Canon i865 text

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Anne

Sorry if this glaringly obvious but I have just acquired a Canon i865.
This has a seperate black cartridge the BCI 3eBK for text printing as
opposed to the smaller black cartridge used in colour printing. My question
is should I always select greyscale in order to use this cartridge?
Thanks
Anne
 
C

Chris Stumpf

Sorry if this glaringly obvious but I have just acquired a Canon i865.
This has a seperate black cartridge the BCI 3eBK for text printing as
opposed to the smaller black cartridge used in colour printing. My question
is should I always select greyscale in order to use this cartridge?
Thanks
Anne


No, the ink type is controlled by the paper type. As long as you use the
"plain paper" setting, it will use the large black cartridge for printing
text and stuff that is black.
 
B

Burtron

Anne said:
Sorry if this glaringly obvious but I have just acquired a Canon i865.
This has a seperate black cartridge the BCI 3eBK for text printing as
opposed to the smaller black cartridge used in colour printing. My question
is should I always select greyscale in order to use this cartridge?
Thanks
Anne

Anne-
I just bought an i860, and even though I can't find it in manual how
to do it - this is how i think it knows: When you go into Easy-Photo,
which I'm sure you also have, and designate the type paper you are
going to use - And in this case it would be photo paper like Photo
Paper Plus, or any of those that you purchase (As opposed to regular
inkjet paper for text). When you do this, it tells the printer which
of the two black inks to use. Another issue that I want to to tell you
about is this: If you are having trouble getting your photo into
Easy-Photo, after you have repaired it in something like Photoshop
Elements - You need to change the format (file extension) of the photo
- And in my case, I have to "Save as" after it has already been
"Saved" - And select in the dropdown list "JPEG" format. So, I change
mine from PSD, which PhotoShop uses to recognize their files, to JPEG
- So that Canon's Easy-Photo will accept it. Hope this helps. Les
 
B

Bill

Chris said:
No, the ink type is controlled by the paper type. As long as you use the
"plain paper" setting, it will use the large black cartridge for printing
text and stuff that is black.

But only if the source document is 0-0-0 colour, which is true black
according to colour scales. If the document has any amount of colour
anywhere in the document, then the black cartridge is not used, and
black is derived from mixing the three colours.

If you want to ensure that only black is used, say for a basic text
document, then set the print output to grayscale.

Note - you can selectively choose grayscale mode (on and off) when you
print a document from the program you're using (like Word). The choice
will remain at that setting for the duration of the session. Once you
close the program, the settings return to the printer driver settings.
 
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Hughy

But only if the source document is 0-0-0 colour, which is true black
according to colour scales. If the document has any amount of colour
anywhere in the document, then the black cartridge is not used, and
black is derived from mixing the three colours.

I'm thinking about buying an i865, but it looks like I need to research a
bit more!

I thought this was a 5 colour printer, with CMY plus two blacks - with
both black tanks sitting inside the printer, ready to go.

If so (and I'm now in doubt), then why wouldn't the printer just switch
from pigment black tank to the dye based black tank rather than mix CMY?

Regards and TIA,
Hughy.
 
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Chris Stumpf

I thought this was a 5 colour printer, with CMY plus two blacks - with
both black tanks sitting inside the printer, ready to go.
You are correct, all cartridges reside in the printer at the same time.
 
H

Hughy

Chris Stumpf said:
You are correct, all cartridges reside in the printer at the same time.


Thanks Chris,

If that's the case, why would the printer ever want to mix CMY as the
other poster suggested? The photo black tank should make CMY mixing
redundant, shouldn't it (and give economies in ink use, I hope)?

By the way, does anyone know whether you can purchase new head
assemblies(and their cost) for the i865? How many heads are there - does
it use just one head for all 5 colours (preferable, I think)?

Regards and TIA,

Hughy.
 
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Anne

Thanks to all of you for your help, it all makes sense when you know the
whys and wherefores
The i865 seems a great little printer. Now I just have to decide whether
to go straight for Jet Tec compatible cartridges or grit my teeth for the
first year and buy Canon.
Anne
 
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MC

U¿ytkownik "Hughy said:
If that's the case, why would the printer ever want to mix CMY as the
other poster suggested? The photo black tank should make CMY mixing
redundant, shouldn't it (and give economies in ink use, I hope)?

Exactly. With respect to improvement of economy and quality.
By the way, does anyone know whether you can purchase new head
assemblies(and their cost) for the i865? How many heads are there - does
it use just one head for all 5 colours (preferable, I think)?
Yes, there is only one complex head.
 
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Chris Stumpf

If that's the case, why would the printer ever want to mix CMY as the
other poster suggested? The photo black tank should make CMY mixing
redundant, shouldn't it (and give economies in ink use, I hope)?
Well, like mentioned already, shades of grey would qualify for mixing of CMY.
By the way, does anyone know whether you can purchase new head
assemblies(and their cost) for the i865? How many heads are there - does
it use just one head for all 5 colours (preferable, I think)?
Heads are not available for purchase. Canon will replace them under warranty
for free. You can buy an extended warranty for under $50 if you are worried.
I've had my i850 since august of last year and it sometimes sits idle for a
few weeks at a time. I've printed a ream of 8.5"x11" paper and about 30-40
4x6 photos and a few 8.5x11 photos and I'm still on the orginal cartridges.
I have a spare black that I bought because it was on sale. The two lowest
carts are the black and the magenta. If I print any photos, I'll have to
pick up another magenta, but I figure I'm good for another 15-20 pics on that
one. Oh yeah, there's only one print head. It's part of the carrier that
holds the ink tanks.
 
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Hughy

Heads are not available for purchase. Canon will replace them under warranty
for free. You can buy an extended warranty for under $50 if you are worried.
I've had my i850 since august of last year and it sometimes sits idle for a
few weeks at a time. I've printed a ream of 8.5"x11" paper and about 30-40
4x6 photos and a few 8.5x11 photos and I'm still on the orginal cartridges.
I have a spare black that I bought because it was on sale. The two lowest
carts are the black and the magenta. If I print any photos, I'll have to
pick up another magenta, but I figure I'm good for another 15-20 pics on that
one. Oh yeah, there's only one print head. It's part of the carrier that
holds the ink tanks.

Thanks.

I'm pretty much decided to go ahead with buying the i865. Like you, my
printer often sits idle for several weeks at a time. Non user
replaceable heads are a mixed blessing I suppose.

All that's kept my BJC-6200 alive until now is three head replacements
(costing $90 for each of the two separate heads). I've spent $540 in
replacement heads in two years. Looking back on it now, I'd nearly have
been better off chucking the 6200 and buying a new printer.

Each time I've had to replace the heads, it's been due to several nozzles
failing to operate. I refill my tanks with non genuine ink - something
which might make warranty pretty doubtful.

I'm thinking that the only way to go, is to do a nozzle check *every*
day - whether the printer is used or not. Maybe by doing this, you'd
pick up on a problem nozzle almost straight away.

I suspect our failed 6200 nozzles were caused by continuing to print
stuff after the nozzles blocked (because we didn't notice the blockage).
By the time the cleaning cycles commenced, the blocked nozzles had
probably been out of action for weeks.

Regards,
Hughy.
 
A

Apoo

I should go for the Canon ink's to be on the safe side and they last for
such a long time, you would not be saving and may have problems as I have
done with my old printers..
I have had my Canon i865 for ages and it's the best colour Printer Ive ever
had or seen for the price...
 

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