>Can't access XP Home on wireless LAN @ home<

W

Wayne B.

I have an XP Home laptop that's in a wireless home
network. It was in the default workgroup 'mshome' and I
wasn't able to access the workgroup when I clicked 'view
workgroup computers' within the 'my network places'
window. I would get the message "Mshome is not
accessible. You might not have permission to use this
network resource. etc, etc.." I changed the workgroup
to 'home' and now it tells me the same thing but it now
says specifies 'home' instead of 'mshome'.

I have an XP Pro desktop that's also connected wirelessly
to the network. (in the 'home' workgroup) NOW... when
the laptop was in 'mshome' the desktop was not able to
get access to that workgroup and would get the same error
message. Now that the laptop is in 'Home', the desktop
can see the laptop within 'Home' but when I try to open
it I get "\\laptop-name is not accessible. Etc, etc..."

I assume that something needs to be reconfigured on the
XP Home laptop, but I haven't the foggiest idea of what
it should be. Could anyone give me the heads-up on what
it is that I need to do to get this laptop to cooperate.

THANX N ADVANCE. The Rookie/Wayne B.
 
L

Lou Ramsey

Carey said:

From the website:

If you want your network to work properly, you must follow each step
exactly. No excuses! Regardless if you are using Windows XP or wireless
network cards or if these steps make no sense to you. Many of the steps
apply to all versions of Windows, so regardless of your version of
Windows, I suggest you follow each step, word-for-word on each PC.

TIP #1: HOW TO RESET YOUR NETWORKING CONFIGURATION

If you are using a crossover cable, be aware that they do not always
work and many manufacturers will void your warranty if they discover you
were using one. A hub, switch or router can cost as little as $10 and
save you hours of frustration. PLEASE NOTE: USING A CROSSOVER CABLE IS
NOT RECOMMENDED!
1) For all Windows ME PCs, download and install the networking patch
(whether you think you need it or not, it won’t hurt anything) from
Microsoft at http://www.support.microsoft.com/?kbid=272991

2) Go into your Control Panel and double-click on the Network icon. Make
sure you have the following items installed:

* Client for Microsoft Networks
* Your Network adapter
* TCP/IP
* IPX/SPX
* File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks

3) If IPX/SPX is not listed, please take the time to install it now. If
IPX/SPX and/or Netbeui are not listed as available protocols, please see
Tip #2 further down this page.

<SNIP>

TIP #2: What is a crossover cable?

A cable's job is to send and receive data. If pins 1 and 2 send data and
pins 3 and 6 receive data, when you plug this cable directory from one
PC into another PC, the PC’s will each attempt to send data on Pins 1
and 2 at the same time. Neither PC will receive any data. A crossover
cable reverses the wiring on one end of the cable so that the send wires
on one side become the receive wires on the other side. An inexpensive
hub, switch or router will do this for you without the need for special
wiring. Explained in detail here.

PLEASE NOTE: USING A CROSSOVER CABLE IS NOT RECOMMENDED! Crossover
cables exist for the sole purpose of connecting one hub/switch/router to
another hub/switch/router. Any other use of a crossover cable is not
recommended. More details can be found here: Linksys Knowledge Base

Carey,

Why do you continually recommend that everybody who wants their network
to work properly, install IPX / SPX, and Netbeui?

You need just these items:
* Your network adapter.
* Client for Microsoft Networks
* File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks
* NetBIOS Over TCP/IP (For XP, "TCP/IP" with NBT selected under TCP/IP
Properties)

http://support.microsoft.com/?id=128233

Please stop recommending installation of redundant network components.

Also, please look at Tip #1 Step 3, which references Tip #2. What the
fsck does a crossover cable have to do with IPX/SPX and/or Netbeui?
 
L

Lou Ramsey

Carey said:
Where do you see a recommendation to install NetBeui?

At the time I read the website:

==========

<SNIP>

Common Problems and Solutions:

1. How to reset your networking configuration
2. What is a crossover cable
3. What to do when Internet Explorer won't find any pages ("Cannot
find server" error)
4. How to solve the "cannot browse network" problem after
double-clicking on "my network places" then "entire network".
5. If you can see the workgroup listed in My Network Places, but
after double-clicking it, you see an empty window.
6. NetBEUI and/or IPX/SPX are not in the list of network protocols
available

<SNIP>

TIP #1: HOW TO RESET YOUR NETWORKING CONFIGURATION

If you are using a crossover cable, be aware that they do not always
work and many manufacturers will void your warranty if they discover you
were using one. A hub, switch or router can cost as little as $10 and
save you hours of frustration. PLEASE NOTE: USING A CROSSOVER CABLE IS
NOT RECOMMENDED!
1) For all Windows ME PCs, download and install the networking patch
(whether you think you need it or not, it won’t hurt anything) from
Microsoft at http://www.support.microsoft.com/?kbid=272991

2) Go into your Control Panel and double-click on the Network icon. Make
sure you have the following items installed:

* Client for Microsoft Networks
* Your Network adapter
* TCP/IP
* IPX/SPX
* File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks

3) If IPX/SPX is not listed, please take the time to install it now. If
IPX/SPX and/or Netbeui are not listed as available protocols, please see
Tip #2 further down this page.

<SNIP>

TIP #5: If you can see the workgroup listed in My Network Places, but
after double-clicking it, you see an empty window:

1) Apply the same steps as in Tip #4 or…

2) See if you can do a Search for the PCs by their name. Also try to
ping each PC. If that functions correctly, the problem might be that
during the set up of the Home Networking Wizard, Microsoft somehow
renames your Workgroup to be "Mshome" (the default value) EVEN IF you
have specified your own name. Here is the fix:

3) Click Start, click Run, type REGEDIT (hit enter)

4) Find "Mshome" (which should be in My
Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\VxD\VNETSUP)

5) Right click on Workgroup (on the right hand panel) -> Modify- Change
the "Value Data" to whatever your workgroup name is.

6) If that does not work, you might also try adding these lines to your
registry:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Network\RealMode
Net]
" preferredredir"="nwredir"
" Autologon"="1"
" transport"="*nwlink,*netbeui,"
" netcard"=""

TIP #6: NetBEUI and/or IPX/SPX are not in the list of network protocols
available

1) Click Start, click Run, type MSCONFIG (hit enter)

2) Click the button labeled “Extract File…”

3) For the name of the file you want to restore, type NETBW.INF.

4) Restore from your Windows Millennium CD (if your CD is your D: drive,
type: D:\WIN9X).

5) Save File In: C:\WINDOWS\INF

6) Once the file is restored, repeat this process with NETTRANS.INF
(during Step 3), and then once more with RPCLTC5.DLL (during Step 3),
only extract this last file to C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM (during Step 5).

7) Back in your network properties, click Add, click Protocol, click
Add, click the Have Disk button, click the Browse button, go to
C:\Windows\Inf and on the left you should see NETTRANS.INF, click once
on it and click OK. NetBEUI and/or IPX/SPX should now be listed as
available protocol options in your network properties.

8) This information is now covered in a Microsoft KnowledgeBase article:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=193637

==========
 
S

Steve Winograd [MVP]

"Wayne B." said:
I have an XP Home laptop that's in a wireless home
network. It was in the default workgroup 'mshome' and I
wasn't able to access the workgroup when I clicked 'view
workgroup computers' within the 'my network places'
window. I would get the message "Mshome is not
accessible. You might not have permission to use this
network resource. etc, etc.." I changed the workgroup
to 'home' and now it tells me the same thing but it now
says specifies 'home' instead of 'mshome'.

I have an XP Pro desktop that's also connected wirelessly
to the network. (in the 'home' workgroup) NOW... when
the laptop was in 'mshome' the desktop was not able to
get access to that workgroup and would get the same error
message. Now that the laptop is in 'Home', the desktop
can see the laptop within 'Home' but when I try to open
it I get "\\laptop-name is not accessible. Etc, etc..."

I assume that something needs to be reconfigured on the
XP Home laptop, but I haven't the foggiest idea of what
it should be. Could anyone give me the heads-up on what
it is that I need to do to get this laptop to cooperate.

THANX N ADVANCE. The Rookie/Wayne B.

Don't waste your time going through a long list of complicated steps
that don't apply to Windows XP.

These steps, which specifically apply to Windows XP, should help you
get everything working:

1. Permanently disable XP's (original and Service Pack 1) built-in
Internet Connection Firewall on local area network connections -- it's
for use only on a direct modem connection to the Internet. Disable
and un-install all other firewall programs while troubleshooting.
When un-installing a firewall program, use the un-install procedure
provided by the manufacturer . Don't use Control Panel | Add or
Remove Programs, which might not completely un-install it.

For more information, see:

Windows XP Internet Connection Firewall
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp/ic_firewall.htm

2. Use only one protocol for File and Printer Sharing. If the network
needs more than one protocol, unbind File and Printer Sharing from all
but one of them. Details here:

Windows XP Network Protocols
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp/network_protocols.htm

3. Make sure that NetBIOS over TCP/IP is enabled on all computers.
Details here:

Enable NetBIOS Over TCP/IP (NetBT)
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/troubleshoot/netbt.htm

4. Run "ipconfig /all" on XP and look at the "Node Type" at the
beginning of the output. If it says "Peer-to-Peer" (which should
actually be "Point-to-Point") that's the problem. It means that the
computer only uses a WINS server, which isn't available on a
peer-to-peer network, for NetBIOS name resolution.

If that's the case, run the registry editor, open this key:

HLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Netbt\Parameters

and delete these values if they're present:

NodeType
DhcpNodeType

Reboot, then try network access again.

If that doesn't fix it, open that registry key again, create a DWORD
value called "NodeType", and set it to 1 for "Broadcast" or 4 for
"Mixed".

For details, see these Microsoft Knowledge Base articles:

Default Node Type for Microsoft Clients
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;160177

TCP/IP and NBT Configuration Parameters for Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;314053
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
 
C

Carey Holzman

Sorry, but I don't understand. Where are you reading that NetBeui should be
installed?

Carey

Lou Ramsey said:
Carey said:
Where do you see a recommendation to install NetBeui?

At the time I read the website:

==========

<SNIP>

Common Problems and Solutions:

1. How to reset your networking configuration
2. What is a crossover cable
3. What to do when Internet Explorer won't find any pages ("Cannot find
server" error)
4. How to solve the "cannot browse network" problem after
double-clicking on "my network places" then "entire network".
5. If you can see the workgroup listed in My Network Places, but after
double-clicking it, you see an empty window.
6. NetBEUI and/or IPX/SPX are not in the list of network protocols
available

<SNIP>

TIP #1: HOW TO RESET YOUR NETWORKING CONFIGURATION

If you are using a crossover cable, be aware that they do not always work
and many manufacturers will void your warranty if they discover you were
using one. A hub, switch or router can cost as little as $10 and save you
hours of frustration. PLEASE NOTE: USING A CROSSOVER CABLE IS NOT
RECOMMENDED!
1) For all Windows ME PCs, download and install the networking patch
(whether you think you need it or not, it won’t hurt anything) from
Microsoft at http://www.support.microsoft.com/?kbid=272991

2) Go into your Control Panel and double-click on the Network icon. Make
sure you have the following items installed:

* Client for Microsoft Networks
* Your Network adapter
* TCP/IP
* IPX/SPX
* File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks

3) If IPX/SPX is not listed, please take the time to install it now. If
IPX/SPX and/or Netbeui are not listed as available protocols, please see
Tip #2 further down this page.

<SNIP>

TIP #5: If you can see the workgroup listed in My Network Places, but
after double-clicking it, you see an empty window:

1) Apply the same steps as in Tip #4 or…

2) See if you can do a Search for the PCs by their name. Also try to ping
each PC. If that functions correctly, the problem might be that during the
set up of the Home Networking Wizard, Microsoft somehow renames your
Workgroup to be "Mshome" (the default value) EVEN IF you have specified
your own name. Here is the fix:

3) Click Start, click Run, type REGEDIT (hit enter)

4) Find "Mshome" (which should be in My
Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\VxD\VNETSUP)

5) Right click on Workgroup (on the right hand panel) -> Modify- Change
the "Value Data" to whatever your workgroup name is.

6) If that does not work, you might also try adding these lines to your
registry:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Network\RealMode
Net]
" preferredredir"="nwredir"
" Autologon"="1"
" transport"="*nwlink,*netbeui,"
" netcard"=""

TIP #6: NetBEUI and/or IPX/SPX are not in the list of network protocols
available

1) Click Start, click Run, type MSCONFIG (hit enter)

2) Click the button labeled “Extract File…”

3) For the name of the file you want to restore, type NETBW.INF.

4) Restore from your Windows Millennium CD (if your CD is your D: drive,
type: D:\WIN9X).

5) Save File In: C:\WINDOWS\INF

6) Once the file is restored, repeat this process with NETTRANS.INF
(during Step 3), and then once more with RPCLTC5.DLL (during Step 3), only
extract this last file to C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM (during Step 5).

7) Back in your network properties, click Add, click Protocol, click Add,
click the Have Disk button, click the Browse button, go to C:\Windows\Inf
and on the left you should see NETTRANS.INF, click once on it and click
OK. NetBEUI and/or IPX/SPX should now be listed as available protocol
options in your network properties.

8) This information is now covered in a Microsoft KnowledgeBase article:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=193637

==========
 

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