Cannot see WinXP computer in workgroup

[Guest]

I have just configured two laptops to be on our network workgroup, HOUSE
(network name changed to protect the innocent). Both laptops are Sony Vaios,
one running Windows Vista Basic Business, and the other (this one) running
Vista Home. The one desktop in the house belongs to my father, and runs Win
XP, and is going to stay that way - the man's 84 years old, and he's not
about to change his ways. Anyway, I had no trouble setting up the Vista
Business laptop to see the network and the workgroup HOUSE. But that one
belongs to his girlfriend (who is 5 years my junior...but I digress).
Naturally, I would like my OWN laptop to also see the entire workgroup as
well. But try as I might, I cannot get it to see the Win XP desktop. It can
get on the Internet just fine, but it cannot see the WinXP machine for file
and printer sharing purposes.

Interestingly, when I type \\STUXP at the RUN prompt, I DO see the shared
folders and the printer on my dad's desktop. But I cannot get it to show up
in the View Other Computers In The Workgroup folder.

Please help.

 

[Robert L [MVP - Networking]]

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I have just configured two laptops to be on our network workgroup, HOUSE
(network name changed to protect the innocent). Both laptops are Sony Vaios,
one running Windows Vista Basic Business, and the other (this one) running
Vista Home. The one desktop in the house belongs to my father, and runs Win
XP, and is going to stay that way - the man's 84 years old, and he's not
about to change his ways. Anyway, I had no trouble setting up the Vista
Business laptop to see the network and the workgroup HOUSE. But that one
belongs to his girlfriend (who is 5 years my junior...but I digress).
Naturally, I would like my OWN laptop to also see the entire workgroup as
well. But try as I might, I cannot get it to see the Win XP desktop. It can
get on the Internet just fine, but it cannot see the WinXP machine for file
and printer sharing purposes.

Interestingly, when I type \\STUXP at the RUN prompt, I DO see the shared
folders and the printer on my dad's desktop. But I cannot get it to show up
in the View Other Computers In The Workgroup folder.

Please help.

 

[Chuck [MVP]]

I have just configured two laptops to be on our network workgroup, HOUSE
(network name changed to protect the innocent). Both laptops are Sony Vaios,
one running Windows Vista Basic Business, and the other (this one) running
Vista Home. The one desktop in the house belongs to my father, and runs Win
XP, and is going to stay that way - the man's 84 years old, and he's not
about to change his ways. Anyway, I had no trouble setting up the Vista
Business laptop to see the network and the workgroup HOUSE. But that one
belongs to his girlfriend (who is 5 years my junior...but I digress).
Naturally, I would like my OWN laptop to also see the entire workgroup as
well. But try as I might, I cannot get it to see the Win XP desktop. It can
get on the Internet just fine, but it cannot see the WinXP machine for file
and printer sharing purposes.

Interestingly, when I type \\STUXP at the RUN prompt, I DO see the shared
folders and the printer on my dad's desktop. But I cannot get it to show up
in the View Other Computers In The Workgroup folder.

Please help.

This will generally be a personal firewall or NetBT issue.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html

You might look at logs from "browstat status" and "ipconfig /all", from each
computer, and diagnose the problem. Read this article, and linked articles, and
follow instructions precisely (download browstat!):
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.

 

[Guest]

Well, you won't believe it, but this problem was resolved by turning ON a
firewall. The new Vista Home laptop had Norton running with a firewall, and
Windows Firewall turned off. I turned off the Norton Firewall, so that I had
NO firewalls running, and nothing happened. Then I turned ON the Windows
Firewall, making sure the settings would allow discovery and file and printer
sharing, and voila! The XP computer became visible.

I do not pretend to understand this (I haven't actually understood operating
systems since DOS 6.0) but I won't argue with it.

OK, maybe...could it have anything to do with "browsing", an old NT term I
remember? I seem to recall it sometimes taking up to 15 minutes to show a
newly-turned-on computer in the network map?

In any case, thanks for everyone's help.

==JJS==

I have just configured two laptops to be on our network workgroup, HOUSE
(network name changed to protect the innocent). Both laptops are Sony Vaios,
one running Windows Vista Basic Business, and the other (this one) running
Vista Home. The one desktop in the house belongs to my father, and runs Win
XP, and is going to stay that way - the man's 84 years old, and he's not
about to change his ways. Anyway, I had no trouble setting up the Vista
Business laptop to see the network and the workgroup HOUSE. But that one
belongs to his girlfriend (who is 5 years my junior...but I digress).
Naturally, I would like my OWN laptop to also see the entire workgroup as
well. But try as I might, I cannot get it to see the Win XP desktop. It can
get on the Internet just fine, but it cannot see the WinXP machine for file
and printer sharing purposes.

Interestingly, when I type \\STUXP at the RUN prompt, I DO see the shared
folders and the printer on my dad's desktop. But I cannot get it to show up
in the View Other Computers In The Workgroup folder.

Please help.

This will generally be a personal firewall or NetBT issue.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html

You might look at logs from "browstat status" and "ipconfig /all", from each
computer, and diagnose the problem. Read this article, and linked articles, and
follow instructions precisely (download browstat!):
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.

 

[...winston]

Windows Firewall by default allows outbound connections. Norton, your prior personal firewall, does not provide that same global approach.
Norton usually requires an exception rule(s) to allow communication to the networked XP unit(s)
Turning off the Norton Firewall may not free up outbound to other XP units on the network.

Chuck's links included a link to this handy explanation of personal firewall issues/requirements.
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html

....winston
MS-MVP WLM

: Well, you won't believe it, but this problem was resolved by turning ON a
: firewall. The new Vista Home laptop had Norton running with a firewall, and
: Windows Firewall turned off. I turned off the Norton Firewall, so that I had
: NO firewalls running, and nothing happened. Then I turned ON the Windows
: Firewall, making sure the settings would allow discovery and file and printer
: sharing, and voila! The XP computer became visible.
:
: I do not pretend to understand this (I haven't actually understood operating
: systems since DOS 6.0) but I won't argue with it.
:
: OK, maybe...could it have anything to do with "browsing", an old NT term I
: remember? I seem to recall it sometimes taking up to 15 minutes to show a
: newly-turned-on computer in the network map?
:
: In any case, thanks for everyone's help.
:
: ==JJS==
:
: "Chuck [MVP]" wrote:
:
: > On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:58:03 -0700, Jim Speiser
: >
: > >I have just configured two laptops to be on our network workgroup, HOUSE
: > >(network name changed to protect the innocent). Both laptops are Sony Vaios,
: > >one running Windows Vista Basic Business, and the other (this one) running
: > >Vista Home. The one desktop in the house belongs to my father, and runs Win
: > >XP, and is going to stay that way - the man's 84 years old, and he's not
: > >about to change his ways. Anyway, I had no trouble setting up the Vista
: > >Business laptop to see the network and the workgroup HOUSE. But that one
: > >belongs to his girlfriend (who is 5 years my junior...but I digress).
: > >Naturally, I would like my OWN laptop to also see the entire workgroup as
: > >well. But try as I might, I cannot get it to see the Win XP desktop. It can
: > >get on the Internet just fine, but it cannot see the WinXP machine for file
: > >and printer sharing purposes.
: > >
: > >Interestingly, when I type \\STUXP at the RUN prompt, I DO see the shared
: > >folders and the printer on my dad's desktop. But I cannot get it to show up
: > >in the View Other Computers In The Workgroup folder.
: > >
: > >Please help.
: >
: > This will generally be a personal firewall or NetBT issue.
: > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html>
: > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html
: >
: > You might look at logs from "browstat status" and "ipconfig /all", from each
: > computer, and diagnose the problem. Read this article, and linked articles, and
: > follow instructions precisely (download browstat!):
: > <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>
: > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp
: >
: > --
: > Cheers,
: > Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking]
: > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
: > Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
: > My email is AT DOT
: > actual address pchuck mvps org.
: >