Canon i860: Photo Paper

[Sylvain]

I have read the following article:

http://www6.tomshardware.com/consumer/20031124/printer_heavyweights-12.html

but did not see references to all the paper brands that we find here in the
Ottawa, Canada area.

Would someone have good (or bad) experience with Kodak photo paper that can
be found at Costco these days? How about the
OfficeDepot photo paper?

Thanks.

S.

 

[Sal Monella]

I have read the following article:

http://www6.tomshardware.com/consumer/20031124/printer_heavyweights-12.html

but did not see references to all the paper brands that we find here in the
Ottawa, Canada area.

Would someone have good (or bad) experience with Kodak photo paper that can
be found at Costco these days? How about the
OfficeDepot photo paper?

Thanks.

S.

I don't know about the Kodak paper but I've had excellent results with
Office Depot photo paper in the i860.

 

[Lucas Tam]

Would someone have good (or bad) experience with Kodak photo paper
that can be found at Costco these days? How about the
OfficeDepot photo paper?

I just bought 5 packs of Staples.ca (Business Depot) Premium Photo Paper
(4x6, 100 sheets) for 10.95 a package after a 50.00 coupon. Regular price
is 29.95.

You may want to check redflagdeals.com to see if they have any valid
Staples.ca coupons.

The Staples paper is only 8mm, but seems to be OK quality. I will be doing
some test prints on Friday and will report back about the quality.

 

[xNokia3390x]

Would someone have good (or bad) experience with Kodak photo paper that can
be found at Costco these days? How about the
OfficeDepot photo paper?

The Kodak paper at Costco has an odor, even days after you've printed a
photo - it also occurs with my HP printers. I stick with HP paper for my HP
printers, and Canon paper for my Canon i560. I only print 4x6's on the
Canon, and that paper is cheap on Amazon.com. I print anything larger on my
HP's. I'm not sure what to recommend if you're looking to print larger
pictures, as the Canon paper is quite expensive in larger sizes.

 

[Sherwin Dubren]

The salesman who just sold me an Epson RX500 told me that Epson printers
use a process that penetrates the paper with their ink. He recommended
either Epson or Canon paper. He also said that H.P. paper wont work
because H.P. uses a process where the printing is done on the surface of
the paper, and so is not compatible with Epson printers.

Take it for what it's worth. This is not entirely my direct experience,
although I just tried some Canon Matte Photo Paper, and it worked fine
for photos.

 

[Lucas Tam]

The salesman who just sold me an Epson RX500 told me that Epson printers
use a process that penetrates the paper with their ink.

It's usually not desirable to have ink penetrate the paper as this causes
bleeding and dullness in the print. Epson has actually designed some of
their Pigment based inks to sit on the surface of the paper to increase
sharpness and saturation.

http://www.epson.co.jp/e/newsroom/tech_news/tnl0304c.pdf

 

[Bill]

but did not see references to all the paper brands that we find here in the
Ottawa, Canada area.

Would someone have good (or bad) experience with Kodak photo paper that can
be found at Costco these days? How about the
OfficeDepot photo paper?

Get the Office Depot Premium photo paper. It prints about as good as
Canon, it's waterproof, and is essentially lightfast if not exposed to
direct sunlight.

If you intend to print a lot of photos, you should also consider
refilling your ink tanks with quality bulk ink. I refill using
AtlanticInkjet supplies. It matches very well with Canon, and works
beautifully on Office Depot photo paper.

I print 4 photos on an 8.5x11 sheet and cut them afterwards. The result
is a slightly smaller photo, but costs are dramatically reduced.

NOTE - avoid using "compatible" cartridges as the ink formulation is not
the same and quality is not as good.

 

[Rick]

Sylvain;

I also own a Canon i860, and have been considering purchasing the
Kodak paper at Costco.

I tried a sheet of Kodak paper on my last printer ( an Epson 820) and
the ink just spread all over the surface and failed to dry. As a
result I purchased the Epson photo paper at Costco $30/100 sheets and
it worked great on the Epson printer.

Since I had 100's of sheets left when I go my i860, I continued using
it with great results. At Costco the price for the Kodak paper is
slightly cheaper than the Epson paper, so I will be interested in the
future responses to your question. Occasionally Costo has a printer
representative giving demonstrations. Someone suggested that I ask him
for a paper sample.

I actually take the 8.5x11 sheets of paper and precut them into 3-4x6
sheets. This works great in the Canon's 4x6 paper tray. The cost works
out to be 10 cents a photo (CDN).

On a side note, I print most of my photos on the inexpensive Epson
paper, but occasionally I have printed special photos on the Epson
Premium Photo paper (EPPP) . Those photos looked great on the glossier
and thicker paper, but they fade very much faster when posted without
any protection on a bulletin board. My theory is that the extra
smoothness of the paper does not absorb and hold the ink as well.

Rick

I have read the following article:

http://www6.tomshardware.com/consumer/20031124/printer_heavyweights-12.html

but did not see references to all the paper brands that we find here in the
Ottawa, Canada area.

Would someone have good (or bad) experience with Kodak photo paper that can
be found at Costco these days? How about the
OfficeDepot photo paper?

Thanks.

S.

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[PJx]

The Kodak paper at Costco has an odor, even days after you've printed a
photo - it also occurs with my HP printers. I stick with HP paper for my HP
printers, and Canon paper for my Canon i560. I only print 4x6's on the
Canon, and that paper is cheap on Amazon.com. I print anything larger on my
HP's. I'm not sure what to recommend if you're looking to print larger
pictures, as the Canon paper is quite expensive in larger sizes.

No, it is not cheap. 5 cents per 4x6 is cheap.
PJ

 

[Wolf Kirchmeir]

On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 06:49:23 GMT, Sherwin Dubren wrote:

=>The salesman who just sold me an Epson RX500 told me that Epson printers
=>use a process that penetrates the paper with their ink. He recommended
=>either Epson or Canon paper. He also said that H.P. paper wont work
=>because H.P. uses a process where the printing is done on the surface of
=>the paper, and so is not compatible with Epson printers.

I've used both Kodak and Epson photo-paper in my HP660C -
no problems with ink spreading etc. Sofar, no problems with
ink fading either, but less than 2 or 3 years is too early
to tell.

 

[Tom]

Get the Office Depot Premium photo paper. It prints about as good as
Canon, it's waterproof, and is essentially lightfast if not exposed to
direct sunlight.

Sorry, but I have found this to not be the case.

Office Depot Premium Glossy will, indeed, produce a beautiful print. Even
rivals the top of the line Canon paper.

But "light fast" it ain't. Even in NO sunlight situations.

Original Canon inks will *slightly* increase the longevity of prints on this
paper, but they WILL fade. I have not tried Atlantic ink, which you say is
what you are using, but I would be surprised if it holds up better than
original Canon dyes.

Tom

 

[Ray R]

Sylvain;

I actually take the 8.5x11 sheets of paper and precut them into 3-4x6
sheets. This works great in the Canon's 4x6 paper tray. The cost works
out to be 10 cents a photo (CDN).

You may consider cutting the 8.5x11 sheets of paper into 2-4x6 and
1-5x7 to give a variety of paper sizes.

 

[Ray R]

Sorry, but I have found this to not be the case.

Office Depot Premium Glossy will, indeed, produce a beautiful print. Even
rivals the top of the line Canon paper.

But "light fast" it ain't. Even in NO sunlight situations.

I have done some testing, and I agree. The Epson Premium Glossy is most
light fast followed by Canon with Office Depot being the worst. This was
done in bright Las Vegas sun on a Canon i850. Does anyone know how
Epson Premium Glossy compares with Epson Glossy as regards to light
fastness?

Costco has 120 sheets of Epson Glossy for $20. While the regular Glossy
does not look as good as the Premium it cost is $.17 as compared to $.38
for the Premium.

 

[Guest]

The Costco Kodak paper is not good for Canon ink. The ink never dries
-- photos will stick together and will smear with running water. It is
marked Kodak Premium Picture Paper, media type PPP-3-A, cat 808-8437.
59 lb, 8 mil, High Gloss.

Costco (here) has Epson Glossy Photo Paper S041141-120 (120 sheets)
which is excellent for Canon ink. It prints instant dry, won't smear
under running water, and requires no color correction (for me) with my
current monitor calibration. It is marked 52 lb., 9.4 mil, 96%
Opacity, 99 ISO Brightness. Costs $19.95 for 120 sheets.

 

[PJx]

We need to see the posted photos of your research.
Please print out a fresh copy and then post the two together.
PJ

 

[xNokia3390x]

No, it is not cheap. 5 cents per 4x6 is cheap.

I'd like quality as well. I'm fine paying for it.

 

[Burt]

On my epson stylus 900 printer - the costco epson glossy paper with epson
ink produces excellent results. The pictures are dry almost instantly, have
good depth of color, and appear to hold up well under normal viewing
conditions. framed and under glass I don't see the need for more expensive
paper. Mounted for viewing without glass I would probably go for a matte
finish or smoother gloss finish with more expensive paper. My only disaster
occurred when I saw a deal on Kodak ultra matte photo paper and tried it in
the epson printer with epson ink. The ink appeared to sit on top of the
paper in areas of intense color and smeared easily. Some areas appeared to
stay vulnerable to smearing for a very long time. I gave the four packs of
paper away.

I find that it is faster to use one size of paper and not have to redo the
printer or page setup, so I cut the paper in half and do 4 by 6 or 5 by 7
prints. My software of choice is photoshop elements 2 which will group
pictures and print four 4 by 5 prints on the same page, but my wife likes 4
by 6 prints for her albums. In addition, the sofware takes some time to do
the grouped picture setup and I can print four pictures separately much
faster than doing the setup for four pictures on one page. Since the costco
epson paper is so cheap - $20 for 120 sheets - I would rather waste a little
paper than waste the time to fiddle with the page setup in my software and
the printer. I also have other software that will group pictures for
printing much faster than PSE2, but I would rather stay in one software
package and speed through a printing session. For cropping and minor
tweaking I can bring up a picture, tweak it, send it to the printer (in
buffer), save it to a new copy, and move on to the next one before the
printer is finished with the first. For production printing of well exposed
pictures I am often ahead of the printer with several pictures in the buffer
as I am doing minor corrections. Color printing is such a tedious process
that time is as much a factor as paper cost, providing the paper is as cheap
as the costo epson glossy photo paper.

 

[Lucas Tam]

The Staples paper is only 8mm, but seems to be OK quality. I will be
doing some test prints on Friday and will report back about the
quality.

Just did a test print on the staples paper - it looks gorgeous. Just as
good as Canon Photo Paper Pro, but only thinner.

Anyhow, for 29.99 for a pack of 100, it's well worth it : )

 

[Sylvain]

Thanks to all who replied to the original post.

I am getting much more feedback than I hoped for and it is much appreciated.

S.C.

 

[Ron Baird]

Hi Burt,

I would like to suggest you try One Touch as noted in other posts. The
program will improve the results you get on Kodak paper. The quality of the
paper is unsurpassed and with the One Touch and EasyShare option, you will
be impressed

http://www.kodak.com/go/onetouch

Kodak obtains every new printer that comes out on the market, i.e. Epson,
HP, Canon, etc. They are tested for a few months and then settings provided
on our website, as well as in the EasyShare and One Touch features. The
results are excellent.

It is my guess that the reason the ink pools on some papers is the result of
the settings. With Kodak paper, you likely do not need as much ink after
adjusting your settings. It is worth a try, if you have any Kodak paper
remaining, be sure you choose that type of paper in the one touch option and
the results will be much better.

Ron Baird
Eastman Kodak Company