpleasant mess all a mistake?

 

[Gary Tait]

On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 15:47:21 -0500, Gary Tait
<[email protected]> vaguely proposed a theory
......and in reply I say!:

It's moot really. the colour head on mine appears irretrievably
clogged anyway.

I will look for single ink tanks, and a printer whose heads come with
the tanks. Epsno's ink is if anything more _expensive_ even without
the head.

That leaves HP and Lexmark (and who knows who else), HP being my
preference of the two, I don't know which, if any of their (or
lexmark, or any other integrated head makes) printers, have separate
colour carts.

 

[Larry Lynch]

Now there is a revelation!!! I will confirm that when I deploy my new
MIS refill kits.

Retract previous erroneous assertions.........
**************************
Mark Herring, Pasadena, Calif.
Private e-mail: Just say no to "No".

Do be carefull not to overflow the Magenta and cyan
sections as they can EASILY contaminate the other colors
through the vent holes (dammit!)

I did it once or twice before I learned to go REALLY
slow putting in the ink.

Its not as easy to overflow the lt cyan and lt magenta
as they do tend to be closer to truly empty.