Can't Connect

[Jose Antonio]

Hello everybody, this is tehr first time i post anything,
so be patient
I have a Novell Network with 20 PC'S, everything works
fine, also i have one PC connected to internet the ip of
this computer is 192.168.0.84, all the computers connect
to internet via this PC, i put this ip address as a
default gateway and the dns form the isp.
Now I'm trying to install a 2000 server, I setup users and
passwords, shares, etc Also installed the gateway for
netware and ipx transport, all the computers have static
ip´s.
When trying to connect to 2000 server the followin message
appears "the password is incorrect or access to server
denied".
I unistall the netware client and use the Microsoft Client
set to login to a domain. and the same problem. Once i did
connect with the server but after reboot, culdn't
reconnect. Sometimes i can see ther server in the
Neiborghood but when i doubleclick on it, says "the
resource dosn't exist".
I remove the gateway and dns from one PC'S but is the same.
I can see the workgroups from the 2000 server an access
the shares
All my clients are win98 se

I found in the event viewer some notes as follows :

Event Type: Warning
Event Source: NETLOGON
Event Category: None
Event ID: 5781
Date: 19/11/2003
Time: 04:09:06 p.m.
User: N/A
Computer: SERVER
Description:
Dynamic registration or deregistration of one or more DNS
records failed because no DNS servers are available.
Data:
0000: 2a 23 00 00 *#..


Event Type: Error
Event Source: w32time
Event Category: None
Event ID: 62
Date: 19/11/2003
Time: 04:54:55 p.m.
User: N/A
Computer: SERVER
Description:
This Machine is a PDC of the domain at the root of the
forest. Configure to sync from External time source using
the net command, 'net time /setsntp:<server name>'.
Data:
0000: e5 03 00 00 å...



The problem continue even if i use the admin account
Tanks in advance for your help and sorry if my english
writing is not so good

 

[Guest]

Hello Marina, thanks for your answer, and sorry for the late reply, but i couldn't see your response in the discussion group yesterday. You hav nicely answer to my post, i have seen many of your answers and i think you know what are you talking about, so thanks god for conntact me with Marina
Hope you can help me because nobody has done it yet

Let me tell you the news
I remove the default gateway in one pc ( it had 192.168.0.84), remove the dns in the 2000 srvr, an put 127.0.0.0, now i can connect from the station, also i can "see" the netware server from the 2000 srvr but not from the station. I can't browse the internet from the station or from the 2000 srvr if i don't put 192.168.0.84 as a default gateway and the isp dns
What can i do ?, also i need that my station colud connect with netware but i don't now how to do it
thanks in advance
All the stations have static ip addresses, and i havent setup dhcp in the 2000 srvr.
Do i need setup a DHCP service in the 2000 srvr even if my all stations have static ip addresses

 

[Marina Roos]

Hi Jose,

DNS on your servernic(s) should point to your server-IP only.
It's much nicer to install DHCP on the server and push all the necessary
settings automatically to your clients. It will push the gateway, DNS and
WINS (if you have W9x, ME or NT4-clients).

Marina

Hello Marina, thanks for your answer, and sorry for the late reply, but i

couldn't see your response in the discussion group yesterday. You hav nicely
answer to my post, i have seen many of your answers and i think you know
what are you talking about, so thanks god for conntact me with Marina.

Hope you can help me because nobody has done it yet.

Let me tell you the news :
I remove the default gateway in one pc ( it had 192.168.0.84), remove the

dns in the 2000 srvr, an put 127.0.0.0, now i can connect from the station,
also i can "see" the netware server from the 2000 srvr but not from the
station. I can't browse the internet from the station or from the 2000 srvr
if i don't put 192.168.0.84 as a default gateway and the isp dns.

 

[Guest]

Why do i need wins for clients w98se ? do i have to install wins on the 2000 srvr or in the stations ? or both
and why i can´t "see" the netware server from my stations if i connect with the 2000 ? how can i solve this problem
José Antonio

 

[Marina Roos]

Yes Jose, W9x still needs WINS. Install it on the server.
Add options 044 and 046 (0x8) to DHCP-server, Scope options.
Did you load the client for netware on the clients?

Marina

Why do i need wins for clients w98se ? do i have to install wins on the

2000 srvr or in the stations ? or both?

and why i can´t "see" the netware server from my stations if i connect

with the 2000 ? how can i solve this problem ?

 

[Guest]

Thank you so much for your answer.
Yes I already setup the Microsoft client for netware on the station and now i can see the netware server. I have done a lot of work, now i have this two events on the event viewer :

Event Type: Warning
Event Source: NETLOGON
Event Category: None
Event ID: 5781
Date: 27/11/2003
Time: 05:59:16 p.m.
User: N/A
Computer: SERVER
Description:
Dynamic registration or deregistration of one or more DNS records failed because no DNS servers are available.
Data:
0000: 2a 23 00 00 *#..

and
Event Type: Information
Event Source: BROWSER
Event Category: None
Event ID: 8015
Date: 27/11/2003
Time: 05:59:18 p.m.
User: N/A
Computer: SERVER
Description:
The browser has forced an election on network \Device\NwlnkNb because a Windows 2000 Server (or domain master) browser is started.

 

[Marina Roos]

Hi Jose,

Check your DNS-server configuration:

TCP/IP settings

Internal nic:
1.) Right click "My network places" and select Properties.
2.) For the LAN connection right click and select Properties.
3.) On the properties page double click TCP/IP.
4.) On the internal nic (when using 2 nics) the gateway should be blank. At
the bottom of the protocols page select Preferred DNS Server option and
enter the IP address for the server itself. Leave the alternate DNS server
IP blank.
5.) On the DNS-tab, verify that the only DNS server is the servers internal
IP address. Make sure the "Append parent suffixes of the primary DNS suffix"
and "Register this connection's address in DNS" selection are checked.
6.) On the WINS-tab, verify that the WINS address is the servers internal IP
address. Verify that "Enable LMHOSTS lookup" is checked and that "Enable
NetBIOS over TCP/IP" is selected.

External nic:
1.) Right click "My network places" and select Properties.
2.) For the WAN connection right click and select Properties.
3.) On the properties page double click TCP/IP.
4.) The IP should be in a different range from the internal nic. At the
bottom of the protocols page select Preferred DNS Server option and enter
the IP address for the server itself. Leave the alternate DNS server IP
blank.
5.) On the DNS-tab, verify that the only DNS server is the servers internal
IP address. Make sure the "Append parent suffixes of the primary DNS suffix"
and "Register this connection's address in DNS" selection are unchecked.
6.) On the WINS-tab, verify that there are no WINS addresses listed. Verify
that "Enable LMHOSTS lookup" is checked and that "Disable NetBIOS over
TCP/IP" is selected. This will have the effect of allowing only the internal
nic to register with WINS. NetBIOS packets are blocked by internet routers,
so no NetBIOS over TCP/IP should be permitted on the external nic.


DNS settings

1.) Open up the DNS console.
2.) Once opened, right click on the server in the right hand pane and select
Properties.
3.) On the Interfaces tab, set the server to listen only on its internal IP
Address.
4.) On the "Forwarders" tab, check the "Enable forwarders" selection at the
top.
5.) Add the ISP-DNS-numbers and click Apply. (note- In the TCP/IP settings,
we selected the choice for DNS to point to itself. If name resolution
cannot be resolved then a request is made to the forwarders. If resolution
cannot be made via the internal DNS and there are no forwarders listed, then
resolution will be made via the root hints.)
6.) On the Monitoring tab, select simple and recursive test types and click
the Test now button. Both types should pass. Uncheck test types, click
Apply, then click OK.
7.) Expand the containers beneath the servers name and click on the Reverse
lookup zone subnet. It should correspond to the network ID of the LAN with
an "x" in the last octet. If one is not present, create a Reverse lookup
zone, type Active Directory Integrated.
8.) Verify that the server has a pointer record listed for its own IP.
9.) Bring up the properties of the Reverse Lookup Zone subnet.
10.) Click on the Name Servers tab. Verify that the nameserver is the
servers FQDN with only the internal IP address listed.
11.) Click on the WINS-R tab. Enable WINS reverse lookup and enter the
domainname.
12.) Click on the General tab and set "Allow dynamic updates?" to yes.
13.) Click Apply, clik OK.
14.) Click on the "Forward Lookup Zone" beneath the container Forward Lookup
Zones.
15.) Delete any record which is not on the local internal subnet. If there
is a folder with a dot "." listed then delete it. (note- This indicates to
the server that it is the root server, which means do not go beyond this
server for name resolution.)
16.) Bring up the properties of the Forward Lookup Zone.
17.) Click on the Name Servers tab. Verify that the nameserver is the
servers FQDN with only the internal IP address listed.
18.) Click on the WINS-R tab. Enable WINS forward lookup and enter the
servers internal IP address and click the Add button.
19.) Click on the General tab and set "Allow dynamic updates?" to yes.
20.) Click Apply, clik OK.
21.) Restart DNS-server.

Open up a command prompt and type the following:

1.) At the prompt type "ipconfig /flushdns" and wait for the services to
flush.
2.) "ipconfig /registerdns" and wait for the services to register.
3.) net stop netlogon
4.) net start netlogon

Once all of this is done, open the DNS console again. Expand the Forward
lookup zones, then expand the domain folder. You should see the underscore
folders below:

_msdcs
_sites
_tcp
_udp

Marina

Thank you so much for your answer.
Yes I already setup the Microsoft client for netware on the station and

now i can see the netware server. I have done a lot of work, now i have this
two events on the event viewer :

Event Type: Warning
Event Source: NETLOGON
Event Category: None
Event ID: 5781
Date: 27/11/2003
Time: 05:59:16 p.m.
User: N/A
Computer: SERVER
Description:
Dynamic registration or deregistration of one or more DNS records failed

because no DNS servers are available.

Data:
0000: 2a 23 00 00 *#..

and
Event Type: Information
Event Source: BROWSER
Event Category: None
Event ID: 8015
Date: 27/11/2003
Time: 05:59:18 p.m.
User: N/A
Computer: SERVER
Description:
The browser has forced an election on network \Device\NwlnkNb because a

Windows 2000 Server (or domain master) browser is started.

 

[Guest]

Thank you for the explicit answer, i'll do it as soon as posible, sorry for the late response,it's because i'm not at this office all the time, so please excuse me.

 

[Guest]

I already try to do as you explain, but :

ijust have 1 nic
when a try to select "enable forwarders" the check box is unavailable and on the top is a text that says :
that forwarders can´t be enable because thiis is at the top of the forest.
If i use dcpromo then how are the users to log on this server ?
please helpme i'm really tired with this thing, and as i'm iletrated in 2000 srvr....

 

[Marina Roos]

Then you'll just have to delete the "." in the Forward Lookup Zones.
Then try to enable forwarders again.
After making changes to DNS-server, make sure you restart it.
Haven't got the history of this thread anymore, so why are you talking about
dcpromo?

Marina

I already try to do as you explain, but :

ijust have 1 nic
when a try to select "enable forwarders" the check box is unavailable and

that forwarders can´t be enable because thiis is at the top of the forest.
If i use dcpromo then how are the users to log on this server ?
please helpme i'm really tired with this thing, and as i'm iletrated in

2000 srvr....

 

[Guest]

I did the TCP/IP internal NIc part as you told me, and there was no proble
Didn't the external nic par
I did the DNS settings and did the test but just the simple test is Pass, i put as a gateway the ip address of the pc that has installed the internet sharing connection (w98) and the simple and recursive test were pass
is it ok ? note (remember that i have a station that performs the internet connection and is sharing it ).
in the reverse lookup zone is empty and a wizard for create a new zone appears and allow me to create an active Directory integrated. but i have to write a network id ¿which is it?, if i write the ip address of the station with the internet connection can't write the 0 for 192.168.0.84
On the No. 10 you say "verify that the nameserver is the servers FQDN ..." what is that ?, sorry i really don´t understand thi

 

[Marina Roos]

Hi Jose,

The W98 shouldn't be doing the internet sharing. Your server should take
care but not with ICS.

How are you connecting to the internet?
Can you post the ipconfig/all from the server please?

How is your AD-domainname called (something like company.local?)?

Marina

I did the TCP/IP internal NIc part as you told me, and there was no problem
Didn't the external nic part
I did the DNS settings and did the test but just the simple test is Pass,

i put as a gateway the ip address of the pc that has installed the internet
sharing connection (w98) and the simple and recursive test were pass.

is it ok ? note (remember that i have a station that performs the internet

connection and is sharing it ).

in the reverse lookup zone is empty and a wizard for create a new zone

appears and allow me to create an active Directory integrated. but i have to
write a network id ¿which is it?, if i write the ip address of the station
with the internet connection can't write the 0 for 192.168.0.84.

On the No. 10 you say "verify that the nameserver is the servers FQDN ..."

what is that ?, sorry i really don´t understand this

 

[Jose Antonio]

Hi Marina :
Today i can't work on that net, but on Friday i'll answer
you, and explain why are we doing the sharing with w98,
and post the ipconfig.
Maybe on Thursday
Kindest regards

 

[Marina Roos]

Hi Jose,

Fine. I'll be checking here regularly.

Marina

"Jose Antonio" <[email protected]> schreef in
bericht Hi Marina :
Today i can't work on that net, but on Friday i'll answer
you, and explain why are we doing the sharing with w98,
and post the ipconfig.
Maybe on Thursday
Kindest regards

 

[Guest]

Hi Marina, i've done my homework, now i can connect, let me tell you the changes i,ve made
put my w98 station with internet sharing connection in Workgroup ventas. Put on all other stations both novell and microsoft clients, put them on the workgroup ventas. Put on them default gateway 192.168.0.84, and the isp dns.
and that's it, anyway i'm still having some problems, because from time to time my sations report thar my password is invalid, and can't connect with 2000 srvr ventas.
Still i don't know if the last changes you toldme (about the reverse lookup zone) is working.
as you ask me here is the ipconfig/all from the w98 ?
Why you say that i shouldn't be using a w98 with icshare for internet ?, what problems do I have ?

IPCONFIG/ALL W98 ICSHARE

Configuración IP de Windows 98

Nombre del host . . . . . . . . . : SERVERINT
Servidores DNS . . . . . . . . : 200.33.146.209
200.33.146.217
Tipo de nodo . . . . . . . . . : Difusión
Id. de ámbito NetBIOS. . . . . . :
Enrutamiento IP activado. . . . . : Sí
WINS Proxy activado. . . . . : No
Resolución NetBIOS usa DNS : No

Ethernet adaptador :

Descripción . . . . . . . . : PPP Adapter.
Dirección física. . . . . . : 44-45-53-54-00-01
DHCP activado. . . . . . . . : Sí
Dirección IP. . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
Máscara de subred . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
Puerta de enlace predeterminada . . . . . . :
Servidor DHCP . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
Servidor WINS primario . . . . :
Servidor WINS secundario . . . :
Permiso obtenido. . . . . . . :
Permiso caduca . . . . . . . :

Ethernet adaptador :

Descripción . . . . . . . . : SiS NIC SISNIC
Dirección física. . . . . . : 00-0A-E6-27-51-2D
DHCP activado. . . . . . . . : No
Dirección IP. . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.84
Máscara de subred . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Puerta de enlace predeterminada . . . . . . :
Servidor WINS primario . . . . :
Servidor WINS secundario . . . :
Permiso obtenido. . . . . . . :
Permiso caduca . . . . . . . :

Ethernet adaptador :

Descripción . . . . . . . . : ICSHARE Adapter.
Dirección física. . . . . . : 44-45-53-54-00-00
DHCP activado. . . . . . . . : Sí
Dirección IP. . . . . . . . . : 200.95.25.156
Máscara de subred . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Puerta de enlace predeterminada . . . . . . : 200.95.25.156
Servidor DHCP . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
Servidor WINS primario . . . . :
Servidor WINS secundario . . . :
Permiso obtenido. . . . . . . : 01 01 80 12:00:00 a.m.
Permiso caduca . . . . . . . : 01 01 80 12:00:00 a.m.

 

[Marina Roos]

Hi Jose,

You have a server, so let it do all the serving including internet.
Is this a modem or router or what that you are using to get to the internet?

Put a second nic in the server, attach it to a router and let the router
make the connection to the internet.
Your internal nic on the server would be something like:
IP 192.168.0.2
GW blank
DNS 192.168.0.2

External nic:
IP 10.0.0.2
GW 10.0.0.3 (which will be the IP of the router)
DNS 192.168.0.2
External nic should only have TCP/IP bound to it and in the advanced
properties, tab DNS it should NOT register in DNS and the suffix should NOT
be added.

Check the bindingorder in Network Connections, Advanced, advanced and make
sure that the internal nic is on top.

In DNS-server, tab forwarders you put the ISP-DNS-numbers.

Marina

Hi Marina, i've done my homework, now i can connect, let me tell you the changes i,ve made
put my w98 station with internet sharing connection in Workgroup ventas.

Put on all other stations both novell and microsoft clients, put them on the
workgroup ventas. Put on them default gateway 192.168.0.84, and the isp dns.

and that's it, anyway i'm still having some problems, because from time to

time my sations report thar my password is invalid, and can't connect with
2000 srvr ventas.

 

[Guest]

Hi Marina, we are thinking about buying an internet router and make the connection to internet as you told me, meanwhile i have to work with the pc w98
In general words my 2000 srvr is working, still have some error messages from time to time
Thankyou for all your help, and if i need a real help i wiil look for you, hope you do'nt mind
by the way ¡ is there a problem with 2003 srvr and 2000 ? i read something about incompatibility in domains
best regard
Jose Antonio

 

[Marina Roos]

Hi Jose,

It really is much better and easier to let your server handle the internet
for your clients.

No, there shouldn't be a problem with 2003 Server. What kind of problems are
you talking about?

Marina

Hi Marina, we are thinking about buying an internet router and make the

connection to internet as you told me, meanwhile i have to work with the pc
w98.

In general words my 2000 srvr is working, still have some error messages from time to time.
Thankyou for all your help, and if i need a real help i wiil look for you, hope you do'nt mind.
by the way ¡ is there a problem with 2003 srvr and 2000 ? i read something

about incompatibility in domains ?