Canon i965 CD-R tray feeder problem, anyone know how to fix this?

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AJ

I have been printing more than 300 CD and DVD labels using Canon i965
that has CD-R tray feeder, but the feeder is making kinda tardy noise
and the print head can't read the disk properly, an error message
popped up saying the printing is fail, have tried a number of times,
changed positions of the disk on the tray, didn't work, turned off
machine and restated, the noise is still there, and I still can't get
any disks to print. Does anyone know how to fix this?
 
M

measekite

AJ said:
I have been printing more than 300 CD and DVD labels using Canon i965
that has CD-R tray feeder, but the feeder is making kinda tardy noise
and the print head can't read the disk properly, an error message
popped up saying the printing is fail, have tried a number of times,
changed positions of the disk on the tray, didn't work, turned off
machine and restated, the noise is still there, and I still can't get
any disks to print. Does anyone know how to fix this?
I THINK CANON DOES.
 
S

SleeperMan

AJ said:
I have been printing more than 300 CD and DVD labels using Canon i965
that has CD-R tray feeder, but the feeder is making kinda tardy noise
and the print head can't read the disk properly, an error message
popped up saying the printing is fail, have tried a number of times,
changed positions of the disk on the tray, didn't work, turned off
machine and restated, the noise is still there, and I still can't get
any disks to print. Does anyone know how to fix this?

It seems like mechanical problem... it's all just plastic...also check out
those mirror tabs if they are in good state.
If it's mechanical...then i fear it's gone away... you can take it apart and
see, maybe it's just something fellinto printer and it's jamming the tray.
or you can ask local service for advice, since it's a good printer.
 
A

AJ

Thank you, I hope it is easy to take apart and re essemble them into
one good piece, will try, and I shall let everyone know.
 
A

AJ

I know Canon knows how, but I am hesitated to send to their service
that will take so long to get it back, and the local technician is
charging quite a lot, if this could be DIY kinda thing, I'd love to do
so.
 
Z

zakezuke

Thank you, I hope it is easy to take apart and re essemble them into
one good piece, will try, and I shall let everyone know.

http://www.druckerchannel.de/artikel.php?ID=1137&seite=1

TRAY GUIDE UNIT PN: QM2-0626-000
CDR TRAY ASS PN: QL2-0348-000
TRAY, CD SUB PN: QA4-1117-000

I have nothing really useful to add on the i965... while it would have
been my first choice for printers, the lack of CD printing support in
america and the lack of availablity of the above parts lead me to the
newer pixma series... a unit with a built in "tray guide unit". I lack
any direct experence with your printer, only one german page with the
approperate part numbers should you need to order them. Should you
diagnose your issue to either tray type a or the tray guide unit, think
about ordering a pair and e-baying the part to a Yank.

http://pixma.webpal.info/i960/index.htm

Knightcrawler's brief page on the i960 to i965 conversion. It's not
very detailed but does illistrate how to remove the guide unit.

PS. Should you have the time, it would be very handy if you could scan
your tray. Us yanks have never seen "tray type A" and would be most
useful.
 
A

AJ

Thanks zakezuke, the German link is kinda useful for me to open the
box, but for the circuits - I have no idea what it said, because google
only translated half of the page for me. Unfortunately I don't have a
scanner to scan the tray and it is black, you can hardly see anything
ie blocks only the shape and the shiney metal thing on the tray. The
shape is exact as displayed on that link, a little bit different from
pixma series. Anyway I tried my very basic thing by scraping the
scratched marks under the tray = smooth it up, it works for a few disks
and back to the same problem again, now I have absolute no idea what to
do with it, except to open the box to see if any dust or hair or etc
stuck in there, May God be with my hands.
 
Z

zakezuke

Thanks zakezuke, the German link is kinda useful for me to open the
box, but for the circuits - I have no idea what it said

The circuits IIRC are for users of the i860, i960 or i990 printer who
wish to make it into what you already own, the i865, 965, i995. It's
no more useful than you have already seen since you own the i965.
Anyway I tried my very basic thing by scraping the
scratched marks under the tray = smooth it up, it works for a few disks
and back to the same problem again, now I have absolute no idea what to
do with it,

It sounds like you've diagnosed the problem... and it's tray related.
One wouldn't be foolish just ordering up a " CDR TRAY ASS PN:
QL2-0348-000" from canon.

http://www.canon.com.au/support/spares_agents.html

It shouldn't be more than AUD $15.00 and if it turns out to be a flop
sell it on e-bay. Tray type B, for the early pixma series, fetchs 3
times that by american users who need one. I have NO idea how much
tray type A like you use would fetch but as these service centers won't
sell directly to yanks your investigation might result in extra cash.
 
A

AJ

You are so helpful person, I think Canon will love to have you :)

Why don't they make the same models that apply to world widely? on the
region, power supply and TV color systems that different is enough to
cope. Marketting, isn't it?
 
Z

zakezuke

Why don't they make the same models that apply to world widely? on the
region, power supply and TV color systems that different is enough to
cope. Marketting, isn't it?

Your talking to a fan of 60hz and 110V, 240v 50hz to me adds an
annoying noise on stereos where the lower volts seems to add less of a
buzz, and 50hz I find too flicky, though PAL is a much better system
than "Never Twice the Same Color". Now digital clocks are standard and
no longer depend on wall power as a timer, this also becomes moot.

TV I think was in part due to difference in power systems. The French
Secam on the other hand was popular in old Communist block contries as
it was totally incompatable with anything else. There was a push when
the UK was switching to colour to use NTSC, or at least a similar
system that would permit the old VHF TVs being used while upgrading to
color, or some such. I forget the exact details but NTSC respectfuly
sucked. While spiffy in the fact that you could use TVs older than
dirt, these older TVs didn't have the lead to filter shield from
x-rays.

But as to why... I don't have the historic info. It wasn't so big a
deal in the 20th century as for example Australia and USA are so far a
part that no bugger could pickup station so compatability wasn't
needed. But in this age of travel such a thing would be nice, esp
since we are reworking TV to HDTV digital it would have been a good
idea to standardize our nations, but fortunatly most DVD players can
output in terms of PAL or NTSC, and many TVs can switch resolutions.
As TV becomes obsolete in favor of podcasting and such, these standards
become 100% moot.

But as for the Canon issue... I think it's an issue with Phillips's
patent on CDs. While you own the same physical printer as a North
American would CD printing was simply not offered. Canon I believe
simply refuses to pay the license fee required to release the product
in the USA. It's not a big deal with the pixma series as they have all
the same parts as non-North American models except the tray. The
i860-i990 required that front part to permit inserting the tray.

It's the same deal with "labelflash", a system of burning images on
discs developed by Fuji and Yamaha IIRC. In all respects superior to
HP's lightscribe but is not something that will be seen in America due
to patent issues. So it will be disabled in software, but the hardware
will remain the same.

But if you could manage to scan yours, as in find a friend who has one
that would be ultra handy. While I know it's shape and relative
relfector positions I lack accurate measurements. For example tray
type B for the early PIXMA series there are spiffy templates one can
print off an image of the tray for testing.
 
A

AJ

But if you could manage to scan yours, as in find a friend who has one
that would be ultra handy. While I know it's shape and relative
relfector positions I lack accurate measurements.

Do you mean scanning exact size of the tray? it will be quite a big
picture though, it will be approx 1ft long and the same width as
Pixma's tray. I will try to find a scanner, and do that, is GIF format
OK? as I assume that it is the smallest picture file.
 
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zakezuke

Do you mean scanning exact size of the tray? it will be quite a big
picture though, it will be approx 1ft long and the same width as
Pixma's tray. I will try to find a scanner, and do that, is GIF format
OK? as I assume that it is the smallest picture file.

If you were to scan at let's say for example 75dpi... the image would
be screenish size and provide the means for me to create a reasonably
accurate template. 75dpi is pretty dang low but i'm not looking for
quality... 1/75th of an inch is pretty dang good. Gif would be fine,
but i'm not picky.

Taking the time would be greatly appricated as the only data on the
subject for us yanks is for the most part based on the german page, and
we have NO such scan as of present.
 

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